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  • jfsolo
    Live Action, please?
    • May 2003
    • 12965

    #1

    Take-Two Interactive & Visual Concepts Sued By Tattoo Artists


    Some of the tattoos seen on LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kenyon Martin, DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe are getting Take-Two Interactive and Visual Concepts into some hot water. Based off of articles from ESPN (Darren Rovell) and The HollyWoodReporter (Eriq Gardner), the makers of the NBA 2K series are getting sued for $1.1 million, because Solid Oak Sketches claims the tattoos are their copyrighted work.

    Worried that they might be party to a lawsuit, the NFL Players Association told players in 2014 that, in order for their tattoos to be represented on merchandise, including video games, they needed to get waivers from the artists.

    This is one of the main reasons other companies don't put tattoos in their game. Getting permission from the tattoo artist can take quite a bit of time. The Madden team had to go through that process to get the tattoos for Colin Kaepernick (Madden NFL 15) and Odell Beckham, Jr. (Madden NFL 16) in the game.

    In a demand letter to Take-Two before the lawsuit was filed, an attorney for the plaintiff took the $22,500 award to Escobedo, and using information about NBA 2K16 sales, calculated that the value for the eight tattoos should be $572,000. But there was also the matter that two of LeBron James tattoos were featured on the cover of the videogame. According to the letter, "Given that those two tattoos are 'the face' of the 2014 game, their marketing and promotion value is, conservatively, at least four times the value of the rest of the tattoos."

    Thus, the claimed value of using all of the tattoo designs in question allegedly equals $819,500. That tattoo design company offered a perpetual license for a fee of $1,144,000.

    You can read the full complaint at The Hollywood Reporter.
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  • redsox4evur
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2013
    • 18169

    #2
    Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

    8 tattoos could cost them 1.1 million...
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    • Mbunn1993
      Pro
      • Nov 2012
      • 870

      #3
      Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

      Originally posted by redsox4evur
      8 tattoos could cost them 1.1 million...
      Pocket change for them

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      • jvalverde88
        Moderator
        • Jun 2008
        • 11786

        #4
        Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

        Originally posted by Mbunn1993
        Pocket change for them
        Not when in comes to making the NBA 2K.
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        • Junior Moe
          MVP
          • Jul 2009
          • 3856

          #5
          Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

          Damn! I love NBA2K but right is right. Should have just paid the 1.1 and got their license and permission.

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          • NINJAK2
            *S *dd*ct
            • Jan 2003
            • 6185

            #6
            Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

            This is sad development imo. This could be the start of tattoos being removed from players entirely for 2k17. Paying for rights to: the NBA, Shoe comepanies, Retired NBA players, Euroleague, and now tats. These games are getting as expensive as hell..2k would have to get authorization or pay for every tattoo featured on these players? Would this be the same for NBA Live?
            Last edited by NINJAK2; 02-01-2016, 08:48 PM.
            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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            • KingMansaMusa
              Rookie
              • Dec 2015
              • 259

              #7
              Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

              Originally posted by NINJAK2
              This is sad development imo. This may be the start of tattoos being removed from players entirely for 2k17. Paying for rights to: the NBA, Shoe comepanies, Retired NBA players, Euroleague, and now tats. These games are getting as expensive as hell..
              Aye let them deal with it, I have no sympathy for these companies, you think they don't know everything their doing.

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              • TheDuggler
                Pro
                • Sep 2012
                • 728

                #8
                Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                Tattoo artist Victor Escobedo was awarded $22,500 for his lion tattoo that was portrayed on UFC fighter Carlos Condit without his permission in THQ's "UFC Undisputed" game. Escobedo had originally asked for $4.1 million.
                Don't overreact just yet


                This is just a money grab, as if they are suffering any damages from this realistically

                Its kind of nuts to say that a tattoo artists owns the likeness of a tattoo placed on someones body. I wonder if the NBA has to get special permission every time an athlete gets a new tat. That would be a nightmare for them, these guys have thousands of tattoos from different artists.
                Last edited by TheDuggler; 02-01-2016, 08:50 PM.

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                • Chargers_Are_The_Bes
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1447

                  #9
                  Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                  Originally posted by KingMansaMusa
                  Aye let them deal with it, I have no sympathy for these companies, you think they don't know everything their doing.

                  Yeah you right lol They'll definitely be alright. They got Mafia III coming out soon so they'll be good


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                  • NINJAK2
                    *S *dd*ct
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 6185

                    #10
                    Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                    Believe me King I will let them deal with it. It's not like I'm donating my money to the cause..lol. Just think it could be sad if Lebron or whomever is tattoo-less in the game because said artist refused to give permission and/or wanted thousands of bucks..
                    EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                    • KingMansaMusa
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 259

                      #11
                      Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                      Originally posted by NINJAK2
                      Believe me King I will let them deal with it. It's not like I'm donating my money to the cause..lol. Just think it could be sad if Lebron or whomever is tattoo-less in the game because said artist refused to give permission and/or wanted thousands of bucks..
                      Well seeing he's the most popular player in the galaxy I'm sure they'll make sure to get everything right.

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #12
                        Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                        Originally posted by redsox4evur
                        8 tattoos could cost them 1.1 million...
                        2K17...Unlock LeBron wrist tattoo = 1.1M VC

                        SMH if 2K spent that tattoo money on Spike Lee

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                        • redsox4evur
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 18169

                          #13
                          Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                          Originally posted by TheDuggler
                          Don't overreact just yet


                          This is just a money grab, as if they are suffering any damages from this realistically

                          Its kind of nuts to say that a tattoo artists owns the likeness of a tattoo placed on someones body. I wonder if the NBA has to get special permission every time an athlete gets a new tat. That would be a nightmare for them, these guys have thousands of tattoos from different artists.
                          Yes they do have to get the permission from every artist when a player gets a new tat. And if you follow Madden you should know this is a given. And 2K is going to lose this case. And it's like any other work of art except it's on someone instead of a canvas or something else.
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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #14
                            Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                            How long until dudes start suing over their patented haircuts/styles?....Paul George's squiggly part going to start costing extra $ too?

                            talk about letting them deal with it until players start missing ****...we should be rooting for a ruling that doesn't stifle authenticity IMO

                            Hope this is one of those one off things that is settled and done with....
                            Last edited by The 24th Letter; 02-01-2016, 09:15 PM.

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                            • TheDuggler
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 728

                              #15
                              Re: Makers of NBA2K sued for using players' tattoos without permission

                              Originally posted by redsox4evur
                              Yes they do have to get the permission from every artist when a player gets a new tat. And if you follow Madden you should know this is a given. And 2K is going to lose this case. And it's like any other work of art except it's on someone instead of a canvas or something else.
                              So every time a player gets a new tat the NBA has to get permission from the artist to broadcast them on TV? What if LeBron gets a new tat and the artist says no? Are they going to make him cover it up/not play?

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