Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

[Steve_OS]

EA Sports has just revealed the top 50 rated players in NHL 17. Head over to the official site to see plenty of other attribute ratings.

50. Evgeny Kuznetsov
49. John Carlson
48. Max Pacioretty
47. Oliver Ekman-Larsson
46. Marc-Andre Fleury
45. Corey Crawford
44. Jakub Voracek
43. Ryan McDonagh
42. Brent Seabrook
41. Alex Pietrangelo
40. Kris Letang
39. Joe Thornton
38. Roman Josi
37. Kevin Shattenkirk
36. Mark Giordano
35. Patrice Bergeron
34. Johnny Gaudreau
33. Taylor Hall
32. Pekka Rinne
31. Dustin Byfuglien
30. Claude Giroux
29. Corey Schneider
28. Corey Perry
27. P.K. Subban
26. Marc-Edouard Vlasic
25. Nicklas Backstrom
24. Ryan Getzlaf
23. Joe Pavelski
22. Henrik Lundqvist
21. Tyler Seguin
20. Victor Hedman
19. Brent Burns
18. Braden Holtby
17. Erik Karlsson
16. Jonathan Quick
15. Ryan Suter
14. Evgeni Malkin
13. John Tavares
12. Duncan Keith
11. Vladimir Tarasenko
10. Anze Kopitar
9. Carey Price
8. Steven Stamkos
7. Shea Weber
6. Jonathan Toews
5. Alex Ovechkin
4. Drew Doughty
3. Patrick Kane
2. Jamie Benn
1. Sidney Crosby

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Patrick Kane has a 92 in defensive awareness.

That puts him 6th on that list. So I'm guessing, 6th in the entire league.

Just 2 points below Toews.

1 point behind Doughty.

Tied with Shea Weber and Bergeron.

1 higher than Anze Kopitar.



Please hire me EA.

[NinthFall]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Not a single Panthers player. :'(

[BearishRiggs]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Patrick Kane has a 92 in defensive awareness.

That puts him 6th on that list. So I'm guessing, 6th in the entire league.

Just 2 points below Toews.

1 point behind Doughty.

Tied with Shea Weber and Bergeron.

1 higher than Anze Kopitar.



Please hire me EA.

It's because of that physical category, they gotta boost his overall somehow lol

[mikeq672]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Patrick Kane has a 92 in defensive awareness.

That puts him 6th on that list. So I'm guessing, 6th in the entire league.

Just 2 points below Toews.

1 point behind Doughty.

Tied with Shea Weber and Bergeron.

1 higher than Anze Kopitar.



Please hire me EA.

LOL. I didnt look at them that closely. EA remains unchallenged in horrible player ratings across all games.

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

It's because of that physical category, they gotta boost his overall somehow lol

If their strength system works as they say it does, meaning bigger players will naturally be stronger than smaller players, then I'd rather them boost his strength categories than his defense.

[mikeq672]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Maybe they meant that Kane's defense in the court room is really good. He did avoid any charges.

[Boogee134]

46 players with a rating of 90 +
That's ridiculous.

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Maybe they meant that Kane's defense in the court room is really good. He did avoid any charges.

You win. Close thread.

[briguy4747]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Shea Weber # 7 in the entire NHL ??!!
Come on, EA !!!
Get a reality check !!!

[KTBFFH]

Where's Kessel?

[uni91]

The problem with the OVR rating in this game is that DEF AWR matters more than OFF AWR does! It is silly.....they should be just about the same! I can see it making a little more of a difference for D-Man but for forwards it should be equal! I agree Simple......its a joke that Kane's DEF is 92 while Jamie Benn's is 89!!!! Jamie Benn is waaaaaay more of a 2-way player than Kane.

I usually drop Kane's DEF down quite a bit which might bring him down to a 91 or 92......so what......he will still dominate offensively and put up numbers!

[Qb]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Yeah, all those screens of individual ratings illustrate the point I brought up in the Top 10 Defensemen thread. Ratings are skewed toward the perceived overall ability of the player rather than attempting to rate each attribute on its own merit.

