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  • jyoung
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11132

    #136
    Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

    Originally posted by labelmeoriginal
    So many self-entitled gamers here. Demos don't benefit developers. They never have.
    They might not benefit an annualized game like like Madden, where people already know what they're getting every year, but demos are definitely a huge interest driver for new or unfamiliar franchises, and for games that aren't using a yearly release cycle.

    That is why Microsoft required every XBLA and XBLIG title on the Xbox 360 to include a trial version.

    For a game like Madden that has been coming out every year for more than 25 years, a demo definitely doesn't make as much sense, and probably isn't worth the extra effort to produce.

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    • SageInfinite
      Stop The GOAT Talk
      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #137
      Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

      Originally posted by A_Quiet_Pro
      TBH, if you ask me, things have been going downhill since M06. 09 was a good effort, and 10 was ok, but it started around M06 if you ask me. (The same time they acquired the license, hey look at that).
      Opposite for me. I thought Madden 09 was trash and 10 was the first one I really enjoyed last gen. Hopefully they keep improving this generation at a more rapid pace. Disaapointed with no demo, but there will be more than enough evidence to support a buy or no buy in the next couple of weeks.
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      • Hooe
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 21554

        #138
        Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

        Originally posted by monegames
        pretty sure they created a demo for both E3 and gamescom right? pretty sure either of those would have passed for a pre release demo. no reason for them to not release a demo, except to put it(early access instead of demo) behind a paywall like EA Access.
        Building a tightly controlled demo for a trade show is fundamentally different from building a demo for public consumption. Again drawing from my own experience: at the most basic level, there's no first-party approval process to get the demo app onto the PS Store / XBOX Live Marketplace / whatever digital distribution platforms EA wants to deploy to. On a more detailed level, temporary code can be authored to put a short-term solution into the game to mask a bigger problem, where that temporary code is enough to make the game work and not crash but not a viable long-term solution to the problem.
        Last edited by Hooe; 08-11-2014, 03:51 PM. Reason: I accidentally a word

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        • Sheba2011
          MVP
          • Oct 2013
          • 2353

          #139
          Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

          Originally posted by jyoung
          They might not benefit an annualized game like like Madden, where people already know what they're getting every year, but demos are definitely a huge interest driver for new or unfamiliar franchises, and for games that aren't using a yearly release cycle.

          That is why Microsoft required every XBLA and XBLIG title on the Xbox 360 to include a trial version.

          For a game like Madden that has been coming out every year for more than 25 years, a demo definitely doesn't make as much sense, and probably isn't worth the extra effort to produce.
          There have been some games I bought specifically cause I enjoyed the demo. It can be a big boost for lesser known games/companies. But for Madden CFM is the most important thing to me and a demo is next to useless for that.

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          • Sheba2011
            MVP
            • Oct 2013
            • 2353

            #140
            Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            Building a tightly controlled demo for a trade show is fundamentally different from building a demo for public consumption. Again drawing from my own experience: at the most basic level, there's no first-party approval process to get the demo app onto the PS Store / XBOX Live Marketplace / whatever digital distribution platforms EA wants to deploy to. On a more detailed level, temporarily code can be authored to put a short-term solution into the game to mask a bigger problem, where that temporary code is enough to make the game work and not crash but not a viable long-term solution to the problem.
            This really has nothing to do with Demo's but out of curiosity did you design games in the past or do some work on that level? Seems like you have a good technical knowledge of how it all works.

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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21554

              #141
              Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

              Originally posted by Sheba2011
              This really has nothing to do with Demo's but out of curiosity did you design games in the past or do some work on that level? Seems like you have a good technical knowledge of how it all works.
              I don't want to derail the thread too much, so I'll answer in brief - I'm a professional software developer for an independent video game studio in Richmond VA. If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me.

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              • leathrneck34
                Rookie
                • Jul 2012
                • 238

                #142
                Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                While I don't need a demo to help me decide if I am going to purchase Madden every year, it is something I look forward too. Especially when they are changing things like the presentation, and the player models. Plus it personally gives me something to play until it releases instead of playing 25.

                I want to get a feel for the gameplay and see how I feel about the new additions to the game this year. Plus without a new Ncaa game this year I was kinda looking forward to playing Madden demo a couple weeks early.

                And since Sony decided we PS4 owners didn't need to " Bow to the MAN" and pay EA to play games early. We kinda get the crap end of the stick unless we want to go out and fork over 400 or more to Microsoft, just to try out Madden 15 before release like other's have the opportunity to do.

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                • canes21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22789

                  #143
                  Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                  No demo almost means no purchase for me. I'll stick with The Show. I might read impressions a month after release when everyone is more liable to tell the truth unlike the first coupe weeks. I definitely am not planning on buying it now. If a demo had been released and was enjoyable, EA would've gained a sale potentially.
                  “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                  ― Plato

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                  • Hooe
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 21554

                    #144
                    Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                    This from Polygon:

                    Originally posted by Polygon
                    While EA initially declined to comment on the reasons for the lack of a Madden 15 demo, an EA representative reached out to Polygon after the publication of this story with the following statement to provide some additional context: "The difficult decision not to do a demo for Madden was strictly a result of the team's commitment to deliver the highest-quality game possible. We chose to put 100 percent of our development resources toward the full game."

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                    • DirkJesusNowitzki
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 94

                      #145
                      Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                      Have they announced exactly what is in the Madden 15 trial for EA Access?

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #146
                        Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        No demo almost means no purchase for me. I'll stick with The Show. I might read impressions a month after release when everyone is more liable to tell the truth unlike the first coupe weeks. I definitely am not planning on buying it now. If a demo had been released and was enjoyable, EA would've gained a sale potentially.

                        Renting not an option?

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                        • A_Quiet_Pro
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 2572

                          #147
                          Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                          Originally posted by canes21
                          No demo almost means no purchase for me. I'll stick with The Show. I might read impressions a month after release when everyone is more liable to tell the truth unlike the first coupe weeks. I definitely am not planning on buying it now. If a demo had been released and was enjoyable, EA would've gained a sale potentially.
                          Hows this man? I'm not one to sugarcoat things and say their good when they're not, but I'm also not a basher and an EA ***** just because. For the most part, if I'm gonna throw an impression out there, it'll be legit. I'm getting the game day one digital, already paid in full. I'll play it some. (couple 2, 3 days) and I'll personally let you know. Now, I'm not a critic, so I won't be uber focused on EVERY detail the game offers; Looking for minutia. And there's modes I dont play (like CFM actually), but as far as core gameplay goes, I'll check it out for you.

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                          • A_Quiet_Pro
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 2572

                            #148
                            Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                            Originally posted by CM Hooe
                            This from Polygon:
                            Now this is a good sign. Let's hope it comes to fruition. (Wow, I thought the rest of the text would show, lol). hmmm

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                            • spidertour02
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 449

                              #149
                              Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                              Originally posted by Sheba2011
                              There have been some games I bought specifically cause I enjoyed the demo. It can be a big boost for lesser known games/companies. But for Madden CFM is the most important thing to me and a demo is next to useless for that.
                              Me too. In fact, I got into an entire EA franchise because of a demo -- Skate.

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26338

                                #150
                                Re: CONFIRMED: No Madden NFL 15 Demo

                                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                                This from Polygon:
                                IE; Possible translation, we've been losing money over the years, let's not count the demo for our upcoming budget with the man hours invested until we start seeing more positive sales numbers.

                                Possible translation only.

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