NBA 2K16 Patch #6 Available For PC, PlayStation 4 & Xbox One, Patch Notes Included

[born2playball]

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Absolutely embarrassing what the community for this game has turned into.

This is exactly the community 2k is now targeting and going after now so its no suprise. I agree its embarrassing for a franchise that used to be about simulation that it has actually come to this. Its arcade street no brains basketball at its best.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: NBA 2K16 Patch #6 Available Now For PlayStation 4 & Xbox One, Patch Notes Include

All this video reminds me of is the me first attitude

OM GEE
OM GEE
OM GEE

LOOK AT ME
LOOK AT ME
LOOK AT ME

That video lasted about 10 seconds for me...don't care.

[KingTocco]

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That video lasted about 10 seconds for me...don't care.

I wouldn't care either but people like this do affect 2K gamers. People like Fredo and all these others get thousands and millions of view on YouTube/Twitch and all they do is try to find the best and biggest exploits each year to keep winning/making money.

Then, everyone that watches and follows does the same and before you know it you have all sorts of exploits and trash gameplay running rampant in 2K each year.

I don't watch and I don't care about these fools but at the same time they do affect the game for a lot of other players.

[Mike Lowe]

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I wouldn't care either but people like this do affect 2K gamers. People like Fredo and all these others get thousands and millions of view on YouTube/Twitch and all they do is try to find the best and biggest exploits each year to keep winning/making money.

Then, everyone that watches and follows does the same and before you know it you have all sorts of exploits and trash gameplay running rampant in 2K each year.

I don't watch and I don't care about these fools but at the same time they do affect the game for a lot of other players.

Yeah, for sure. Sorry, I thought we were just discussing the dude's "awesomeness" lol.

[KingTocco]

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Yeah, for sure. Sorry, I thought we were just discussing the dude's "awesomeness" lol.

No worries man, I hear you.

[23]

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I wouldn't care either but people like this do affect 2K gamers. People like Fredo and all these others get thousands and millions of view on YouTube/Twitch and all they do is try to find the best and biggest exploits each year to keep winning/making money.

Then, everyone that watches and follows does the same and before you know it you have all sorts of exploits and trash gameplay running rampant in 2K each year.

I don't watch and I don't care about these fools but at the same time they do affect the game for a lot of other players.

Well King, it's up to us to point those things out to 2k, and 2k's to fix it.

We can't be a silent sim community when it comes to how the game plays

I don't think they should listen to every single suggestion and just make a great NBA basketball game but there are tons of great ideas thrown out from the fans all the time and I know they read.

Even so, 2k watches those videos too to plug in some of the holes. I know Scott OG does and we know Czar is always here giving people a behind the scenes look at how the process works, even though it's ignored by complainers.

We all can have a part... but it cant be the stuff like

"2k better do this or im not buying"

"yall bums never fix anything im playing live"

" 2k dont care, it's too hard to score and all they want is money"


That stuff doesn't serve anyone any good.

[KingTocco]

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Well King, it's up to us to point those things out to 2k, and 2k's to fix it.

We can't be a silent sim community when it comes to how the game plays

I don't think they should listen to every single suggestion and just make a great NBA basketball game but there are tons of great ideas thrown out from the fans all the time and I know they read.

Even so, 2k watches those videos too to plug in some of the holes. I know Scott OG does and we know Czar is always here giving people a behind the scenes look at how the process works, even though it's ignored by complainers.

We all can have a part... but it cant be the stuff like

"2k better do this or im not buying"

"yall bums never fix anything im playing live"

" 2k dont care, it's too hard to score and all they want is money"


That stuff doesn't serve anyone any good.

Completely agree, thanks for pointing that out.

I do know that 2K comes here and I know our connection with Czar and some others so that's great. I'm from the same school of thought as you in terms of speaking up with constructive criticism, suggestions, and praise where it's due.

I think that 2K16 is a great game and they do listen in a lot of ways, they are also in a tough spot in balancing sim and still offering other things for the more casual buyers out there as well.

I also agree that not every suggestion needs to or should be implemented, you can never please everyone and not all suggestions are good (subjective of course).

As you mentioned, this community needs to do a better job of using this platform we have to get this feedback to the guys at 2K, contrary to popular belief they do care.

[E The Rhymer]

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I watched some of that as I thought it may have been quite funny for 10 minutes. I was wrong. What struck me as more sinister, was the fact he was asking for donations to him personally, and he was getting them. Now if any of his subscribers are old enough to vote I'd be amazed, so he was taking money from kids to play the game he'd be playing regardless. They don't get anything for this, other than a shoutout.



Just felt really wrong. He's an absolute bellend.

