NBA 2K16's Latest Shooting Update Has Made 3-Pointers Too Easy in Pro-Am

[hanzsomehanz]

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77 consecutive is incredible - idc what the action is: layups, dunks, free throws, 3s, bench pressing 100 pounds - it's all activity and you can easily tire out from the high reps.

Anyhow, I don't know what the reason for posting the video was. I don't expect to make 77 open consecutive 3s with Curry when left wide open. He hasn't proven to be able to do this in game either.



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[loso_34]

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uh...I think you underestimate how good NBA players are at shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaRT76N6-k4

you just validated his point. 77/100.

he said maybe 60,65,75 but not 97/100.

you just showed a vid where the greatest shooter of all time went 77/100.

[ViolenceFight]

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you just validated his point. 77/100.

he said maybe 60,65,75 but not 97/100.

you just showed a vid where the greatest shooter of all time went 77/100.

In PRACTICE, by the way. That's the disconnect a lot of people are having and not understanding.

In practice you are loose, comfortable, and able to focus 100% on your shot.

In an actual game, and I can tell you this from experience(Shooter in highschool), even if you are wide open you have a myriad of other circumstances. Maybe the guy you're guarding has run you up and down the court. You're tired, your ribs still hurt from getting nailed with a hard screen, Did you leave the oven on?, I'm wide open, is everyone on the other team visible? No one's running out on me. Okay, just like practice. Man my wrist hurts from the foul last play. Etc. Etc.

There's more to shooting that being guarded or open. Anything can disrupt your rhythm. Everything adds to Ever wonder why being hot is sometimes referred to as being "In the zone"? You're literally in your own state of Zen. All you hear is the game, all you see is the game, all you feel is the game. There are no outside stimuli, just focus.

Pyschobabble aside, my point is this: hitting 77 out of 100, or 77 consecutive in practice is amazing. That is almost never going to transfer to an in game scenario. Too many variables in an actual game.

I'm going to repeat a previous post: User timing on releases is skill based to an extent, however, TRUE skill is knowing how to cut, fake, get open and find a good look. Actual basketball skill should trump the ability to know when to let a button go.

[Jax08]

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Flip side of every coin.

It's a video game. So people should be PUNISHED for taking wide open shots. Wouldn't you prefer a more realistic "situational sim" --> wide open = success rate goes up way more often than not from a good shooter. Otherwise, what's the point of taking wide open shots if it's only going to be decided by the CPU what shot% they want you to shoot. It takes more skill out of the user's hands, it makes things more scripted, it doesn't punish bad defense like it should, it doesn't reward good basketball to create and take open shots. If Steph and Klay are leaved wide open every game (like some bad Pro-Am defenses do), for sure their % WOULD go up. Pro-Am isn't the NBA, because the humans behind the players make more mental mistakes that cause worse defense. More importantly, it should be about simulating "basketball situations" that are realistic instead of basing too much on NBA-like shot %'s.

[Jax08]

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It's a video game. So people should be PUNISHED for taking wide open shots * ?

[ViolenceFight]

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Flip side of every coin.

It's a video game. So people should be PUNISHED for taking wide open shots. Wouldn't you prefer a more realistic "situational sim" --> wide open = success rate goes up way more often than not from a good shooter. Otherwise, what's the point of taking wide open shots if it's only going to be decided by the CPU what shot% they want you to shoot. It takes more skill out of the user's hands, it makes things more scripted, it doesn't punish bad defense like it should, it doesn't reward good basketball to create and take open shots. If Steph and Klay are leaved wide open every game (like some bad Pro-Am defenses do), for sure their % WOULD go up. Pro-Am isn't the NBA, because the humans behind the players make more mental mistakes that cause worse defense. More importantly, it should be about simulating "basketball situations" that are realistic instead of basing too much on NBA-like shot %'s.

