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  • tabarnes19_SDS
    Game Designer
    • Feb 2003
    • 3084

    #166
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

    I see players potential lower if they don't hit that potential by a certain age.

    If they progress it's not much.

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    • BrianU
      MVP
      • Nov 2008
      • 1565

      #167
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

      I am not picking on SCEA but it seems every sports game has a very shallow franchise experience. The Show is slightly better since they implement so many of the intricate rules of the CBA and the drafts and service time, which are all great, but it all falls flat when you really explore the underpinnings like how the CPU teams use their budgets, waiver moves.

      It is frustrating because I am sure next year or coming soon they will add big ticket features like expansion, create a stadium, concession prices, pretty trival things for me, when what I really wish for is the foundation to be solid. I don't see the point in adding these things or even improving the gameplay when the foundation of franchise is basically lifeless. It is a very shallow experience if you look into it. It is the best we have in sports gaming but that isn't saying much. I don't expect them to change anything in another patch, this is the area that annually gets overlooked.

      The gameplay itself is a dream, franchise just has lots to be desired. I understand they need to sell copies and all. Just wish they would take 1 year to devote a solid 10-20% of the resources to put a stronger foundation to franchise and leave it at that then get back to adding the back of the box features. I am sure if tbarnes and a few others gave them a 10 point plan on what would improve the game, we would have a franchise mode worthy of The Shows excellence. So many little things that add up and become glaring once you are aware. Most people do not look into franchise as deep as us we are the minority but once you are aware of all the faults it is hard to get immersed into it. With all of the work the community does on OSFM and Sounds of the Show and the rest of it we deserve a franchise mode that isn't built on mud.

      EDIT: I will say they took a big step forward in keeping the league progression 5-10 years down the read more reasonable as well as in sim stats. Again there is still much work to do I am afraid it will not be improved because it isn't something that casual gamers who buy the game would ever care about or even realize.
      Last edited by BrianU; 04-26-2014, 07:54 PM.

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      • DarthRambo
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 6595

        #168
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

        Sooo let's say the budget issue isn't fixed. Can we get a guide on how to do contracts for each team? I know it would be tedious but really wouldn't mind spending a good 8-10 hours doing offseason stuff if it means a better experience for the next season in my franchise.

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        • Knight165
          *ll St*r
          • Feb 2003
          • 24964

          #169
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

          I was talking to tabarnes about this very thing.

          I just have not had a minute to try anything in regards to this out...

          But I'm going to have a go at trying out some things....big contracts for aging players.....wrapping up young studs to multi-year bigger contracts etc.

          I'm sure tabarnes is trying things as well...and he's good at it.
          I'd like to see what he comes up with..

          But I'd REALLY like to see SCEA tighten it up on their end.

          M.K.
          Knight165
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          • BrianU
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 1565

            #170
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

            Originally posted by Knight165
            I was talking to tabarnes about this very thing.

            I just have not had a minute to try anything in regards to this out...

            But I'm going to have a go at trying out some things....big contracts for aging players.....wrapping up young studs to multi-year bigger contracts etc.

            I'm sure tabarnes is trying things as well...and he's good at it.
            I'd like to see what he comes up with..

            But I'd REALLY like to see SCEA tighten it up on their end.

            M.K.
            Knight165
            Maybe once we find out how to fix some of the issues someone could put together a franchise file. A guide would be great with steps to resolve some of the common AI franchise issues!

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            • seanjeezy
              The Future
              • Aug 2009
              • 3347

              #171
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

              Originally posted by tabarnes19
              I see players potential lower if they don't hit that potential by a certain age.

              If they progress it's not much.

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              So its probably a legacy issue then, players already in the game (older ones) don't necessarily adhere to the same rules as generated or even younger players.

              I think players on the normal path (hit x potential by age x) stay on that path, but players who are older than the expected age but still have a gap between potential and overall continue to grow, albeit slightly. The largest jump I've seen from an older player is 4 OVR, which seems like a fairly significant jump. Two cases were pitchers with velocity increases at age 27, but that's because velocity growth is unfortunately tied to command and movement... Like I said in my earlier post I don't mind continued growth in baseball skill, but at that age physical ability should be on the verge of decline or already declining.

              I'm really craving for a more intricate player development system, it's far too basic for my tastes.
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              • Threeebs
                Rookie
                • Mar 2013
                • 451

                #172
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                This isn't post-patch related, I noticed it pre-patch too but the strikeout totals are low (I think I read someone else voice their concern over this?). You guys think it's a balancing issue or a K/9 ratings issue? 'Cause I know the ceiling on the rates were raised so some tweaking might need to be made on K/9 algorithms to get this back to normal...
                T.K.

