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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie


    Things are bad when you’re practically begging for the CPU to put up a stop.

    It was the 12th time that drive I had run the same play: HB Dive right up the center. My Eagles had a significant lead, and I wanted the opposing defense to force me to pass the ball. As you may have already guessed, that never came to fruition.

    On that 12th play, LeSean McCoy cruised into the endzone for a touchdown. Why was it so easy? Because despite my repetition in the playcalling, the CPU refused to stack the box. Better yet, they would often spread their defensive line in a QB contain. Why? Why wouldn’t they try and stop me, when I’m making it so very easy for them?

    The answer is simple: Madden’s AI doesn’t adapt. This is more prevalent in the playcalling than anywhere else, and it’s especially noticeable as the game carries on. No matter the score, no matter the time left on the clock, the CPU fails to adapt defensively.

    What a shame it is, that in the year 2014 we still have to abide by house rules and dumb ourselves down to the CPU’s level.

    It’s 2014, and Madden’s AI is still wrong.
    OS Executive Editor
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  • charter04
    Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
    • May 2010
    • 5740

    #2
    Is that on All pro or All Madden?
    www.twitch.tv/charter04

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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    • kjcheezhead
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 3118

      #3
      Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

      Originally posted by charter04
      Is that on All pro or All Madden?
      Honestly, he ran hb dive 12 times in a row. Should it really matter if it's on all pro or all madden? What makes it worse it that EA touts adaptive ai as a new feature seemingly every year.

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      • Gorilla Glass
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 1139

        #4
        That's funny because if I run the same run play continuously, my running backs cough up the ball.

        Maybe the game is different for lower tiered teams.

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        • mike24forever
          Old Guy
          • Sep 2003
          • 3168

          #5
          If only my WR would fight for balls thrown to them. I play in the S.O.S. League and we don't switch when the ball is in the air, and they look like deer in headlights watching CB's and SS's catching the ball.
          I am the lesson after the fall.

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          • charter04
            Tecmo Super Bowl = GOAT
            • May 2010
            • 5740

            #6
            Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

            Originally posted by kjcheezhead
            Honestly, he ran hb dive 12 times in a row. Should it really matter if it's on all pro or all madden? What makes it worse it that EA touts adaptive ai as a new feature seemingly every year.

            It matters because when I play on all madden it seems like the CPU knows what I'm running a lot of times. It is still messed up. The CPU doesn't adjust enough and aren't "smart". I play most of my games against humans in a OL CFM so I don't have to deal with most of the worst stuff.
            Last edited by charter04; 11-21-2014, 01:44 AM. Reason: Came across rude
            www.twitch.tv/charter04

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPW...59SqVtXXFQVknw

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            • Jarodd21
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2010
              • 10556

              #7
              Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

              It adapts to almost everything else besides running plays up the middle. For some reason the DTs won't shed any blocks against the run up the middle. They shed blocks up the middle against passes.. I'm hoping to see one last patch to address that issue and the USER pass coverage.
              https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

              PSN: Jarodd21

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              • BadAssHskr
                XSX
                • Jun 2003
                • 3499

                #8
                Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

                I dont know, but im basically toast aftet that Chiefs game.....
                "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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                • Fist Of Kings
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 793

                  #9
                  Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

                  A major problem that I feel is overlooked mainly because of how bad the qb sack issue is, but I feel it's just as game breaking. When I first got the game, I thought it was 'tough' to run, mainly because I did mostly inside runs where defenders would make tackles through their blocks, or gaping wholes closed as soon as I accelerated. But the ai couldn't handle outside runs, especially in a 2 te set.

                  It was an easy 150 yards a game. If defense worked properly, I would have to mix up my playcalling, but instead in this game I would purposely 'mix' it up with inside runs just to help out the ai. So now we're dealing with highly accurate robo qbs across the board, yet they even nullify that by taking sack after sack, killing their own drives so they struggle to score. Then on defense they can't even make basic adjustments, so they give up a lot of points, meaning that for us offline players we're dealing with a broken game that is too easy and you have to house rule yourself, and even then it's not enough.

                  I shouldn't have to house rule myself with a game that comes out every year and said this was the smartest playing madden ever. 3rd and inches? They're not pinching their lineman. I motion my TE left?(the strength of my O-line) They randomly shift to the right or do nothing despite the obvious disadvantage that the defense is in. They hyped 'new' features like the tackle cone, which is just a tackle prompt and button change to what we had before, while ignoring that this game can't make basic defensive adjustments, even worse that much older football games can.

                  In the link below, they hype the improved ai, but I often saw the opposite, like my defenders swatting balls even though they were in a position to go for the pick.

                  http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/n...e-player-sense

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                  • kingsofthevalley
                    MVP
                    • May 2011
                    • 1953

                    #10
                    I was having this same problem because I really like to play smash mouth, up the gut football. What seems to have worked for me, is the reduction of the Run Block slider. I'm currently set at 15, and might drop it down to 10. Last game I played, I averaged 2-4 yards up the middle with an occasional 6-8

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                    • Blazingheat98
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 6

                      #11
                      I guess it makes you wonder why this piece of crap is "ALWAYS" getting higher scores than it actually deserves...!!! Bring back 2K and end all this EA non-sense!!

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                      • Rabid_Beaver
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 43

                        #12
                        Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

                        Madden has been utter rubbish since 2006.

                        EA has literally destroyed the franchise from a gameplay perspective.

                        Same issues since forever. Pathetic AI. DUMB team management. Useless features. Etc. etc. etc.

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                        • @marcusjiles
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 92

                          #13
                          Wow, you read the NHL roster post, then come read this... It's... maddening lol. How does this happen and nobody has to answer for it?

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                          • BenGerman
                            No Place Better
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2752

                            #14
                            Re: It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

                            Originally posted by charter04
                            Is that on All pro or All Madden?
                            I was playing on All-Madden, at the time. I haven't played enough of All-Pro to know if it makes a difference, but I'll look into it.
                            Writer for Operation Sports

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                            • treq21
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 419

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fist Of Kings
                              A major problem that I feel is overlooked mainly because of how bad the qb sack issue is, but I feel it's just as game breaking. When I first got the game, I thought it was 'tough' to run, mainly because I did mostly inside runs where defenders would make tackles through their blocks, or gaping wholes closed as soon as I accelerated. But the ai couldn't handle outside runs, especially in a 2 te set.

                              It was an easy 150 yards a game. If defense worked properly, I would have to mix up my playcalling, but instead in this game I would purposely 'mix' it up with inside runs just to help out the ai. So now we're dealing with highly accurate robo qbs across the board, yet they even nullify that by taking sack after sack, killing their own drives so they struggle to score. Then on defense they can't even make basic adjustments, so they give up a lot of points, meaning that for us offline players we're dealing with a broken game that is too easy and you have to house rule yourself, and even then it's not enough.

                              I shouldn't have to house rule myself with a game that comes out every year and said this was the smartest playing madden ever. 3rd and inches? They're not pinching their lineman. I motion my TE left?(the strength of my O-line) They randomly shift to the right or do nothing despite the obvious disadvantage that the defense is in. They hyped 'new' features like the tackle cone, which is just a tackle prompt and button change to what we had before, while ignoring that this game can't make basic defensive adjustments, even worse that much older football games can.

                              In the link below, they hype the improved ai, but I often saw the opposite, like my defenders swatting balls even though they were in a position to go for the pick.

                              http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/n...e-player-sense
                              That was all just hype, like it is every year. They also said there would be more innacurate passes from QBs, but we still have robo QB.

                              The game doesnt change that much from year to year, and it hardly ever has.

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