NBA 2K17 Dynamic Commentary Trailer

[El_Poopador]

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The thing about Harlan I can't understand is that he commentates 2K a lot differently. There's not a lot of that excitement and tension that you hear in real life, everything is more relaxed and the end of the games aren't near as tense.

I really thought I was the only one who noticed how different he sounds in 2k compared to a live broadcast lol.

[GuwopGeezus]

The thing about Harlan I can't understand is that he commentates 2K a lot differently. There's not a lot of that excitement and tension that you hear in real life, everything is more relaxed and the end of the games aren't near as tense.

Hard to replicate the energy of sitting courtside

[KGDunks]

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I really thought I was the only one who noticed how different he sounds in 2k compared to a live broadcast lol.

None of his classic calls seem to be in from what I remember.

"right between the eyes", something about a dagger, no regard for human life etc.

But yeah there's a clear difference. He comes up with a lot more clever lines and emotional filled calls in real life.

Not the same in 2K.

[The 24th Letter]

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Nothing wrong with shooting for the stars like KGD is....who knows, 2k keeps raising the bar, maybe its a possibility one day...as long as we understand its quite a tall task.

As far as Madden....hard to compare football to basketball for one, because they dont talk off topic during action....so I dont know if you can say they have mastered the art of transisioning....because they dont have to. Their conversation goes on during the huddle.

What I do praise Madden for is their situational awareness...its whats been missing in football games for a looooong time..

[DamnYanks2]

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Nobody can say 2K doesn't care. These are things I've been wanting for ever in a sports game. They've been adding to the commentary team bit by bit, and it looks like they blew it all out this year, awesome stuff. That ending lol

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[El_Poopador]

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Nothing wrong with shooting for the stars like KGD is....who knows, 2k keeps raising the bar, maybe its a possibility one day...as long as we understand its quite a tall task.

As far as Madden....hard to compare football to basketball for one, because they dont talk off topic during action....so I dont know if you can say they have mastered the art of transisioning....because they dont have to. Their conversation goes on during the huddle.

What I do praise Madden for is their situational awareness...its whats been missing in football games for a looooong time..

This is exactly why I love the commentary in this year's Madden. When they are calling the game, it sounds like they are watching it. I would love to get that feeling when playing NBA 2k. The situational awareness is exactly what I would love to see improved in 2k. I could not think of those words for the life of me before lol.

[KGDunks]

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Hard to replicate the energy of sitting courtside

Definitely, but you could easily have him in the studio commentating a few close games like he does in real life. That and the crowd in the last two minutes make for some pretty dull endings even when something amazing happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHR5G0XLK3g

Look at how terrible the commentary is in that video.

There's basically no recognition of the situation until the Denver guy hits the shot. That all goes back to 2K always wanting the commentates to mention something, even when some moments simply don't call for it and don't do it in real life.

Harlan typically calls everything in the last few minutes of the game.
"shot clock at 4....LeBron.....BIG TIME TRIPLE!"

That kind of thing on all the shots, and then he'll get all excited on the last play of a game and say something like

"Iguodalaaaaaaa, gooodddddddd, he got ittt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y0T6k2k90w

I understand player specific would be near impossible, unless you had him chained to a chair for weeks on end, but surely there's a way we can get more of that excitement in the game.



and even then Harlan says something for a brief second before Greg Anthony just commentates on how he's played like it's the middle of the game.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Situational Awareness is the one thing 2K doesn't have any issues with.

Can it be improved, along with many aspects of the game? Sure. But when it comes to awareness, that's the one thing where it hasn't struggled in that regard.

Madden has been out for years and they just now are starting to get that down pat.

[KGDunks]

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Situational Awareness is the one thing 2K doesn't have any issues with.

Can it be improved, along with many aspects of the game? Sure. But when it comes to awareness, that's the one thing where it hasn't struggled in that regard.

Madden has been out for years and they just now are starting to get that down pat.

