NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best Team

[JayBillups36]

I just had this conversation with my friends. We were really hoping to see the work up to greatest of all time like play now has. Would have made perfect sense. Now we're trying to get matched up with the worst team and we get rewarded for blowing them out of the water? Not very fun. And I do not want anything like EASHL to happen again, I worked my *** off for my 65 badges and 99 overall. If you don't put in the same work I should be better than you on the floor.

[Kodii Rockets]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

Visual Concepts should let Pro-Am teams work their way up the seeds for a full month of unlimited, uninterrupted preliminary play. Once a team wins the first seed, it qualifies for the Road to the Finals knockout tournament:

8th seed, 10-game series -- 2 wins to advance, you can't drop any lower than this
7th seed, 10-game series -- 3 wins to advance, 1 win to stay put, 8 losses for a demotion
6th seed, 10-game series -- 4 wins to advance, 2 wins to stay put, 7 losses for a demotion
5th seed, 10-game series -- 5 wins to advance, 3 wins to stay put, 6 losses for a demotion
4th seed, 10-game series -- 6 wins to advance, 4 wins to stay put, 5 losses for a demotion
3rd seed, 10-game series -- 7 wins to advance, 5 wins to stay put, 4 losses for a demotion
2nd seed, 10-game series -- 8 wins to advance, 6 wins to stay put, 3 losses for a demotion
1st seed, 10-game series -- 9 wins to advance, 7 wins to stay put, 2 losses for a demotion
If an even number of teams make the final tournament field, then the bracket is easy to setup:

Seed the teams based on how quickly they completed the ladder. The first team to qualify plays the last team to qualify, then so on down the list.

If an odd number of teams make it in, then all you have to do is hold a single play-in game between the last two teams to qualify, with the winner earning a spot in the even-numbered field.

We're only in the “preseason” stages of Road to the Finals, with the first official qualification event not starting until February 15, so why not scrap this easily exploited points-based system and switch to something where winning is all that matters?

[downsouth]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

That's kind of what I'm saying. A stand alone game based solely on online competition. Offline, is no question very very good.

I think it would do well in sale, if made well. To play and have fun online, I just don't think people need a fully licensed game. More money to be put into polishing gameplay.

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It would be a great game, and we'd buy it, but they would be sales like live. If they could have great sales around a great game with no licenses there'd still be a 2K Football and an EA Sports College Football.

[Vroman]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

Somebody already made online street/park basketball game without licenses :

http://store.steampowered.com/app/339610/

Can't say how successful this game is, but reviews are pretty positive. However its a really arcade style with exaggerated moves and lots fluff cosmetics.

[hanzsomehanz]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

Interesting take.

It's like the took a handoff from the concept for Domination mode in My Team and ran with it.

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[ChaseB]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

Somebody already made online street/park basketball game without licenses :

http://store.steampowered.com/app/339610/

Can't say how successful this game is, but reviews are pretty positive. However its a really arcade style with exaggerated moves and lots fluff cosmetics.

There was a week there where this game was really popular with streamers. Not sure how it has done since.

[FilipinoBroskie]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

I want to be in the tournament, need to join a team first lol

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[E The Rhymer]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

Somebody already made online street/park basketball game without licenses :

http://store.steampowered.com/app/339610/

Can't say how successful this game is, but reviews are pretty positive. However its a really arcade style with exaggerated moves and lots fluff cosmetics.

I've played it and it is the definition of cheese absolutely no passing if u don't get out at PG u don't touch the ball unless on the odd chance ur a big man(almost no one is) and hope a shot misses(this almost never happens) and then hope ur guy can grab the board before someone who dropped 50 extra on the game to get a late stage character runs across court for a putback slam.

Btw this is one of the most popular F2P games on steams arm so I think that says a lot about what people seem to want which makes me fell that there is almost no hope devs will choose sim over arcade when making these games


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[ILLSmak]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

I definitely don't understand why they chose to do it. During the qualifier, we played a few and smashed a bunch of teams by 20, but I doubt we would have made it if people are feeding each other wins. We beat a bunch of undefeated (altho you know most teams had only played like 4 games) teams, too.

I really expected it to be a longer thing and to pool into more than just 16 teams. That's a really small number considering what the prize is as well as the fact that in v good team vs v good team, it can go either way a lot if you slip up.

I was hoping it would have a more like ncaa sized bracket but with a lot more qualifying. I don't believe my squad can win (cuz life isn't so convenient), but I would like to think we could make it or at least have a time where we had a chance to make it. The way things are now, I think I'll just play to win games.

It should take everything into account: record, teammate grade, team composition... I dunno, it's disappointing.

I am not super mad at 'cheese' because it's all cheesy. The issue is balance. Don't make things that are easier to do than to stop. You have to be good to stop a fast break after a crazy outlet, but all you have to do is instapress icon pass then pg icon to start one.

Same with ridic cross over moves that people do without thinking where they are going.

It's not too late to change the method, 2k!

That being said (making a long post) I really think if we had to pick archetypes to run with and they all had their own strengths and weaknesses, even if you had to buy in for 15 or 20 bucks (that's all I'd ever spend on VC, usually on my 2nd guy), I think people would do it. 2k has the frame-work for a good bball sim (really) but they need to limit these overbadged myplayers. Not to mention... why can't you get upgrades and badges playing online? Why are people rewarded for playing rookie and fouling out of games? If I get 50 deflected passes online, I should get interceptor... even if it's 100, it's still better.

Makes no sense.

-Smak

[Rain723]

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[Kurupt_XxX]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

yeah the system is stupid. NO point in trying if you know that even when you qualify it's going to be boring playing vs full court passing center and corner three cheesers. No resemblance of real basketball at all.

[Da_Czar]

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For the guys saying this is how they want pro am, and this e sports thing, you're absolutely right.

You don't think 2K knows people are playing the game using these cheese tactics and exploits? They're fully well aware of this and they don't care.

Just a heads up, pro am and park will probably be the same way next year, and the year after that, and the year after that. If you were one of those people who complained all year about online play, get ready to "waste" your 60 bucks on 2K17 and start the complain train all over again.

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SMH... BS!

[A6_Foul_Out]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

SMH... BS!

... Not very encouraging from somebody who is supposed to have a say in the process? Something?

I mean, 'real ballers do it in the park' right? You ought have the ability to take feedback from the community to bring it to that team's attention right?

...

[RusDids29]

Re: NBA 2K16 Road to the Finals Qualification System Rewards Best Cheesers, Not Best

SMH... BS!

Czar, you gotta talk to the team about extending offensive 3 seconds through baseline out of bounds. It's in the rule book of the nba if u want reference. This will stop paint campers from coming underneath for easy off rebs. Also, research the post entry pass to these bigs who just stand underneath the rim and the guard just RB LB to them for an easy catch and dunk or layup. Defense doesn't have an opportunity to knock that down. Ball goes through our bodies or animation pass is always 90% successful. The pass in the paint is the hardest pass to make in the nba. Way to easy right now in 2k

[MontanaMan]

SMH... BS!

I'm sure you can't get into specifics because of NDAs and what not, but he's right.

You guys need to show and prove. The game and the Park specifically seems almost catered to cheesers.

3 seconds in the key that are more like 6 seconds, speed burst animation abuse etc

Which hasn't been addressed in any of the 5 patches since the games release...