Madden NFL 15 Screenshot - Colin Kaepernick with Tattoos

[AuburnAlumni]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Screenshot - Colin Kaepernick with Tattoos

That could have been a shot of Marcus Mariota or Nick Marshall this year.





.......sigh.

[jeremym480]

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There's no Fighter Share or Logo/Content Share in EA UFC because of this...

It sucks and I can't say that I even understand it. I mean, 2K can have things like tattoos and the ability to share Draft Classes, but EA cannot?

I agree with Boltman though, it's hard to judge without really knowing the facts... I just hope this doesn't become the norm. I can only imagine watching the world burn if players in NBA 2K15 come out with bare, tattoo-less arms.

[m1ke_nyc]

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You don't have to buy it.

Maybe 2K and WWE have different policies in place regarding this. Maybe they approached the issue differently as to avoid potential legalities.

We don't have all the facts and yet you have contempt prior to investigation.

All I'm saying is we don't know exactly why, maybe with more information we'll have a better understanding.



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Im with you, for years misinformation was spread by users on this forum about how the NFL banned tattoos and now it turns out people were wrong and some light is being shed, we get guys saying now the reason is that EA is lazy. Like you said we should wait for facts to come out instead of jumping to conclusions and being wrong like most of us were before.

[SageInfinite]

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It's just so many things EA/Tiburon have said can't be in the game, or aren't possible because of such and such, and then boom magically they're in the game and we get no explanation to how this came to be, so it comes off as BS. I understand marketing and upper management dictates this stuff, but the excuses are just comical at times, and then next year or the year after stuff is in.

[SageInfinite]

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Im with you, for years misinformation was spread by users on this forum about how the NFL banned tattoos and now it turns out people were wrong and some light is being shed, we get guys saying now the reason is that EA is lazy. Like you said we should wait for facts to come out instead of jumping to conclusions and being wrong like most of us were before.

I could've sworn this came from when EA devs were actually on the site.

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Screenshot - Colin Kaepernick with Tattoos

That could have been a shot of Marcus Mariota or Nick Marshall this year.





.......sigh.

It made me think of NCAA immediately as well, and then I was very sad.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

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So NBA, WWE, and even UFC which is made by EA can have tattoos, but it's copyright infringement if Madden does it? I'm tired of excuses for Madden. I don't want to hear anymore excuses for Madden. So sick of it. Been hearing excuses since Madden hit the Xbox 360/PS3.

[m1ke_nyc]

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I could've sworn this came from when EA devs were actually on the site.

Maybe ? I dont personally recall it although I have not been here as long as alot of users. Ive always read post from users saying it so I assumed it was true. This says different. I dont think we are gonna get much info from EA or the NFL though. On a side note if they get gameplay on point and Kaep is the only person with tats i'll take it at this point lol.

[dghustla]

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Im with you, for years misinformation was spread by users on this forum about how the NFL banned tattoos and now it turns out people were wrong and some light is being shed, we get guys saying now the reason is that EA is lazy. Like you said we should wait for facts to come out instead of jumping to conclusions and being wrong like most of us were before.

But it is being lazy because there is a thing called immersion and realism. And other developers who face the same hurdles as EA constantly go beyond the call of duty (no pun intended) to make sure they can have as many areas of realism in their games.

If all EA had to do was get players to obtain permission from their tattoo artist to have their tats in the game why wasn't it done before? You mean to tell me this is the first time a tattoo artist was willing to agree to allow the tattoos he's provided to one of his most famous, high profile client's to be published without compensation? The bottom line is EA didn't do it because they didn't have to because there was no incentive to do so.

The sad thing is this "tattoo license debate" really overshadows a damn nice screen shot of what could be a special madden from a visual standpoint. Need to see it in motion before I anoint them.

[Greenblood60]

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The last time there were tats in Madden, the license was open. It looks more and more like competition will be coming back. Maybe it won't be this year, but it's coming back.

[apollon42]

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We aren't sure if this is true yet.

[Hooe]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but when tattoos used to exist in Madden on PS2 / XBOX / PC, they were pretty much all generic tribal bicep bands, none of which approach what existed on players in real life, yes?

Tattoos don't make or break my opinion of the game, beyond that the more authenticity in the visuals, the better.

[m1ke_nyc]

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But it is being lazy because there is a thing called immersion and realism. And other developers who face the same hurdles as EA constantly go beyond the call of duty (no pun intended) to make sure they can have as many areas of realism in their games.

If all EA had to do was get players to obtain permission from their tattoo artist to have their tats in the game why wasn't it done before? You mean to tell me this is the first time a tattoo artist was willing to agree to allow the tattoos he's provided to one of his most famous, high profile client's to be published without compensation? The bottom line is EA didn't do it because they didn't have to because there was no incentive to do so.

The sad thing is this "tattoo license debate" really overshadows a damn nice screen shot of what could be a special madden from a visual standpoint. Need to see it in motion before I anoint them.

I get what your saying, but ultimatetly in that situation wouldnt it be up to the player to actually go out and seek permission ? how do we know EA didnt try to convince players to do this ? we dont know that. Thats why im saying its a bit premature to jump to those conclusions. Im willing to bet this explanation about tattoo artist needing to consent is probably only half the truth. We are all probably specualting on half the truth.

We aren't sure if this is true yet.

Yep, like I said this is probably only partly truth.

[dghustla]

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I get what your saying, but ultimatetly in that situation wouldnt it be up to the player to actually go out and seek permission ? how do we know EA didnt try to convince players to do this ? we dont know that. Thats why im saying its a bit premature to jump to those conclusions. Im willing to bet this explanation about tattoo artist needing to consent is probably only half the truth. We are all probably specualting on half the truth.

I'm with you, someone dropped the ball somewhere. Maybe they asked and didn't follow up. But if devs are saying players are calling/emailing them asking where are their tats in game somewhere there was a disconnect.

But for at the end of the day tattoos not be included were the lease of the problems within the game. Hopefully gameplay will look as impressive as this screen shot.

[roadman]

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Are people overlooking what I posted above or maybe they just don't want to believe it, but FIFA comes under the same umbrella as Madden does: EA

This came from a developer of FIFA:

Why don't tattooed players have their tattoos in the game? (Stuart Maughan)

It's a long and complicated story but all different reasons, really. Sometimes we don't have permission to use them; there's a bunch of different reasons for that. We actually get emails and messages from the players more than the fans saying, 'Where's my tattoo?' The copyrights around tattoos is really interesting, you'd be surprised."

Edit: I see dg read it.

I know we were told by the developers before the Weber regime that the NFL didn't allow tattoos, that's where the disconnect is coming from.

This sounds more like more of a valid and legal reason.