Really? I've definitely noticed when things happen to fast for the commentators and they talk about something that happened during the timeout like 15 seconds later. It mainly tends to be an issue in the fourth quarter I've noticed.

They also don't really ever get overly excited if a player is going nuts.

[The 24th Letter]

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This is exactly why I love the commentary in this year's Madden. When they are calling the game, it sounds like they are watching it. I would love to get that feeling when playing NBA 2k. The situational awareness is exactly what I would love to see improved in 2k. I could not think of those words for the life of me before lol.

See I think we over look those instances because they've been happening for so long in 2k, and they are fresh in Madden

If you think about it, basketball has triple the amount of possesions of football. So for one of the commentators to refer to something that happned earlier in the game is a bit more of a challenge....but there are at least 10-15 instances when they will do that in 2k....

[El_Poopador]

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Really? I've definitely noticed when things happen to fast for the commentators and they talk about something that happened during the timeout like 15 seconds later. It mainly tends to be an issue in the fourth quarter I've noticed.

They also don't really ever get overly excited if a player is going nuts.

I post this video a LOT when talking about commentary and crowd involvement, but I can't help it. The day I see the crowd and commentators react to something in the game like this, that is the day when presentation is done perfectly.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tyd4NPvzKQg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Another thing to note is how much focus is on this specific game versus back story.

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Well I guess I missed it because the video is private now, smh

[Mauer4MVP]

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I post this video a LOT when talking about commentary and crowd involvement, but I can't help it. The day I see the crowd and commentators react to something in the game like this, that is the day when presentation is done perfectly.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tyd4NPvzKQg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Thanks for reminding me how awful Austin Carr and Fred McLeod are. Worst in the league.

[aholbert32]

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Definitely, but you could easily have him in the studio commentating a few close games like he does in real life. That and the crowd in the last two minutes make for some pretty dull endings even when something amazing happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHR5G0XLK3g

Look at how terrible the commentary is in that video.

There's basically no recognition of the situation until the Denver guy hits the shot. That all goes back to 2K always wanting the commentates to mention something, even when some moments simply don't call for it and don't do it in real life.

Harlan typically calls everything in the last few minutes of the game.
"shot clock at 4....LeBron.....BIG TIME TRIPLE!"

That kind of thing on all the shots, and then he'll get all excited on the last play of a game and say something like

"Iguodalaaaaaaa, gooodddddddd, he got ittt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y0T6k2k90w

I understand player specific would be near impossible, unless you had him chained to a chair for weeks on end, but surely there's a way we can get more of that excitement in the game.



and even then Harlan says something for a brief second before Greg Anthony just commentates on how he's played like it's the middle of the game.

No offense man but you overuse the word "easy" when it comes to what 2k can add or change in this game. Just because you sit Harlan down and have him call "a few close games like he does in real life" doesnt mean its easy to implement that commentary into every close late game scenario.

In fact, the video you showed is an example of what you suggested. They recorded a late game generic shot line and it came off flat.

I'm all for Harlan recording more up tempo content but its a trade off. They have limited time and a constant demand for new commentary content each year. So they can either have Harlan record certain previously recorded calls over with a more excited or urgent voice (for late game scenarios) or they can add more completely new commentary.

Given the short dev cycle and Harlan's availability, they likely cant get both in.

Also the examples, you list arent generic (Lebron and Iggy references)...they are specific and not easy to just drop into other commentary.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Really? I've definitely noticed when things happen to fast for the commentators and they talk about something that happened during the timeout like 15 seconds later. It mainly tends to be an issue in the fourth quarter I've noticed.

They also don't really ever get overly excited if a player is going nuts.

Shoot, the crowd doesn't even get overly excited if a player is going nuts so I can't blame them, lol.

You could have Klay Thompson score like 30 straight points and they'll act like nothing is happening.

But I've seen what you describe happen in the games I've played. Most times, it was usually in the 4th quarter as you mentioned but when the game is in blowout.