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  • jmaj315
    Pro
    • Oct 2012
    • 993

    #121
    Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

    apologize for the double post, but wanted to separate my article comments from replies.

    The first thing that I had to double take at was this:

    The key was to ensure that other skilled long-range shooters couldn’t match Curry’s ability to hit 3s from way, way out — not even his fellow "Splash Brother," Klay Thompson.

    "He’s the only guy that’s actually doing it," Jones explained. "Nobody else is coming down, getting to the hash mark, or getting to the circle, and going, ‘Well, I’m shooting from here, forget you.’
    I understand that Steph is the best at shooting from distance, but I guess I just hope they don't make it so that nobody else can hit from deep. Lillard and PG have done that on occasion, just not nearly as often nor as high of a percentage.


    The second thing that had me thinking was this:

    I saw teammates leave their assignment to stop someone from getting an easy basket in the paint.
    This already happens, and it leads to open 3s in the corner. I hope they've tuned this properly because it's almost game breaking. Also, while speaking on the defensive, I hope that pick and roll/hedging screens are more fluid and can allow for splitting the hedge, snake dribbling, and/or better pocket pass animations.

    Oh and timing based steals will be awesome!


    I hope that the size ups work well. It'd be nice to have a move to get the defender off balance and not get "stuck" trying to go to the rim or something and allow the defense to catch up. That was soooooo frustrating.

    Finally:

    The new system in NBA 2K17 is designed to penalize people who lay on the sprint button all the time, because that’s simply not a realistic way to play basketball; you’ll have to bring in backups from time to time so your starters can catch a breather.
    I am so in love with this! Sheesh, people want to go 100mph all of the time and basketball simply is not that. I especially hated playing against Russ in play now and after i make a basket he sprints the length of the floor past my whole team. Thanks for fatigue 2k!


    Now all that's left is for a full offseason in online leagues
    I used to put important things here

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    • Eman5805
      MVP
      • Mar 2009
      • 3545

      #122
      Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team & More (Polygon

      Timing layups? I wonder if that is anything like a Tony Parker specialty where he goes up on the wrong foot to gain a little separation and a favorable angle to score in traffic.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #123
        Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

        Cant wait for Mike to break this down for us...because I think I have confused myself at this point as to what I think this is going to be, lol

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        • DonWuan
          MVP
          • Oct 2010
          • 1756

          #124
          Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

          Believe it when I see it.

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          • Nevertheles109
            Pro
            • Nov 2012
            • 643

            #125
            Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

            Originally posted by phriscaul
            he isnt right. he was snappy and went out of his way to be.


            i know about the left and right direction on the right stick. the whole point was, when you push the button, especially in times where you're caught in trying to win and just want to get the bucket, 2K shouldn't make it so that when you do push the button, you end up dunking in a way that favors the defense instead of favoring the offense. its happened since 2k14. and its super annoying.
            Both have valid points. Two sides to every story. Button needs to be more effective, yet finishing with the sick was done well this year. Just my opinion.

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            • rbfn04
              Rookie
              • Sep 2012
              • 90

              #126
              Originally posted by phriscaul
              when the score is 52-50 and you're on a break to push the lead, i dont have time to think stick vs button. im moving quick so i can get back on defense.
              So it's your mistake, not the game's

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              • phriscaul
                Banned
                • Dec 2015
                • 688

                #127
                Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                Originally posted by rbfn04
                So it's your mistake, not the game's
                if by, me pushing the shot button and they opting to chose the animation that favors the defense, then yes. totally my mistake. nothing to do with the programming at all....bc basketball players do this in real life. spot on mate.

