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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance


    It appears EA's other football game will find itself in hot water soon over the exact same issues that NCAA Football was plagued by: the use of likenesses of former players which are a little to close to reality.

    In the lawsuit, former NFL players said the Madden NFL game had players with their exact characteristics, but EA had not obtained their permission to use the figures.

    "We hold EA's use of the former players' likenesses is not incidental because it is central to EA's main commercial purpose - to create a realistic virtual simulation of football games involving current and former NFL teams," Circuit Judge Raymond Fisher wrote in the opinion.

    "Like NCAA Football, Madden NFL replicates players' physical characteristics and allows users to manipulate them in the performance of the same activity for which they are known in real life - playing football for an NFL team," Fisher wrote in his commentary.

    On a tangible level, this suit doesn't pose much of a risk to the Madden brand as a whole, as unlike NCAA Football, the Madden brand is both bigger and not tied to the use of likenesses in this manner to succeed. So whatever comes out of this will be a payday for players used in the game, but will not affect business as usual from going on.

    We'll be following the case though, as it could reaffirm the time-old tradition of using likenesses without the names as something which is no longer a viable option. This would all but eliminate the use of non-licensed historical teams in sports games.
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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #2
    Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

    Lawyers will be the end of civilization
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    • rudeworld
      Rookie
      • Nov 2003
      • 257

      #3
      Originally posted by ODogg
      Lawyers will be the end of civilization
      They keep the crooks and thieves in line. EA knowingly put these players likeliness into the game and they knew they should pay them.... But didn't. PAY THEM then see if you can recover from the hit.

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      • FaceMask
        Banned
        • Oct 2013
        • 847

        #4
        Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

        Originally posted by rudeworld
        They keep the crooks and thieves in line. EA knowingly put these players likeliness into the game and they knew they should pay them.... But didn't. PAY THEM then see if you can recover from the hit.
        That's often true, but sadly it's also often true that they are the crooks and thieves that need to be kept in line.

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        • capa
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 5321

          #5
          Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

          Classic roster makers will fill the gaps...unless they start coming after us!!



          C

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          • Rewmac
            Rookie
            • Oct 2012
            • 237

            #6
            Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

            Originally posted by capa
            Classic roster makers will fill the gaps...unless they start coming after us!!



            C
            Everything can be elevated to a new level. They can just remove roster sharing as step. I hope nothing like this will come to reality.
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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #7
              Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

              I was surprised to hear the class in this lawsuit is approximately 6000 players. Which Maddens combined had 6000 unique unlicensed players?

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              • NimitsTexan
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 806

                #8
                I was under the impression that EA had an agreement with the NFLPA that allows it to use player's likenesses? Is this just the handful of union hold-outs suing?

                I had not even noticed any "fake" players in recent version of Madden . . .

                Regardless, I am curious how far this precedent is going to go. I mean, if an author writes a book about a football player, is the player then automatically entitled to a cut?
                Last edited by NimitsTexan; 01-07-2015, 07:53 PM.

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #9
                  Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                  Originally posted by mestevo
                  I was surprised to hear the class in this lawsuit is approximately 6000 players. Which Maddens combined had 6000 unique unlicensed players?
                  Yea I have no clue unless their using a total throughout the start of Madden games but it still seems high to me unless I missed a mode somewhere over the years.

                  Originally posted by NimitsTexan
                  I was under the impression that EA had an agreement with the NFLPA that allows it to use player's likenesses? Is this just the handful of union hold-outs suing?
                  They do, the suit is about former players:

                  The players, including former Los Angeles Rams quarterback Vince Ferragamo, said the Madden NFL game had players with their exact characteristics, but EA had not obtained their permission to use the figures.
                  Ferragamo last played in the NFL in 1980.

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #10
                    Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                    Maybe Ferragamo is upset because his player in Madden played much better than the real life Ferragamo.

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                    • jvalverde88
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 11787

                      #11
                      Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      I was surprised to hear the class in this lawsuit is approximately 6000 players. Which Maddens combined had 6000 unique unlicensed players?
                      All I can think of is the classic teams from the previous Madden games but all those were all generic.
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                      • tbook24
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 93

                        #12
                        only the madden games prior to Madden NFL 95 did not have a license. of those only madden 93 & 94 had classic teams and players. so it would have to be those 2 games

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                        • Gman 18
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2902

                          #13
                          Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                          Originally posted by tbook24
                          only the madden games prior to Madden NFL 95 did not have a license. of those only madden 93 & 94 had classic teams and players. so it would have to be those 2 games
                          If it really is just those 2 games, then this case is complete BS

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #14
                            Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                            Originally posted by tbook24
                            only the madden games prior to Madden NFL 95 did not have a license. of those only madden 93 & 94 had classic teams and players. so it would have to be those 2 games
                            Not sure exactly what you mean by license but if you mean an agreement with the NFLPA then that would mean that every player who appeared in any game before 95 could be involved. Not just those on classic teams.
                            Last edited by kehlis; 01-07-2015, 09:37 PM.

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                            • jvalverde88
                              Moderator
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 11787

                              #15
                              Re: Lawsuit by Former NFL Players Against EA Allowed to Advance

                              "Your honor exhibit A *shows Madden for SNES* as you can clearly see this player looks exactly like one of my clients."
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