Not to pick on Shea Weber -- my GM Connected friends know my fondness for WEBER BOMBS!!! -- but he has 90 passing and 90 puck control. And just as I predicted, 85 speed, 85 agility, and 85 acceleration. Subban has 88/87/87 and Letang 89/89/89. Huh?

And don't get me started on why speed, agility, and acceleration are almost always identical or within a point or two. Why even have three ratings if that's the case? Why not just a single "skating" rating? There are players who aren't exceptionally fast, but are very skilled skaters (high AGL/BAL), good straight line speed (SPD/ACC) but not as skilled; bigger guys can be powerful skaters (ACC/BAL) but not as fast or agile due to their mass. I know data isn't widely available yet to help quantify this stuff, so a lot of it would be the eye test and/or scouting reports & reputation. But it can surely be better than it is with EA's resources.

And nearly every other category suffers from these overrated weaknesses and not using a wide enough range of ratings. Maybe it's a mindset I just don't agree with -- eg, an NHL player must have a hands/deking rating above 75 or he wouldn't be in the league. There's no reason why Rob Scuderi (sorry Scuds) should have anything above 60 for deking. I don't care if AHLers or CHLers have higher ratings; frankly a lot of them have better hands. But they don't have the defensive awareness, shot blocking, stick checking, etc that allowed Scuderi to be an very effective defensive defenseman in his prime.

OK, I'm done being an old man yelling at a cloud.

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

Yeah, all those screens of individual ratings illustrate the point I brought up in the Top 10 Defensemen thread. Ratings are skewed toward the perceived overall ability of the player rather than attempting to rate each attribute on its own merit.

Not to pick on Shea Weber -- my GM Connected friends know my fondness for WEBER BOMBS!!! -- but he has 90 passing and 90 puck control. And just as I predicted, 85 speed, 85 agility, and 85 acceleration. Subban has 88/87/87 and Letang 89/89/89. Huh?

And don't get me started on why speed, agility, and acceleration are almost always identical or within a point or two. Why even have three ratings if that's the case? Why not just a single "skating" rating? There are players who aren't exceptionally fast, but are very skilled skaters (high AGL/BAL), good straight line speed (SPD/ACC) but not as skilled; bigger guys can be powerful skaters (ACC/BAL) but not as fast or agile due to their mass. I know data isn't widely available yet to help quantify this stuff, so a lot of it would be the eye test and/or scouting reports & reputation. But it can surely be better than it is with EA's resources.

And nearly every other category suffers from these overrated weaknesses and not using a wide enough range of ratings. Maybe it's a mindset I just don't agree with -- eg, an NHL player must have a hands/deking rating above 75 or he wouldn't be in the league. There's no reason why Rob Scuderi (sorry Scuds) should have anything above 60 for deking. I don't care if AHLers or CHLers have higher ratings; frankly a lot of them have better hands. But they don't have the defensive awareness, shot blocking, stick checking, etc that allowed Scuderi to be an very effective defensive defenseman in his prime.

OK, I'm done being an old man yelling at a cloud.

I'm in love with this post.

To go along with what you said, it is difficult to rate most players on acceleration vs speed because there just aren't scouting reports out there that always tell you that stuff. For example, a big resource I use for the Revamped Rosters is The Hockey News. They give pretty good scouting reports for all NHL players, but sometimes even for some of the fastest skaters in the league, it will not even mention his speed.

[Caniac94]

Re: Top 50 Rated Players in NHL 17

This probably won't help much but I just want to quickly input that I like to keep the speed up high because when you see a game (especially in person) guys are skating around pretty fast, even slower guys as well. I like to keep that speed element there. What I felt makes the most difference is acceleration. When I did my own roster edits I just generally made older guys slower by giving them a slower acceleration and younger guys faster with better acceleration, which is pretty obvious that younger guys are gonna generally be faster anyway. I also wanted most defensemen to be a touch slower than forwards. (I did mine pretty quickly based on what I know about each player, so they're not perfect but the game plays better than it did before).

I made Zuccarrello a pretty fast skater and he's fun to control when he has the puck. I can really feel the difference between players with just some simple edits. Now what I would just like to feel is the difference after using Revamped Rosters with this game since Simple Mathematics really does detailed edits. (C'mon EA we need roster sharing!) Anyway I just wanted to post this regardless.