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                • seanjeezy
                  The Future
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3347

                  #173
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                  Originally posted by Threeebs
                  This isn't post-patch related, I noticed it pre-patch too but the strikeout totals are low (I think I read someone else voice their concern over this?). You guys think it's a balancing issue or a K/9 ratings issue? 'Cause I know the ceiling on the rates were raised so some tweaking might need to be made on K/9 algorithms to get this back to normal...
                  Yeah that was me, I think I said that the top end guys looked fine but the mid and low tier were on the low side. I've been talking with Nomo about various ratings related things but we're still in the research phase.
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                  • KingV2k3
                    Senior Circuit
                    • May 2003
                    • 5881

                    #174
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                    Originally posted by BrianU
                    I'm all bout the discussion of franchise mode and hope the devs read this but I got something else to ask.

                    My understanding was with auto baserunning on it would be like last year where you manually control your base runners and the CPU doesn't make them auto steal or auto lead off. While I am able to trigger steals and lead offs it seems they also do it on their own.

                    Russell mentioned how you don't need to take that extra lead to do good at stealing and then getting picked off isn't as a big a concern, the problem is my players are taking that extra lead on their own and getting picked off without me touching anything. Has anyone else seen this? I actually prefer it this way except the fact that my guys get picked off once per game..... I have to monitor my base runners to make sure they don't take that extra lead instead of focusing on the pitcher.

                    Either pickoffs need to be toned down or the CPU controlled baserunners on both the user team and the CPU team need to not take as many extra leads.

                    Yeah, looks like this issue didn't get as much attention as required this patch, so:

                    Does it help to drop Steal Frequency below default (4, for example) to lessen the aggressiveness that leads to bigger leadoffs and having "less than" base stealers take off?

                    At while we're add it, drop Pickoffs to 4 and bump Steal Ability up to 6?

                    Not ideal, but MAY minimize, etc.

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                    • allgames
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 155

                      #175
                      MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                      Each game since the patch is worse. More warping, freezing, and overall high weirdness is making time spent playing online a waste. FIX THIS!!


                      Ridiculous. I finally get a clutch hit but the warping doesn't put the base runner icon in the right place so you get thrown out. This is pathetic after a major patch.

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                      Last edited by allgames; 04-27-2014, 01:07 PM.

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                      • jkra0512
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2277

                        #176
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                        I had a few stuttering issues last night (the first time I've played since the patch dropped). Luckily, it didn't affect the game too much, but the game would hang for a second and then pick back up after the pitch hit the mitt (all four instances were for balls....luckily)

                        I didn't have those issues until the patch, which makes me a little leery that this might be an ongoing issue going forward. I'll be really sad if this continues, but I suppose it's something I can live with.

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                        • CaseIH
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 3945

                          #177
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                          Originally posted by KingV2k3
                          Yeah, looks like this issue didn't get as much attention as required this patch, so:

                          Does it help to drop Steal Frequency below default (4, for example) to lessen the aggressiveness that leads to bigger leadoffs and having "less than" base stealers take off?

                          At while we're add it, drop Pickoffs to 4 and bump Steal Ability up to 6?

                          Not ideal, but MAY minimize, etc.
                          I have always put pickoffs at 0 over the years cause I got tired of th epitcher always throwing over. They still throw over, bu tnow its much more realistic with this slider at 0. I didnt notice a issue before the patch, nor do I have a problem now, so maybe at 0 that is why.
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                          • CaseIH
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 3945

                            #178
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                            Originally posted by Threeebs
                            This isn't post-patch related, I noticed it pre-patch too but the strikeout totals are low (I think I read someone else voice their concern over this?). You guys think it's a balancing issue or a K/9 ratings issue? 'Cause I know the ceiling on the rates were raised so some tweaking might need to be made on K/9 algorithms to get this back to normal...
                            I know last year this was a issue as well in franchise mode, and you needed to bump every pitcher up 5-10 in K/9. Granted you should have to do that to get right sim stats, but its possible it will be needed again this year if this is indeed the case.
                            Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

                            Favorite teams:
                            MLB- Reds/ and whoever is playing the Cubs
                            NBA- Pacers
                            NFL- Dolphins & Colts

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #179
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                              I've notice now that 40 games into my NYY Franchise, 30 team control, that the ticker is showing players like Texiera, McCann, Sabathia and Ellsbury even (which is odd, he has a 7 year deal) on the trading block.

                              These players are NOT actually on the block though.

                              It's very strange. I'm 25-15, by the way.

                              Where can I see my team strategy? I can't seem to find it.

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                              • bcruise
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23274

                                #180
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Patch 1.11 Available Now - Details Included

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                I've notice now that 40 games into my NYY Franchise, 30 team control, that the ticker is showing players like Texiera, McCann, Sabathia and Ellsbury even (which is odd, he has a 7 year deal) on the trading block.

                                These players are NOT actually on the block though.

                                It's very strange. I'm 25-15, by the way.

                                Where can I see my team strategy? I can't seem to find it.
                                You mean Normal/Rebuild/Playoff Push? At the top right of the manage roster screen.

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