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  • BL8001
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 1884

    #331
    Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

    As far as strategy goes, when I first checked mine, fluid formation was off.

    So after turning it on and seeing how much better my team played...

    Is it default off for all CPU teams? If that is the case it would explain the CPU never shifting tactics.

    At the same time, I have seen the CPU play keep away with the ball when they have the lead. So there is some logic in place.

    I do completely agree with dubcity, where are the simple changes?

    When the CPU was playing keep away I wanted to change my tactics to "go get the damn ball" I saw no way to instruct this. It was already set to pressure...

    One other thing, when I have the ball the cpu man marks everyone very closely, if I pass it to another player a cpu defender is on me instantly.

    When the CPU has the ball my players are marking them very loosely, like 4-5 feet away from everyone if not 10 feet away.

    The close proximity for the CPU defending makes it much easier for them to win tackles.

    Meanwhile when I am stood farther away I have to select that player and then manually move him closer to the ball handler.

    FIFA has this issue too and I hate this "one way it works for the cpu one way it works for the human" crap, but I feel like in the PES tactics I may be able to fix this.
    resident curmudgeon

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    • RoyceDa59
      Chillin
      • Aug 2003
      • 3830

      #332
      Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by BL8001
      As far as strategy goes, when I first checked mine, fluid formation was off.

      So after turning it on and seeing how much better my team played...

      Is it default off for all CPU teams? If that is the case it would explain the CPU never shifting tactics.

      At the same time, I have seen the CPU play keep away with the ball when they have the lead. So there is some logic in place.

      I do completely agree with dubcity, where are the simple changes?

      When the CPU was playing keep away I wanted to change my tactics to "go get the damn ball" I saw no way to instruct this. It was already set to pressure...

      One other thing, when I have the ball the cpu man marks everyone very closely, if I pass it to another player a cpu defender is on me instantly.

      When the CPU has the ball my players are marking them very loosely, like 4-5 feet away from everyone if not 10 feet away.

      The close proximity for the CPU defending makes it much easier for them to win tackles.

      Meanwhile when I am stood farther away I have to select that player and then manually move him closer to the ball handler.

      FIFA has this issue too and I hate this "one way it works for the cpu one way it works for the human" crap, but I feel like in the PES tactics I may be able to fix this.
      I believe it is default off for CPU teams but I have to check. I does stink that you can't choose to start pressing a team on the fly weird that they had it other games for there series but took it out here. You can only, from my knowledge, play the offside trap on the fly and adjust your D-Line to press high or drop deep by using the D-Pad.

      Any who, I find fluid formation to be a great feature that lets the teams play even closer to their real life counterpart. However I do just feel like Konami dropped the ball a little on game logic which is something they did really well in the past iterations. Example would be when you are down 3-1 and I score that goal to bring me 1 goal down. I don't want to see my player celebrating, he needs to be grabbing the ball out of the net and returning it to the middle of the pitch. Also only utilizing two formation types is a miss, especially when they should have had formations for every type of scenario like they did in the past. One for when the game is tied, in the lead, or behind.

      Still with all of its problems it is still a great game, probably one of most enjoyable footy games from a gameplay standpoint but I really hope they get some one these annoyances fixed soon.

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #333
        Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

        Ok I think I figured out what made the cpu pressure me so early.

        Frontline Pressure setting. Forechecking sort of.

        Just read about it today and need to check Ludogorets to see if it is on for them.
        resident curmudgeon

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        • xicpanad
          Pro
          • Sep 2008
          • 579

          #334
          Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by BL8001
          Ok I think I figured out what made the cpu pressure me so early.

          Frontline Pressure setting. Forechecking sort of.

          Just read about it today and need to check Ludogorets to see if it is on for them.
          You should check their positioning while defending also. If you choose to press high but then position your players deep in the defensive tactic, they will always wait for the CPU. I find the only way to play against deep possession teams is making a defensive tactic with my players higher in the pitch, almost with no diference between attacking and defensive position. This way, if they loose the ball, they will start defending immediatly in the opponent´s half.
          It´s just a job - Fifa 16 Career Mode

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          • BL8001
            MVP
            • Jul 2010
            • 1884

            #335
            Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

            Thanks.

