NBA 2K17 Trailer - Friction

[The 24th Letter]

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It all comes down to respecting the next guy's interests...

I have never and will never care about a dudes traps and leg thickness in a basketball video game... if the next man does, rock on....

but dont tell some one theyre wrong for thinking the models look good.

[Mauer4MVP]

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I don't understand why guys can't point things out without getting bashed for what they see lol. Nobody said body types were game breaking, but it's kind of disappointing to see them give that highschool build to so many players when they already had a great "skinny-athlete" build (Curry, Wiggins, Durant) in the previous game.

I agree, but it gets to the point of sounding spoiled and gets tiring.

[aholbert32]

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you asked a question to which you already knew the answer.


no game has gotten it all right, as of yet, as the technology wasnt there, before. but it is now. so that's not a legit excuse which is the point that the other guys are ultimately making.

LOL. Actually I didnt. In my last post, I stated that I havent played every NBA game. So I have no idea if other games have done player models right. Even games I played last year, dont answer the question for me.

I played Live for about 30 minutes last year but played their pro am mode so I didnt see any of the actual player models. For all I know, EA couldve got it right.

A legit excuse is....its all subjective. There is no middle ground. There are some models that I think are exact (D. Lillard) but I promise you there is someone who has a "major issue" with his bicep or calves or fingers or mustache.

It depends on the person. That doesnt mean that a person cant complain about the model being "off" in their opinion. But you cant follow that up with "2k needs to get this right" because "right" depends on the person.

I promise you 2k's art team looked at Paul George and thought "he looks realistic." Others disagree.

[Hustle Westbrook]

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You do know that NBA live has the rights to MSG, right? 2K can't make the exact replica.

Live having the rights has nothing to do with the color of the paint being off. It just means they can't use the MSG logo and that's it.

This isn't a licensing issue considering this issue has happened before in previous 2Ks and its been corrected.

[GSW]

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I dunno I still think the player models look good. Steph looks good. KD looks good. Obviously it looks like the muscle definition look goes away with the skinnier arms.

Regarding the other things, yea man it's 2016 we wanna see real humans running up and down the floor. I get it. I'm just saying that it's really not all that bad (IMO).

And I also think insinuating that people aren't doing their jobs, or refusing to out of spite is a little disingenuous. It's obviously not easy. Perhaps if they focused on doing these things it would take time and resources from other areas of the game. I don't think anyone here can actually make those calls.

Or maybe it is out of spite. Because it makes them laugh that people complain about cankles.

[SlyNumb3r1]

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Okay so i love the trailer.. Lightning look much better and the presentation look Wow! what i love are the net phisis and looks (hope the sound is also better) and i noticed there are new thicker rubberbands now..

and now the negative..

U Guys.. ! im starting to hate this board.. the level ob crybabys here is absolutely ridicoulos.. all u guys doing is cring about f*in muscle definition, big jerseys, *the wrong blue* and what ever.. its a joke with u guys.. and the Master of crybabys is WIsports.. 2k should just ban u from playing it if the game is as **** as u guys make it out to be... go out and play some real ball u guys are taking this stuff too serious.. next thing axillary hair are to long huh? and u guys saw the knees?? omg the knees look too clean.. and drummond needs his hair on the back omg its a disaster..

incredible..

[Mikelopedia]

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Look, most of us here who post regularly are all at least in our 20's, 30's and 40's. So we ALL remember what games looked like on SNES, Dreamcast, 64, PS1, PS2 etc.

So everyone can stop using that as a precursor to bash anyone criticizing player appearance or any other aesthetic of the game (or at least what we are currently seeing).

Some people care about these details some people don't. YES WE GET IT. No one is acting like twitter internet gangster kids on here, no one needs to be policed by the "I don't care what they look like cause I remember what they looked like in Kobe Bryant NBA Courtside - types.

Yes we all agree gameplay first. That is what makes a video game good or crap. Duh. But A) the same dev team that do the "body scans" are not the same dev team that implements gameplay improvement. B) This is a TRAILER. It's showcasing the aesthetics. If members see things that are off that you think look fine, cool. It's not about being satisfied or not. It's about the desire to see technology pushed towards realism with each installment. Other wise why aren't we just all content with our old antenna tv with analog programming?

[BluFu]

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It all comes down to respecting the next guy's interests...

I have never and will never care about a dudes traps and leg thickness in a basketball video game... if the next man does, rock on....

but dont tell some one theyre wrong for thinking the models look good.

I agree, but it gets to the point of sounding spoiled and gets tiring.

Fair points

[Teddy_Long]

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It all comes down to respecting the next guy's interests...

I have never and will never care about a dudes traps and leg thickness in a basketball video game... if the next man does, rock on....

but dont tell some one theyre wrong for thinking the models look good.

true but letter, but what about not addressing the msg court colors? lol it's been what, 9 months?

[Black Bruce Wayne]

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Looks okay, it doesn't really scream "new game" at me though. This could have been made from 2k16 footage

There was no shoot around in NBA2k16. Ingram and Simmons weren't in NBA2K16. But I do agree we need more

[Teddy_Long]

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is it me but the colors seem dull?

[MontanaMan]

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I agree, but it gets to the point of sounding spoiled and gets tiring.

Spoiled? A lot of us are spending $100 on this years title.

The game isn't free...

[aholbert32]

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true but letter, but what about not addressing the msg court colors? lol it's been what, 9 months?

This is just a bad oversight and something that should be fixed. This is one of those scenarios where I wish more 2k devs were on twitter were people could tweet them about this issue and it gets passed on to the art teams.

[phriscaul]

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LOL. Actually I didnt. In my last post, I stated that I havent played every NBA game. So I have no idea if other games have done player models right. Even games I played last year, dont answer the question for me.

I played Live for about 30 minutes last year but played their pro am mode so I didnt see any of the actual player models. For all I know, EA couldve got it right.

A legit excuse is....its all subjective. There is no middle ground. There are some models that I think are exact (D. Lillard) but I promise you there is someone who has a "major issue" with his bicep or calves or fingers or mustache.

It depends on the person. That doesnt mean that a person cant complain about the model being "off" in their opinion. But you cant follow that up with "2k needs to get this right" because "right" depends on the person.

I promise you 2k's art team looked at Paul George and thought "he looks realistic." Others disagree.

Devs also cut corners to meet deadlines.


with that said, again, this doesnt bother me one way or the other. but perspective from all sides have to be taken into account. the overall consensus is that the player builds are off. and likeness truly matters to a **** ton of people as it aids their gaming experience.

[phriscaul]

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Look, most of us here who post regularly are all at least in our 20's, 30's and 40's. So we ALL remember what games looked like on SNES, Dreamcast, 64, PS1, PS2 etc.

So everyone can stop using that as a precursor to bash anyone criticizing player appearance or any other aesthetic of the game (or at least what we are currently seeing).

Some people care about these details some people don't. YES WE GET IT. No one is acting like twitter internet gangster kids on here, no one needs to be policed by the "I don't care what they look like cause I remember what they looked like in Kobe Bryant NBA Courtside - types.

Yes we all agree gameplay first. That is what makes a video game good or crap. Duh. But A) the same dev team that do the "body scans" are not the same dev team that implements gameplay improvement. B) This is a TRAILER. It's showcasing the aesthetics. If members see things that are off that you think look fine, cool. It's not about being satisfied or not. It's about the desire to see technology pushed towards realism with each installment. Other wise why aren't we just all content with our old antenna tv with analog programming?

well said.