NBA 2K14: Can Defense Win You A Championship?

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by miller31time

First of all, I apologize for coming across as an ***. I'm not normally like that. Secondly, my point is that putting together of team of under 80s and expecting them to do anything significant, then when they inevitably fail conclude that the opposite of their "strength" is the key to winning is a false premise in my opinion. If you built a team of all offense, no defense under 80s, you'd find them to be equally as bad, if not worse. And your conclusion, if following the same path, would be that offense doesn't win championships. Neither is correct as an elite balance of both generally is the path to success (in my opinion).

Gotcha..

I don't think he was necessarily looking to be significantly successful despite the title....just seeing how a team full of defensive specialists would fare over the course of a season...and how their ratings would come into play...but I could be mistaken...

[miller31time]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Gotcha.. I don't think he was necessarily looking to be significantly successful despite the title....just seeing how a team full of defensive specialists would fare over the course of a season...and how their ratings would come into play...but I could be mistaken...

No, I think you're correct - that was what seemed to be the purpose. But what would a team full of 60-80 rated players have to achieve to satisfy his goal of "defense wins championships"? His quote at the end about how the team not getting out of the first round signifies to him that offense indeed wins championships is what irked me. No team full of 60-80 rated players, irrespective of whether they're offensive specialists, defensive specialists or all-around players, is going to win anything significant. Therefore, it's intellectually dishonest to make finite conclusions one way or the other because the data and experiment was faulty to begin with.

Had he left out the expectations and conclusion, I wouldn't have a problem because it would have just been a fun little experiment.

[RipCityAndy]

Nice post. I'm not surprised with the result though. Limiting the player ovr to 79 is the huge limitation. An interesting iteration of this experiment would be slowly incrementing the ovr ceiling and determining how that affected the outcome.

Another fun experiment would be a team with all sub 60 rated three point shooters.

[grodbetatted]

No iggy in the squad?

[itzdaviddxd]

Can you try a team with good offense and bad defense to prove the counterpart to this?

[Phillyboy57]

Obviously defense wins championships. Look at the past 3 NBA Finals. Against Dallas the Heat could not figure out the Dallas zone and lost. Against OKC, Heat limited KD and stomped them. Against the Spurs Bosh blocks that 3 and the Heat win another title. Look at the NFL every year its the team with the best scoring defense in the Super Bowl.

[Radja]

i use the sacramento kings in my franchise and i do believe you have to be able to both play defense and have good chemistry to win. the other area is your coaches have to be good teachers with good ratings in both offense and defense.

this game is the first to truly remind me of college hoops. i love this game for that reason. after the rudy gay trade, that guy could not run a single play i called for him right. he got caught in screens, ended up in the wrong place and just was out of sync. after several games he started running the plays right and started scoring well.

[tril]

Quote: Originally Posted by Radja

i use the sacramento kings in my franchise and i do believe you have to be able to both play defense and have good chemistry to win. the other area is your coaches have to be good teachers with good ratings in both offense and defense. this game is the first to truly remind me of college hoops. i love this game for that reason. after the rudy gay trade, that guy could not run a single play i called for him right. he got caught in screens, ended up in the wrong place and just was out of sync. after several games he started running the plays right and started scoring well.

thast cause it is college hoops with NBA skin,,, I feel the same way about NBA 2k14.