            Frontline pressure was on for them.

            Strangely fluid formation was off. I went through the prem and la liga and fluid formation was on for every team I checked.
            resident curmudgeon

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            • Cavani161
              Rookie
              • Dec 2011
              • 158

              #336
              Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

              Doing a Master League with Atletico Madrid, just seeing how I can build this team up even more. I got Juan Mata, paid a hefty price for him while also giving away Gabi. Running a 4-2-3-1 with Mata plugged in the middle at AMF and on his debut right now he has 2 goals. He's setting up everyone with his vision and passing. I had a chance to get Reus but I opted for Mata due to his creativity. I love it in this game where you can put certain players on teams and see a transformation happen.

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              • LingeringRegime
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 17089

                #337
                Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                Since the PSN was down I finished my second season in Master League. Such a blast. I got fired, then I started coaching Burnley (they got relegated into the Sky Bet Champions League) the first half of the season I really struggled. My approval rating was 15. Then, in desperation mode I switched up my formations, play style, support strength, etc.

                Team started reeling off wins during the second half of the season by years end my approval rate was 100 and finished 9th. Got some other offers from teams to leave but decided to stay with Burnley. I quit coaching Venezuela as a national team coach, and bolted for North Korea.

                Can't wait to start season 3.

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                • half-fast
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 857

                  #338
                  Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                  Anyone else having problems logging into PES servers now that PSN is up again?
                  TB Lightning | Liverpool | Panathinaikos | Toronto FC

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                  • demencia_total
                    No Way
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 697

                    #339
                    Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                    Is there any way to edit the camera views on PC? I see mods for the previous games but none for 2015. I love the Fan View, but I want to zoom it in a bit and it would be absolutely perfect for me.

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                    • BL8001
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1884

                      #340
                      Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                      I just love that the cpu attacks and shoots.

                      They dont all go on goal too, it feels nicely organic to me with some howlers coming at the right time and some nice controlled shots at other times.

                      Need that patch that gets the cpu crossing game more active. I get games with almost none and then have a game with 3 or 4 cpu crosses at most.

                      Still enjoying this game.
                      Last edited by BL8001; 01-18-2015, 04:24 PM. Reason: Edited the word tome to time
                      resident curmudgeon

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                      • TerryP
                        Pro
                        • May 2003
                        • 623

                        #341
                        Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                        Enjoying the PS4 version but sure missing option files. Any site recommendations for PS3 or Xbox 360 option files? Does anyone know if there are any more stadiums in the last gen versions?

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                        • BL8001
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1884

                          #342
                          Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                          Here is another thing I like, and this comes straight from going back and playing some fifa 15 matches.

                          In pes, your lofted passes contextually contain the right amount of backspin, the exact same kind you see when you watch the sport.

                          This has been a giant wtf in fifa games for so long. Its why the ball in that game over topspins and either goes out harmlessly for a gk or it goes to the keeper. Its not pitch friction that is the fifa issue its actual spin on the ball that soccer/futbol players apply to their lofted passes.

                          As soon as I went back to fifa I missed the ability to play this commonly occuring pass so much, instantly.

                          Konami gets this and makes it auto occur when it should. This works and works well.

                          I would like to be able to influence the spin in some way but with both games switching you to the target man it cant be hold LS the opposite direction.

                          As it stands, for me at least, pes allows me to do more correct futbol things with the ball than fifa does.
                          resident curmudgeon

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                          • demencia_total
                            No Way
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 697

                            #343
                            Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                            I think I'm done with this game, the Master League broken stats ruined it for me. I just don't feel like playing 5 minute halves just to get more realistic scores. Its absurd that such a thing hasn't been fixed (at least on PC).

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                            • RoyceDa59
                              Chillin
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 3830

                              #344
                              Re: PES 2015 Available Now, Day One Patch Details - Post Your Impressions Here

                              So I have a PS4 now but scared to even play the demo for this to compare it the PS3 version I already have; plus I like having option files what shall I do haha.

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