Not really if anything it's smart he making money doing what he wants they don't have to give him money. The one thing I don't get is that they have to pay above a certain amount to get the message to appear for the whole stream and I've seen people I've him 5-10 dollars for it to appear just to say he sucks like that's just the thing I don't get why pay 10$ just to say that u don't like him. do u need attention that bad?

[23]

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Completely agree, thanks for pointing that out.

I do know that 2K comes here and I know our connection Czar and some others so that's great. I'm from the same school of though as you in terms of speaking up with constructive criticism, suggestions, and praise where it's due.

I think that 2K16 is a great game and they do listen in a lot of ways, they are also in a tough spot in balancing sim and still offering other things for the more casual buyers out there as well.

I also agree that not every suggestion needs to or should be implemented, you can never please everyone and not all suggestions are good (subjective of course).

As you mentioned, this community needs to do a better job of using this platform we have to get this feedback to the guys at 2K, contrary to popular belief they do care.

Man most sim players are gone playing not posting when the game drops

2 weeks in after release and casuals complain instead of learning to adjust and 2k changes it mostly in ways we dont like it

I dont think we're not vocal, just not vocal enough for long enough. Its always reactive instead of proactive from what we usually see

[KingTocco]

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Man most sim players are gone playing not posting when the game drops

2 weeks in after release and casuals complain instead of learning to adjust and 2k changes it mostly in ways we dont like it

I dont think we're not vocal, just not vocal enough for long enough. Its always reactive instead of proactive from what we usually see

Agreed, I'm very active before the game and then when it drops I just want to play and dive in messing with playbooks, offensive/defensive sets, etc.

I'm really going to try and be more vocal throughout the year for 2K17, not just at the front and back end. I hope others do the same as well.

[23]

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Agreed, I'm very active before the game and then when it drops I just want to play and dive in messing with playbooks, offensive/defensive sets, etc.

I'm really going to try and be more vocal throughout the year for 2K17, not just at the front and back end. I hope others do the same as well.

Yeah man some of us are but not enough of us. Just watch what happens for 17. I'll be PMing you

[KingTocco]

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Yeah man some of us are but not enough of us. Just watch what happens for 17. I'll be PMing you

You're right though, it will happen. I look forward to those PMs haha.

[2cu3be1]

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I do know that 2K comes here and I know our connection with Czar and some others so that's great. I'm from the same school of thought as you in terms of speaking up with constructive criticism, suggestions, and praise where it's due.

I agree with you that Czar, also with his background in the sim community and having stood outside before is a great situation for both 2k and the users. I see Czar taking great interest in changing or wanting to change fundamental flaws. He really likes basketball fundamentally, at least that is the impression I have gotten from the simnation podcast, and he writes things down and asks for what exactly needs to be changed. That is the right approach.

I think that 2K16 is a great game and they do listen in a lot of ways, they are also in a tough spot in balancing sim and still offering other things for the more casual buyers out there as well.

HOWEVER, and this will continue my previous train of thought from before the above quote and also be aimed at the above quote, I also think that the interest that we and the Czar have, namely that of making and playing a great "realistic" basketball game (whatever that might mean or if that is even possible and how much, at all) cannot as much as we want be met with 2k's business objectives. I understand the incentives of running a business (as I run my own business) and that it's not all jolly good and fun, but that the bottom line has to be met first and foremost in order to keep it running and only thereby opening up the opportunity of being able to "afford" to make a game that appeals to both the casual p(l)ayer and the sim p(l)ayer. You HAVE TO cater to the crowd that keeps your game being sold. The age and intentions range of the p(l)ayers is so wide, that 2k is obviously going to try to cover their cost easiest and also try to win more customers. So I understand both sides' objecitives and they are all well intended, but they there are priorities that have to be met and 2k is acting accordingly. I have seen 2k enrich the game with multiple modes, which is great for the fan who likes basketball more than just on a superficial level, and deeper, actual offensive schemes being implemented etc. but which is making the game look really great. That is where I agree with the above quote. I disagree with it though on that part that it IS NOT a great game when it comes down to what matters most, namely GAMEPLAY. When ratings don't SEEMS to matter and it SEEMS the game can be literally, intentionally broken (#breakthegame), pr with speed boosts, or speeding against a non-existent, parting-the-red-sea-like transition D and offensive players slithering around great defenders and players dunking unimpeded or players constantly blocking players without fouls being called, then the gameplay is just not great, but only LOOKS GREAT. The frame suggest greatness, but the the content is not holding up to what it suggests. The game as a whole has developed and gotten better, but 2k is still and I guess will, with regards to meeting their business objectives, which are forcing their hands, as well as their human reasoning ("why not make more money, if people buy the game and play it like a slot machine, even though they are getting "cheated"", "who are we to hold us to higher standards in a cutthroat business world where making money is the only, and rightfully so , intent") be going in the direction of watering down the game play. The evidence is on the table as people can literally score within 2-3 seconds after a made basket by either turboing down the court with a Westbrook like player and dunk on anyone, as the D is terrible, or they can pull up with Curry from half court and score. None of the deeper stuff that the frame gives and suggests matter, no freelance or plays or the like, when the game is coming down to 2 buttons being pushed, that a lab rat can do, and the game play being literally a modern version of NBA JAM.

