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  • SpeedyClaxton
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    • Dec 2015
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    #181
    Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

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    • twebb5896
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      • Jun 2013
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      #182
      Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

      Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
      I agree with the Cavs, but the Warriors are separate from the conversation. They are coming off a title and had the greatest regular season ever.
      Hey how many times did prime Mike allow his team to go down 3-1 and not show up in essentially every game during the series? You know since they were on the same level in their primes I'm sure it happened right?

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      • jeebs9
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        • Oct 2008
        • 47558

        #183
        Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

        Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
        I agree with the Cavs, but the Warriors are separate from the conversation. They are coming off a title and had the greatest regular season ever.
        My point was back then how can we make them the greatest team in the game. The current team that hasn't even made the playoffs as good as team. While the Lakers have an 84 overall rating. And went 15-1 during the playoffs. That's just backwards. I was saying this before they broke the season record.

        With all this said. The series isn't over yet. But I still don't believe they are better then that Lakers team that won 3 straight.

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        • Mauer4MVP
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          • Mar 2010
          • 2407

          #184
          Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          My point was back then how can we make them the greatest team in the game. The current team that hasn't even made the playoffs as good as team. While the Lakers have an 84 overall rating. And went 15-1 during the playoffs. That's just backwards. I was saying this before they broke the season record.

          With all this said. The series isn't over yet. But I still don't believe they are better then that Lakers team that won 3 straight.

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          Yeah I can't dispute anything you said. Definitely a well thought opinion. Didn't mean to up on you if that's how it came across. Just a lot of bad opinions going on in this thread.

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          • Mauer4MVP
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            • Mar 2010
            • 2407

            #185
            Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

            Originally posted by twebb5896
            Hey how many times did prime Mike allow his team to go down 3-1 and not show up in essentially every game during the series? You know since they were on the same level in their primes I'm sure it happened right?
            Well his teams did that 4 times. But hey, if you want to put the failure on one player for this series and the team for Jordan by all means.

            That's what sports are great for. An overreaction based on a n insanely small sample size.

            Lol it amazes me a post that silly got that many likes.

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            • twebb5896
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              • Jun 2013
              • 218

              #186
              Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

              Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
              Well his teams did that 4 times. But hey, if you want to put the failure on one player for this series and the team for Jordan by all means.

              That's what sports are great for. An overreaction based on a n insanely small sample size.

              Lol it amazes me a post that silly got that many likes.
              I said PRIME bud, as in during the two 3 peats? It's funny you're trying to say the greatest SHOOTER ever is just as good as the greatest PLAYER ever, you're a joke. You must watch ESPN all day because you sound like those brainwashed clowns.

              Based on the "Warriors are the best team ever" argument shouldn't it be even easier for Curry and the Warriors to become a dynasty?

              Guess not because they're getting bounced in the Conference Finals FULLY HEALTHY.
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              • SpeedyClaxton
                Pro
                • Dec 2015
                • 655

                #187
                Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                This thread was pointless as much as the one named 'fall of wardell curry' but nevermind about that, thread by itself added many unnecessary comparisons and fuel on the fire. I think after this season we all will start to appreciate Jordan more, not because well-known 72-10 record but because how he & the Bulls squad played later stages of seasons aka playoffs.

                We were all blinded/impressed in certain way with this i will say very much 'unique' season, it was so weird & special season that we on one point thought about giving Curry above 99 rating like this thread title says. What 2K needs to do is to give their best effort to translate his game into 2K17 and that doesn't mean bunch of 99's because as much as his shooting is one of a kind, when it comes to making authentic individual strengths and weaknesses plays equal role in determining realisitic outcome.
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                • Mauer4MVP
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                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2407

                  #188
                  Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                  Originally posted by twebb5896
                  I said PRIME bud, as in during the two 3 peats? It's funny you're trying to say the greatest SHOOTER ever is just as good as the greatest PLAYER ever, you're a joke. You must watch ESPN all day because you sound like those brainwashed clowns.

                  Based on the "Warriors are the best team ever" argument shouldn't it be even easier for Curry and the Warriors to become a dynasty?

                  Guess not because they're getting bounced in the Conference Finals FULLY HEALTHY.
                  Or I actually consider the context of each era, put together statistical analysis, and watch games rather than rely on a deeply rooted memory of prime Jordan.

                  You're right, Jordan is the greatest player ever because he did it over his entire career. But going back to last year all the way through this year until he got hurt, Curry was just as effective as Jordan. I'll stand by that.

