Madden NFL 18 on the Frostbite Engine: Reactions

[Birdman18]

Madden NFL 18 on the Frostbite Engine: Reactions

From what I've been told and heard from friends within EA, is that they have been building the game for a good while now and that it's a separate group within EA who's doing the coding. Apparently work for M18 had been going side by side M16 and M17


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[timhere1970]

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From what I've been told and heard from friends within EA, is that they have been building the game for a good while now and that it's a separate group within EA who's doing the coding. Apparently work for M18 had been going side by side M16 and M17


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This is really good to here. It does mean that some of the things we like about the last couple of years may not be in the game though. The possibilities of a ground up build are limitless though.

[Birdman18]

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This is really good to here. It does mean that some of the things we like about the last couple of years may not be in the game though. The possibilities of a ground up build are limitless though.

Now I don't know details on what will or won't be in the game and all of that. All I've been told is that there are two teams who have been working closely together trying to get the games done. And I emphasize that this isn't two diff development groups from what I've been told. These guys all work together in the same studio and they did it this way as to not pull too much from the current version of the game but also to stay on their timeline for M18.


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[timhere1970]

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Now I don't know details on what will or won't be in the game and all of that. All I've been told is that there are two teams who have been working closely together trying to get the games done. And I emphasize that this isn't two diff development groups from what I've been told. These guys all work together in the same studio and they did it this way as to not pull too much from the current version of the game but also to stay on their timeline for M18.


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Correct but at some point the new game had to diverge from any new code that was put into the game we have now. That may have been as far back as 15. Doesn't mean they didn't write code to do the same thing in the new game but doesn't mean they did. When they write a patch for 17 that will not go into the new game. I am not a code expert but that is how I see it. I am sure others know better than me.

[dcal]

Bring it back to PC...that is all I want. Frostbite is used in multiple PC games so perhaps they will have a PC version of Madden 18. After buying Madden 15 & 16 (PS4)and only playing them for two weeks each I did not buy and have not played 17. Will have to check out 18 out of curiosity for the new engine.

[eagskerfan]

There should not be any steps backwards for this game really ever again. If it's not ready, Don't put it out. Release a roster update the next year. If it's ready, great. EA gets enough free passes with next gen systems every time when they strip out the features to a plain game, then re-release those old features and pretend that they are innovative.

[shavane]

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I hope it gives the game a more organic, natural looking running animations.

Amen I enjoy madden but.I don't love it like 2k. Nothing feels natural, or organic, actual footplants, and control. All these years later and it still feels like running on skates.

[jfsolo]

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From what I've been told and heard from friends within EA, is that they have been building the game for a good while now and that it's a separate group within EA who's doing the coding. Apparently work for M18 had been going side by side M16 and M17


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Now I don't know details on what will or won't be in the game and all of that. All I've been told is that there are two teams who have been working closely together trying to get the games done. And I emphasize that this isn't two diff development groups from what I've been told. These guys all work together in the same studio and they did it this way as to not pull too much from the current version of the game but also to stay on their timeline for M18.


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It makes sense of course that they have been working on this for a couple of years now. I think they are trying to be done with the type of big setbacks that have happened in the past too many times with the implementation of new software/hardware.

[binga30]

Why should we as consumers have to demo the game on the new Frostbite engine for Madden 18? This is not how things work. Madden team should have been working on Frostbite for 2 years now, so that when it comes time to release the game it is flawless. Worst thing is when in for Madden 19, the team will come out and blatantly acknowledge how **** the previous version was.

[Birdman18]

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It makes sense of course that they have been working on this for a couple of years now. I think they are trying to be done with the type of big setbacks that have happened in the past too many times with the implementation of new software/hardware.

Spot on


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[fballturkey]

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Why should we as consumers have to demo the game on the new Frostbite engine for Madden 18? This is not how things work. Madden team should have been working on Frostbite for 2 years now, so that when it comes time to release the game it is flawless. Worst thing is when in for Madden 19, the team will come out and blatantly acknowledge how **** the previous version was.

That's exactly what's been happening from what I've read in the forums; they've had people working on the Frostbite version since before 17 even came out.

[PVarck31]

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I can vouch for Birdman. If he says they've been working on this for 2 years then it's true.

And another misconception I think some people have is that this is a complete rebuild. I am 99.9% sure that is not the case. I think what we will see will still look like Madden and play like Madden. They will just have more freedom in this engine to enhance parts of the game that they really couldn't address to the extent they wanted to with Ignite.

[jfsolo]

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I can vouch for Birdman. If he says they've been working on this for 2 years then it's true.

And another misconception I think some people have is that this is a complete rebuild. I am 99.9% sure that is not the case. I think what we will see will still look like Madden and play like Madden. They will just have more freedom in this engine to enhance parts of the game that they really couldn't address to the extent they wanted to with Ignite.

Yep. It can't be helped because a lot of people don't do their homework when it comes to understanding what this kind of switch actually entails, but I'm sure that there will be a lot of people cursing EA and the dev team out when Madden 18 is at its core, for good and bad, still a Madden game.

At least with a new engine, they won't be able to use the "Roster Update" insult, although some probably still will.

[PVarck31]

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Yep. It can't be helped because a lot of people don't do their homework when it comes to understanding what this kind of switch actually entails, but I'm sure that there will be a lot of people cursing EA and the dev team out when Madden 18 is at its core, for good and bad, still a Madden game.

At least with a new engine, they won't be able to use the "Roster Update" insult, although some probably still will.

I don't claim to know much about Frostbite, but from what I gather it is heavily geared to environmental tech. I can see revamped weather, maybe changing conditions throughout the game, progressive lighting, better looking colors ie uniforms, better grass tech, and maybe cloth physics.

As far as actual gameplay such as movement and AI I'm not sure what the benefits can be. Maybe its easier to program for in that regard allowing for more fluid animations and player interaction.

The one thing I do know for sure is this is a GOOD thing, and Madden fans, make that football fans, should be excited.

[SageInfinite]

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I don't claim to know much about Frostbite, but from what I gather it is heavily geared to environmental tech. I can see revamped weather, maybe changing conditions throughout the game, progressive lighting, better looking colors ie uniforms, better grass tech, and maybe cloth physics.

Add in some better, more realistic player models, and I'd be cool with that for the first year. Next year, getting rid of all the goofy animations would be a must. Hopefully some of that can be tackled this year, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

So looking forward to seeing what frostbite can do for football....