2k needs to make a decision. You cannot have sim game play with NBA Jam like elements mixed in, with the NBA Jam parts overriding the sim parts. That's the problem with the game that 2k has no interest in solving their ACTIONS suggest, not their words, their ACTIONS, and they speak louder than words, as is well known.

[kabamaru]

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I agree with you that Czar, also with his background in the sim community and having stood outside before is a great situation for both 2k and the users. I see Czar taking great interest in changing or wanting to change fundamental flaws. He really likes basketball fundamentally, at least that is the impression I have gotten from the simnation podcast, and he writes things down and asks for what exactly needs to be changed. That is the right approach.



HOWEVER, and this will continue my previous train of thought from before the above quote and also be aimed at the above quote, I also think that the interest that we and the Czar have, namely that of making and playing a great "realistic" basketball game (whatever that might mean or if that is even possible and how much, at all) cannot as much as we want be met with 2k's business objectives. I understand the incentives of running a business (as I run my own business) and that it's not all jolly good and fun, but that the bottom line has to be met first and foremost in order to keep it running and only thereby opening up the opportunity of being able to "afford" to make a game that appeals to both the casual p(l)ayer and the sim p(l)ayer. You HAVE TO cater to the crowd that keeps your game being sold. The age and intentions range of the p(l)ayers is so wide, that 2k is obviously going to try to cover their cost easiest and also try to win more customers. So I understand both sides' objecitives and they are all well intended, but they there are priorities that have to be met and 2k is acting accordingly. I have seen 2k enrich the game with multiple modes, which is great for the fan who likes basketball more than just on a superficial level, and deeper, actual offensive schemes being implemented etc. but which is making the game look really great. That is where I agree with the above quote. I disagree with it though on that part that it IS NOT a great game when it comes down to what matters most, namely GAMEPLAY. When ratings don't SEEMS to matter and it SEEMS the game can be literally, intentionally broken (#breakthegame), pr with speed boosts, or speeding against a non-existent, parting-the-red-sea-like transition D and offensive players slithering around great defenders and players dunking unimpeded or players constantly blocking players without fouls being called, then the gameplay is just not great, but only LOOKS GREAT. The frame suggest greatness, but the the content is not holding up to what it suggests. The game as a whole has developed and gotten better, but 2k is still and I guess will, with regards to meeting their business objectives, which are forcing their hands, as well as their human reasoning ("why not make more money, if people buy the game and play it like a slot machine, even though they are getting "cheated"", "who are we to hold us to higher standards in a cutthroat business world where making money is the only, and rightfully so , intent") be going in the direction of watering down the game play. The evidence is on the table as people can literally score within 2-3 seconds after a made basket by either turboing down the court with a Westbrook like player and dunk on anyone, as the D is terrible, or they can pull up with Curry from half court and score. None of the deeper stuff that the frame gives and suggests matter, no freelance or plays or the like, when the game is coming down to 2 buttons being pushed, that a lab rat can do, and the game play being literally a modern version of NBA JAM.

2k needs to make a decision. You cannot have sim game play with NBA Jam like elements mixed in, with the NBA Jam parts overriding the sim parts. That's the problem with the game that 2k has no interest in solving their ACTIONS suggest, not their words, their ACTIONS, and they speak louder than words, as is well known.

I agree 100% with everything you said.
However I believe that 2k could de-couple the game to appear to more casuals and sim players. So different set of sliders on play now online and park. Fully restricted RTTP ladders in Superstar sim for Myteam, vs All allowed god cards in a seperate ladder.

I firmly believe that decoupling can take place

[2cu3be1]

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I agree 100% with everything you said.
However I believe that 2k could de-couple the game to appear to more casuals and sim players. So different set of sliders on play now online and park. Fully restricted RTTP ladders in Superstar sim for Myteam, vs All allowed god cards in a seperate ladder.

I firmly believe that decoupling can take place

A different slider set would be really nice. The game is just more fun/ deeper with more realistic sliders. I mean, why do people even watch to play the game in the first place? To try to emulate the game as they see it. Apparently, people have problems seeing or they have forgotten what they saw on TV.