                  And btw, I have my doubts Curry is fully healthy. Guys like Draymond are getting exposed, though.

                  Have a great day.

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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47558

                    #189
                    Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                    Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                    Yeah I can't dispute anything you said. Definitely a well thought opinion. Didn't mean to up on you if that's how it came across. Just a lot of bad opinions going on in this thread.
                    Oh I agree this thread overall is nuts. I actually think Curry is ok where he is at. Best shooter in the game, was playing amazing basketball all season long. Has all the right badges. Yea, I have no problem at all.
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                    • Real2KInsider
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4644

                      #190
                      Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                      Originally posted by twebb5896
                      Hey how many times did prime Mike allow his team to go down 3-1 and not show up in essentially every game during the series? You know since they were on the same level in their primes I'm sure it happened right?
                      1. How does Michael Jordan's individual ability matter relative to his teammates' accountability?

                      2. Did Michael Jordan ever suffer an injury mid-playoffs that he had to rush back from?

                      3. Did Michael Jordan ever have to play a team as good as OKC in the Conference Finals?
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                      • Real2KInsider
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 4644

                        #191
                        Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                        The series so far basically comes down to this

                        Roberson/Waiters: 12-24 3PT (50%)
                        Combined R.Season: 118-343 3PT (34%)

                        Klay/Green: 13-47 3PT (27%)
                        Combined R.Season: 376-908 (41%)

                        Trying to use "Curry isn't Jordan" as a reason for the series standing is not only a red herring but the laziest type of barstool sports analysis imaginable, and unbecoming of what this forum is supposed to be.
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                        • jcmreds
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                          • Jan 2010
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                          #192
                          Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                          Originally posted by Rashidi
                          The series so far basically comes down to this

                          Roberson/Waiters: 12-24 3PT (50%)
                          Combined R.Season: 118-343 3PT (34%)

                          Klay/Green: 13-47 3PT (27%)
                          Combined R.Season: 376-908 (41%)

                          Trying to use "Curry isn't Jordan" as a reason for the series standing is not only a red herring but the laziest type of barstool sports analysis imaginable, and unbecoming of what this forum is supposed to be.
                          The series comes down to Westbrook and KD severely outplaying Curry and Thompson with the role players cancelling each other out. Regular season numbers mean nothing. It doesn't matter if they lit up a bunch of scrubs in the regular season they have to do it to OKC's D now.
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                          • Mauer4MVP
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 2407

                            #193
                            Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                            Originally posted by jcmreds
                            The series comes down to Westbrook and KD severely outplaying Curry and Thompson with the role players cancelling each other out. Regular season numbers mean nothing. It doesn't matter if they lit up a bunch of scrubs in the regular season they have to do it to OKC's D now.
                            You're a little right. The series obviously comes down to these games. His point was that they are shooting way above their norm.

                            And Westbrook and KD are playing better than Curry/Klay. That's correct. Benches are a wash in terms of points per game, but OKC's bench is doing it more efficiently leaving less wasted possessions for KD/Westbrook.

                            Also, Curry does have the highest TS% among those big 4 and is still average 24/5.5/4.5/2 while he is likely injured. He is far from the problem.

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                            • jcmreds
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 199

                              #194
                              Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                              Curry isn't playing bad, but he is being outplayed by Westbrook who is having an all time great series. Curry has 18 ast to 17 TO. Westbrook has 47 ast to 16 TO. Westbrook is averaging nearly 4 steals per game and 6.5 reb. GS can't win with Curry being outplayed to this degree.

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                              • Real2KInsider
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 4644

                                #195
                                Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                                Originally posted by jcmreds
                                The series comes down to Westbrook and KD severely outplaying Curry and Thompson
                                Westbrook and Durant are top-5 players in the NBA.

                                Klay Thompson is not.

                                OKC certainly has the talent to win the series and they would not be the first team to underachieve in the regular season and then go on a deeper-than-expected playoff run.

                                with the role players cancelling each other out.
                                Steven Adams: 11.0 PPG, 8.5 RPG
                                Andrew Bogut: 3.0 PPG, 4.3 RPG

                                "Canceling each other out"

                                Regular season numbers mean nothing. It doesn't matter if they lit up a bunch of scrubs in the regular season they have to do it to OKC's D now.
                                OKC had the best offense right after GS. The main adjustment they have made compared to the regular season and first two rounds is going with a smaller lineup rather than playing Enes Kanter (which has helped their defense).
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