Madden NFL 15 Official Trailer, Ultimate Edition Details and a Few Screenshots

[GiantBlue76]

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Not enough there to really pass judgement on anything. The wrap up tackle was nice, but the screenshot of sherman makes me think the silly pancake, hit stick tackles are still in the game. The sidelines don't look improved at all. I wonder if they fixed the issue with outside runs due to everyone on defense ignoring their gaps and crashing?

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[noplace]

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Graphics look the same in motions. Animations and movement look the same.

Alarmed by what I see in the video.

-At the snap all LBs are already in full sprints towards the LOS instead of reading and then reacting, ok fine maybe the play call was ALL LBs DOG.

-But at :47 the OLB willfully gives up contain and runs right into a block from the TE. He doesn't try to stay on TE outside shoulder at all. This is taught at the JV level if not sooner. The defense can't be truly fixed until this aspect of the game is fixed. This is an example of the game within the game the one-on-one within the team aspect. That OLB and should be outside the TE and that TE should be trying to turn that OLBs shoulders. Which should be determined by Run Block Rating and Block Shed rating.

Maddens major flaw, they ignore these things in fear of killing the so called fun factor.. This game has never implemented the basic fundamentals and assignment football. Instead they are programmed to engage whether the play is there to be made or not.. It’s a shame we’re in 2014 and this has not been addressed. Madden is Madden and what you see is what you’re get. Expect a more polished version of Madden 25 and we’ll have to roll with it..

[Only1LT]

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After seeing the trailer, I feel totally justified in having my initial opinion to the screenshot of Kap. *The actual game will look nothing like that*

Why the hell can't I ever be wrong about Madden?!

[SageInfinite]

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It's true man. Madden is Madden. Whether trailer or gameplay, what you see is what you usually get. Unless it's at a system launch, then it's usually what you see, you don't get, lol.

[BezO]

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...I wonder if they fixed the issue with outside runs due to everyone on defense ignoring their gaps and crashing?

From the looks of Lester's & DeCoud's reaction, no. One of them should've been the force defender.

[Blzer]

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After seeing the trailer, I feel totally justified in having my initial opinion to the screenshot of Kap. *The actual game will look nothing like that*

For someone who hasn't owned a Madden since '98 (okay I own '12, but I bought it for $10 and played it once), I can't agree with this statement. I don't think there was any deception in that first shot, at least compared to that of the E3 trailer. I think they look very much alike.

[atc43]

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Graphics look the same in motions. Animations and movement look the same.

Alarmed by what I see in the video.

-At the snap all LBs are already in full sprints towards the LOS instead of reading and then reacting, ok fine maybe the play call was ALL LBs DOG.

-But at :47 the OLB willfully gives up contain and runs right into a block from the TE. He doesn't try to stay on TE outside shoulder at all. This is taught at the JV level if not sooner. The defense can't be truly fixed until this aspect of the game is fixed. This is an example of the game within the game the one-on-one within the team aspect. That OLB and should be outside the TE and that TE should be trying to turn that OLBs shoulders. Which should be determined by Run Block Rating and Block Shed rating.

Dont expect this level of football knowledge to ever be in Madden, hell that level of football knowledge, like you said, is BASIC STUFF that every Freshman football player knows.

Imagine while gameplanning/practicing for a game in Madden you can set your OLBs to keep contain on outside runs and have the MLBs scrape and fill the holes or, you could switch it up and have the OLBs play hard inside the last man and have your great tackling safety's take responsibility for the outside run. The thing of dreams in Madden. We'll never see that :/

[JCHISENH2016]

It has gotten to the point where I truly believe that the public just hates Madden. I understand that this game is not as great as it could be, and NFL 2k5, gameplay-wise, outdoes every Madden game made since then. However, EA, in my opinion took a huge step in the right direction with M25 NG. It was not what they showed in their trailers, but it was a game that had improved blocking, better running, better graphics, and better lighting than any previous Madden, including M25 last-gen. Looking at these videos and screenshots, this looks way better than what Madden put out last year, and that seems good to me. Stop saying that this is a "disappointment" before you even see more than a one minute trailer that features barely any gameplay at all.

[BucksFan5Covers]

Both Screens were at different times of day.... that is why the shadows are different. CK picture appears tobe around sunset while Kuechly is around noon. Plus one picture is slightly compressed and the other is not.

[RyanLaFalce]

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Well, I give up. I guess I didn't make enough sense.

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[dghustla]

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That's the safety, but yeah, EA hasn't figured that out yet.

Honestly the more I watch it, the more it looks like 2 different plays, where did #82 come from to blow up that safety?

But either way the Safety or OLB wasthe farthest outside defender and at the snap on the play that defender has already comprised his assignment.

Maybe this is one isolated event, maybe it is fixed, but since this has been one of my biggest gripes for a long time, it was the first thing I looked for.

[gamer4eve]

It has gotten to the point where I truly believe that the public just hates Madden. I understand that this game is not as great as it could be, and NFL 2k5, gameplay-wise, outdoes every Madden game made since then. However, EA, in my opinion took a huge step in the right direction with M25 NG. It was not what they showed in their trailers, but it was a game that had improved blocking, better running, better graphics, and better lighting than any previous Madden, including M25 last-gen. Looking at these videos and screenshots, this looks way better than what Madden put out last year, and that seems good to me. Stop saying that this is a "disappointment" before you even see more than a one minute trailer that features barely any gameplay at all.

The bottom line the E3 trailer deceived people, EA has a history of doing this. 2K Sports NBA2k14 trailer look just like the game play, no deception at all

[CubFan23]

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While I think that Madden on PS4 was a graphical upgrade the gameplay was lacking and to me you can have the best looking game with out of this world graphics but after the ohhh and ahhh effect of shiny new graphics, it's whats under the hood that counts.

[FaceMask]

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The Kap pic looks to have been taken in 4pm lighting, while the Kuechly screenshot seems to be in 1pm lighting. 4pm lighting in Madden has a more dramatic effect because of all the shadowing.

The game is really only going to look juiced up when you're in pre-play/post-play/cutscenes/user replays where there are close-ups, just like it is with Madden 25. I didn't expect it to look like the Kap pic during gameplay for a number of technical reasons. It's not uncommon to see developers increase/decrease texture levels based on distance from the object.

[Only1LT]

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For someone who hasn't owned a Madden since '98 (okay I own '12, but I bought it for $10 and played it once), I can't agree with this statement. I don't think there was any deception in that first shot, at least compared to that of the E3 trailer. I think they look very much alike.

You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is that they look nothing alike. Not in terms of textures. Not in terms of lighting. Not in terms of AO. Not in terms of fidelity.

This isn't my first rodeo, and I don't mean with just Madden. It was obvious that there was a visible downgrade from the M25 E3 trailer to the subsequent YouTube vids released. People cried compression. How did that turn out? There was an obvious downgrade in visuals from Dark Souls 2 shown at shows and in YouTube vids just before release. People cried compression. How did that turn out? There was an obvious downgrade in visuals of Watch Dogs from the E3 footage to subsequently released trailers before launch. The Lead Designer Marin cried compression... How did that turn out?

I know the difference between compression of internet vids and bait and switch actual downgrades. I absolutely know what I am looking at here.