Madden NFL 15: Top Rookies

[bcruise]

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Lol at Taylor Lewan. 6'7" 215 lbs.

.... Whoops.

Guessing that'll be fixed in an update, but since H/W don't really mean anything in Madden I guess he wouldn't play any differently.

[ggsimmonds]

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Ratings are too high.

I see myself doing what I do most years and lowering quite a few rookies. And just like every other year, I will cook up some lame justification as to why no Ravens need to be lowered.

Feels good to be a homer :P

[yardz23]

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Exciting!

Feel a little miffed that you can click the video showing footage of manziel and Bridgewater that says "more ratings" but when you click on it you get the same ratings in the video, and there's no actual second video.

Not cool!!

[LBzrule]

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Ratings are too high.

I see myself doing what I do most years and lowering quite a few rookies. And just like every other year, I will cook up some lame justification as to why no Ravens need to be lowered.

Feels good to be a homer :P

And they don't need to be. If anything I thought CJ Mosley would be on the list with a tie with someone. But he's not even on the list. If I'm watching College Football it's hard for me to believe (and I'm not taking anything away from these guys) Bortles, Martin, and even Clinton Dix is going to get mentioned before Mosley. But it's whatever.

[DCEBB2001]

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I think some rare talents can come in and have near elite level talent relatively speaking right away, but it's a rare case and none of these rookies have proven anything and definitely do not deserve to be rated in the top 3 of their positions in the base rosters.

Physically, yes. It happens. Dri Archer is easily the fastest player in the NFL right now, and the data proves it.

However, when it comes to technical skill like PMV, MCV, CTH, etc, there should NEVER be a player rated that high as a rookie in ANY of those categories. Their OVR ratings should never be that high as well, and once again, I have data that illustrates that.

Rookies should be RAW. They should have the physical skills the data indicates, regardless of their youth and vitality, but also should show their age (and lack of experience) when it comes to employing technical skills that have to be learned and mastered before being successful.

[K_GUN]

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side note....impressed that EA got the Ralph Wilson Patch on the Bills uniforms this year...

[yardz23]

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side note....impressed that EA got the Ralph Wilson Patch on the Bills uniforms this year...

...and still can't fix the number font on the Vikings

[CT Pitbull]

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UMMM.. Dennard over Kyle Fuller??? sorry no... All that needs to be watched is the game He had for Va Tech vs Alabama. Against the top competition the kid was all over the field..


but im biased and nobody really knows yet they haven't played one snap

[RogueHominid]

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I'm happy Mack came in high. I had a feeling he would. I'll be looking forward to using him frequently in my OAK CCM, especially with the new defensive steering and pass rush mechanics. I think this is going to be the year that dominant edge rushers become the forces in Madden that they are in real life.

Definitely excited. Now let's just hope the offense is anywhere close to passable.

[ggsimmonds]

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Physically, yes. It happens. Dri Archer is easily the fastest player in the NFL right now, and the data proves it.

However, when it comes to technical skill like PMV, MCV, CTH, etc, there should NEVER be a player rated that high as a rookie in ANY of those categories. Their OVR ratings should never be that high as well, and once again, I have data that illustrates that.

Rookies should be RAW. They should have the physical skills the data indicates, regardless of their youth and vitality, but also should show their age (and lack of experience) when it comes to employing technical skills that have to be learned and mastered before being successful.

Anyone ever went to PFF and did a end of season rookie breakdown? I am sure a few rookies would grade favorably. Not sure I agree with your post since you put emphasis on "never."
Can I see your data?

[DCEBB2001]

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OMG these ratings are atrocious again. In what world would any OL have an acceleration that high if you are using real data?

In fact, did you know that the average NFL player actually averages a higher SPD rating (top end velocity) than ACC rating (initial velocity as defined by the game)? This continued over-inflation of OVR ratings and attributes must stop. This stuff keeps ruining the game and the developers' credibility, IMO.

[richiehero]

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Not really agreeing with some ratings, but the player models for O-Linemen are 100% better.

[DCEBB2001]

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Anyone ever went to PFF and did a end of season rookie breakdown? I am sure a few rookies would grade favorably. Not sure I agree with your post since you put emphasis on "never."
Can I see your data?

PFF is for analyzing tendencies, not traits. They do not look for the same information that is used to rate player attributes in Madden. All they look at is the end result of each play. They even admit this in their FAQ section.

Since the 1997 draft, there has not been ONE rookie that entered the league as tops in any category that is technical aside from a QBs THP and Ks KPW.

I cannot publish the primary source material as I am bound by a few NDAs, but I can interpolate and publish them indirectly at the FBG Ratings website. You will have to go there to see how the data mimics Madden, albeit, not as realistically as I would like (see the FBG thread and issues regarding the true-mean methodology vs. the equal-interval method for rating players).

[Big FN Deal]

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Madden ratings are completely ridiculous at this point, I don't just mean the numbers but the whole perceived circus around them. The more I think about how nonsensical it is to be displaying numerics that are just a part of the programming for in game player performance, the more I scratch my head at this entire affair. It's not like this nonsense is unique to Madden but this is a Madden forum and EA along with the Madden community seem to blow this the most out of proportion.

When it comes to releasing Madden ratings, it should be about profiling real data and scouting on players, pretty much like they do during the real NFL draft. That event has plenty of fanfare and excitement, without all the arcadey/video game numerics on parade. Have the teams that drafted them release they're internal raw data on player tangibles and how they evaluate they're skill and potential.

Player X, "My speed should be 97 at least", Player Y "A 82 Catch, man I should be at least a 89", etc, is the stupidest sounding ish coming from professional athletes about a game that's supposed be simulating their profession.

You video game kids get the **** off this old man's sim lawn! /rant

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[Tgar05]

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Someone tweeted "if you change clowney from olb to de his overall will be 92 per D. Moore."