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                • rbfn04
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 90

                  #128
                  Originally posted by phriscaul
                  if by, me pushing the shot button and they opting to chose the animation that favors the defense, then yes. totally my mistake. nothing to do with the programming at all....bc basketball players do this in real life. spot on mate.
                  there are better options, you choose the worst one. Yes, your mistake. And you act like basketball players never make mistakes, lower the ball and get it knocked out... ok

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                  • phriscaul
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 688

                    #129
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                    Originally posted by rbfn04
                    there are better options, you choose the worst one. Yes, your mistake. And you act like basketball players never make mistakes, lower the ball and get it knocked out... ok
                    the shot button should act as intended(along with have an option that provides more variety of finishes altogether). suggesting one or the other is, frankly, stupid. also, basketball players driving to the rim for layups and dunks instinctively keep the ball away from shot blockers and defenders and are endlessly drilled at the professional level on angles to take to ensure avoiding such circumstances. let alone proficient scorers. perhaps instead of caping for this trash programming, you should get out and play ball.
                    Last edited by phriscaul; 08-22-2016, 09:43 PM.

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                    • tt500
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 749

                      #130
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                      Originally posted by rbfn04
                      there are better options, you choose the worst one. Yes, your mistake. And you act like basketball players never make mistakes, lower the ball and get it knocked out... ok
                      We are talking about the dunks they bring the ball behind their head. He's pointing to situations he feels they should do a different dunk. Not everyone plays with stick, and those who use the button shouldn't be be considered using a bad option in these situations.

                      This is a problem for button users, so we state it. If I had a choice to use stick or button, I'd still use the button if the game understands the situation and animation to use.

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                      • tt500
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 749

                        #131
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                        Originally posted by phriscaul
                        the shot button should act as intended(along with have an option that provides more variety of finishes altogether). suggesting one or the other is, frankly, stupid. also, basketball players driving to the rim for layups and dunks instinctively keep the ball away from shot blockers and defenders and are endlessly drilled at the professional level on angles to take to ensure avoiding such circumstances. let alone proficient scorers. perhaps instead of caping for this trash programming, you should get out and play ball.
                        Well there's no point arguing to them, hopefully a dev may read it and think about improving the logic for the animations chosen for those who are used to using buttons than the stick.

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                        • phriscaul
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 688

                          #132
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                          Originally posted by tt500
                          Well there's no point arguing to them, hopefully a dev may read it and think about improving the logic for the animations chosen for those who are used to using buttons than the stick.
                          true and well stated. contrarian for the sake of being so is the mantra around here.

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                          • Black Bruce Wayne
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1459

                            #133
                            Originally posted by phriscaul
                            true and well stated. contrarian for the sake of being so is the mantra around here.
                            Do you like anything about 2k? On every thread you basically tell us all how the bad the game is, and how bad this one is going to be? There has to be something about the game that makes you happy, without completely killing it for the rest of us? No offense, but there has to be something good

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #134
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                              Hmm, that's news to me.


                              Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
                              Do you like anything about 2k? On every thread you basically tell us all how the bad the game is, and how bad this one is going to be? There has to be something about the game that makes you happy, without completely killing it for the rest of us? No offense, but there has to be something good
                              To his defense, he did that he's not getting the game this year so you can't blame for not finding anything to be positive about with this game.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • phriscaul
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 688

                                #135
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Hands-On Impressions - Freelance Offenses For Every Team and More (Polyg

                                Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
                                Do you like anything about 2k? On every thread you basically tell us all how the bad the game is, and how bad this one is going to be? There has to be something about the game that makes you happy, without completely killing it for the rest of us? No offense, but there has to be something good
                                nah. ive not once said how bad its going to be. what i have done, is point out all the glaring mechanics issues in the game. something that nobody ever wants to talk about. and ive stated multiple times that should they fix these issues, i'd be happy as all hell.....but they gotta fix these issues because they just add up.


                                as far as things i like? i like the presentation. I like that they attempt to really give you an authentic nba experience, in terms of presentation. but for me, the gameplay comes first. somebody here made the point that 2K likes to make it flashy but ignore legacy issues. and literally, everything i talk about here on this forum are legacy issues that people willfully ignore(which is fine if just having a basketball game suffices....to which i respect). but i was under the impression that 'sim' was the end goal here, and if so, then lets have an honest convo without all the condescending retort.
                                Last edited by phriscaul; 08-22-2016, 10:00 PM.

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