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Old 09-25-2014, 01:39 PM   #225
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Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

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Fatigue is right on the screen. You can see it change in real time as you run with a player. CPU fatigue is on the screen too.
oh right the HUD, I turn that off so I always forget about it. Change their sliders for fatigue if you think it's unbalanced?
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:40 PM   #226
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Just to finish off my point on Emotion:

Just finished my game against Chelsea in my CM, won 2-0. Aaron Lennon scored the clinching goal late in the game, and his reaction to scoring perfectly illustrates what I'm talking about



You can just see the relief and happiness after that ball hits the net. Really makes you feel like the game is alive, rather than just controlling a bunch of robots.

As someone who isn't going to get very worked up about AI (I get my sim experience from Football Manager), this really puts the cherry on top of this game.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:44 PM   #227
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Basically you just retreat until the CPU loses the ball.
One might say though that is not about retreating and it's about blocking the lanes and covering space.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:44 PM   #228
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BL8 - I use World Class at the moment and it's difficult but not quite brutal. With Pro, it's not too easy but I can still eek out nothing but draws and 1-0 victories even against better squads. That's not good enough for me.

In terms of everything you're describing, I agree with you but I'm quickly adopting an attitude of "Gotta take the $hit with the sugar."

In other words, I am absolutely loving the freedom to roam in space a bit with the ball without the CPU tackling the piss out of me. In FIFA 14, the CPU was so efficient/proficient with tackles that I basically hot potato'd the football for 90 minutes. This year, I can move around a bit and punish over-eager CPU defenders with bursts / simple skill moves. If I'm up against skilled CPU defenders (with higher player ratings), then I'm forced to pass the ball. What I'm enjoying is that option though.

On the other hand, the CPU does the exact same thing. If I'm going to lunge in for a tackle, I had better be doing so in the right circumstance and with the right player or I'll be punished. The CPU happens to do a much better job with dribbling and open space than I do but you know what? $%#@ it. It's FIFA. It's always been that way for me. So you're right to a degree. You have to retreat and cut off passing lanes, and that's okay with me, but I don't necessarily agree that tackling is useless. What I tend to do with tackling this year is save it for when I have help. That's why I refuse to use auto switching. I love to play defense with an effective defensive midfielder who can tackle. I'll also tackle if I'm controlling a skilled fullback. Otherwise, I don't touch it. When I do tackle, however, I make sure that I'm covered - e.g. zonal marking where somebody is helping out - otherwise, there's simply too much risk.

All of this is fluid, mind you. I may be totally pissed off at the defending in my next post.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:49 PM   #229
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Another game in my career, another slide tackle fest from the computer. Ended up 3-3 in the end and the game was fun and challenging, but I really wish these would result in more collisions and fouls. Not necessarily cards, just fouls.

I've also been experimenting with the Pass Error at 80 and First Touch Error at 60 for the CPU and I've gotten some decent results, at least to what I qualify to be acceptable. Now the CPU makes mistakes with passes like I do and doesn't control every ball like they all are Messi. They still ping pong around sometimes which sucks, and the errors sometimes end up being really stupid rather than on their ridiculously impossible passes, but at least it gives the game a better flow in my view. This is all in World Class, 15 minute Halves.

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Another game in my career, another slide tackle fest from the computer. Ended up 3-3 in the end and the game was fun and challenging, but I really wish these would result in more collisions and fouls. Not necessarily cards, just fouls.

I've also been experimenting with the Pass Error at 80 and First Touch Error at 60 for the CPU and I've gotten some decent results, at least to what I qualify to be acceptable. Now the CPU makes mistakes with passes like I do and doesn't control every ball like they all are Messi. They still ping pong around sometimes which sucks, and the errors sometimes end up being really stupid rather than on their ridiculously impossible passes, but at least it gives the game a better flow in my view. This is all in World Class, 15 minute Halves.
When you feel or see them slide tackle do one of 3 things. Hold LB and left stick away or Hold LT and left stick away from the tackle or get jiggy on the R stick.

More often than not I have noticed that just proving to the invisible CPU brain that governs all that you were attempting something and the CPU interfered, causes a foul to be called.

But I do agree they slide tackle far too often. With laser precision.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:00 PM   #231
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Another game in my career, another slide tackle fest from the computer. Ended up 3-3 in the end and the game was fun and challenging, but I really wish these would result in more collisions and fouls. Not necessarily cards, just fouls.

I've also been experimenting with the Pass Error at 80 and First Touch Error at 60 for the CPU and I've gotten some decent results, at least to what I qualify to be acceptable. Now the CPU makes mistakes with passes like I do and doesn't control every ball like they all are Messi. They still ping pong around sometimes which sucks, and the errors sometimes end up being really stupid rather than on their ridiculously impossible passes, but at least it gives the game a better flow in my view. This is all in World Class, 15 minute Halves.
does 80 pass error still make the ball bounce and hop?
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:01 PM   #232
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One might say though that is not about retreating and it's about blocking the lanes and covering space.
I agree.

Also I played with Real Madrid the other day and kept constantly pressing and putting the pressure on the AI. The AI (Atlético Madrid) kept losing the ball in their half and I was pretty successful in this. In the 2nd half they brought on Turan and Griezmann and didn't adjust myself in time and got burned for 2 goals.

There are many ways to play defense in this game but you have to adjust to how the AI is playing and who is out there.
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