The game vs. The Lakers Klay and Steph took a multitude of wide open shots, and ended with a horrible percentage. You're NOT punished for a wide open shot, it's not guaranteed, but it's certainly the highest percentage look you will get in this game. This game operates on situational simulation, which is that a wide open shot is the best you can take. The difference is that to you, it should be automatic "Just because", and to me I understand that wide open is still never guaranteed.

This once again is the disconnect. The video game argument is flawed and invalid, because by that logic why can I not posterize everyone? If my dunk is 99, and I have all the badges, I should automatically throw it down every drive right?

Or is that not realistic enough? Are we going to try to say realism doesn't apply to one aspect, but then argue that in my situation it should not happen? How far do we push this?

What I'm saying is this: wide open should be high percentage (it is already). It should absolutely not be automatic.

[Sundown]

NBA 2K16's Latest Shooting Update Has Made 3-Pointers Too Easy in Pro-Am

It's a video game. So people should be PUNISHED for taking wide open shots * ?

Wide open shots are not punished. They are rewarded with the highest probability of success. They are a better option than all other shots.

You seem to have an unrealistic expectation of the reward for wide open shots that doesn't reflect reality or how a simulation basketball game should play.

[Cavani161]

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Just played a game and boy....this pg and sg were raining down 3's on us even when the guys on my team were up in their face, they didn't miss one three. It's all I've seen though is everyone shooting 3's, barely see any post play.

[Jrocc23]

NBA 2K16's Latest Shooting Update Has Made 3-Pointers Too Easy in Pro-Am

The threes are definitely easier. I am telling you, the people that complained about missing open shots just cannot shoot, doesn't know what a open shot is, not a good enough rating, cold zones or something. Plain and simple. And most are still complaining lol.

Ever since the game has been out people have been able to knock down 3s. If I was wide open, I am going to knock down better than 50% from anywhere on the court easily since 2K16 released. I just hate Mike Wang gives into all the complainers on Twitter because most of those dudes complaining I bet is the randoms you play w/ that shoot stupid shots and be in the mic saying 2K is cheating them. Just doesn't make no sense to me that ever since the game has been out its been people that's been able to drain wide open and not so wide open shots. For people to act like shooting has been broken. Why were those guys able to shoot so well then?

This is much better than the +5 boost though. But I am raining 3s. If I am open, I am surprised if my shot isn't green. And it's just not really a thing I can give anyone credit for anymore. You used to have to know how to shoot and etc now anyone can. I am sure we all had that friend or random that just couldn't shoot. But now, those same people for me is now raining 3s. But hey, I say leave it alone now finally.

[FutureFame]

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Thought I was the only one cashing out lately!

[Jrocc23]

NBA 2K16's Latest Shooting Update Has Made 3-Pointers Too Easy in Pro-Am

Thought I was the only one cashing out lately!

Nah. 2K bumped the shooting up because people said they were missing too many open shots.

I am dropping almost 10 and 3 a game now as a balanced PG.

[Jax08]

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Wide open shots are not punished. They are rewarded with the highest probability of success. They are a better option than all other shots.

You seem to have an unrealistic expectation of the reward for wide open shots that doesn't reflect reality or how a simulation basketball game should play.

Except that wasn't my point at all... I wasn't making a blanket statement, my point was you can't always conclude something isn't sim if it doesn't match NBA shot %, because it's different dynamics. Defenses play better defense in the NBA than pro-am teams play, etc.

[hanzsomehanz]

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Except that wasn't my point at all... I wasn't making a blanket statement, my point was you can't always conclude something isn't sim if it doesn't match NBA shot %, because it's different dynamics. Defenses play better defense in the NBA than pro-am teams play, etc.

Do you still feel you and your teammates and your opponents are being punished for taking wide open shots?

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[hanzsomehanz]

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Open shots are clanking again at a high rate in Park 😤

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[Yesh2kdone]

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Open shots are clanking again at a high rate in Park 😤

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Noticed this. Please 2k pick a set of sliders and stick with them. Park is a complete bust this year.