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  • UH53
    Rookie
    • Mar 2011
    • 95

    #46
    Ok. So under the hood is all the gameplay improvements we want and expect to have... I get it! Like any successful football team you need to build from the inside out. So with that in mind... Madden 15 should look nothing like Madden 25? We should be getting a game that's as exceptionally eye pleasing as 2K14 right? I'm just glad 2K14 has raised the bar so that we know what we should expect when it comes to Next Gen gaming. Madden may not have any direct competition but the standard of Next Gen gaming has been set.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26338

      #47
      Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

      Originally posted by UH53
      Ok. So under the hood is all the gameplay improvements we want and expect to have... I get it! Like any successful football team you need to build from the inside out. So with that in mind... Madden 15 should look nothing like Madden 25? We should be getting a game that's as exceptionally eye pleasing as 2K14 right? I'm just glad 2K14 has raised the bar so that we know what we should expect when it comes to Next Gen gaming. Madden may not have any direct competition but the standard of Next Gen gaming has been set.
      Others expectations might be higher and that's great, but eye candy is lower on the list for me vs how the game plays.

      Always has been, always will. Madden has been so underperforming in game play the last several years, but has been pleasing eye candy.

      I'd prefer the pendulum to swing the other way for NG, but that's just me.

      There are other game play improvements that need to be added, but it's a good start.

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      • tnixen
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 3184

        #48
        Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

        Originally posted by UH53
        Ok. So under the hood is all the gameplay improvements we want and expect to have... I get it! Like any successful football team you need to build from the inside out. So with that in mind... Madden 15 should look nothing like Madden 25? We should be getting a game that's as exceptionally eye pleasing as 2K14 right? I'm just glad 2K14 has raised the bar so that we know what we should expect when it comes to Next Gen gaming. Madden may not have any direct competition but the standard of Next Gen gaming has been set.
        So true all sports gaming developers will hopefully strive to have there games on par or even better then first year game NBA 2K14! I really do have a good feeling we are gong to see some mind blowing sports games over the next few years on next gen systems! In fact it has already been said by Mark Cerny that it will take about 3 or 4 years before most developers can take full advantage of the PS4 hardware. There is so much untapped power left to be used.
        Last edited by tnixen; 10-19-2013, 11:50 AM.

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        • NFL_GREAT
          Banned
          • Sep 2013
          • 23

          #49
          Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

          Originally posted by friscob
          I'm shocked that there wasn't a single feature in the trailer about improved defense. Nope, instead they gave better blocking. They just don't get it
          Guess you didn't see the time in pocket vs. pass rush video? Cowboys vs Eagles? The DE/OLB #93 for Dallas coming off the right edge getting low, using his arms and body for leverage and to rip past the RT?

          Guess you didn't see the interview posted today talking about coverage AI and more coverage sacks?

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          • TeeDogg
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2283

            #50
            Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

            Originally posted by roadman
            Others expectations might be higher and that's great, but eye candy is lower on the list for me vs how the game plays.

            Always has been, always will. Madden has been so underperforming in game play the last several years, but has been pleasing eye candy.

            I'd prefer the pendulum to swing the other way for NG, but that's just me.

            There are other game play improvements that need to be added, but it's a good start.
            Its not just you,In the words of the king of pop, "u are not alone, I am here with you."

            I'm sure as next gen moves forward eye candy will be an easy task. I'd rather they start off with getting gameplay advanced and polished. Then hopefully presentation and other things will follow.

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            • TeeDogg
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2283

              #51
              Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

              No amount of graphics or presentation could have saved the game for me during the years of matador blocking and fb/rbs with no CLUE of of what picking up the blitz was. I shudder at the thought of those days

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              • Afrikan
                Banned
                • Apr 2004
                • 1462

                #52
                Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                Originally posted by roadman
                Others expectations might be higher and that's great, but eye candy is lower on the list for me vs how the game plays.

                Always has been, always will. Madden has been so underperforming in game play the last several years, but has been pleasing eye candy.

                I'd prefer the pendulum to swing the other way for NG, but that's just me.

                There are other game play improvements that need to be added, but it's a good start.


                I mean its not like the gameplay developers are also the art developers..... EA Tiburon is not some small indie studio.

                Heck with the NCAA team needing something to do now...I think its fine to expect BOTH gameplay and Graphics to improve...and not one over the other.

                I would think when it comes to a yearly franchise...it has more to do with Man Power (# of devs) that would be a reason one part of the game would have to get less attention.

                I just think it should not be an issue going forward. EA Sports has more employees at their disposable...if they choose to give them all jobs at what they have been developing for a while now...football games.

                then on top of that, EA Tiburon has a game engine that they share with other EA Sports developers...a mighty one in that with EA Canada, with FIFA. They have competition so they have no choice but to go all out. Ignite's art and animation engine will improve...some of which Tiburon should take advantage of, along with their own contributions to it.

                So along with the option of more man power, if EA Sports chooses....and having less time/increased results thanks to calibration with other devs. I'm expecting BOTH gameplay and graphics to improve exponentially. And don't forget that these consoles are MUCH more easier to develop for...and since are both similar in a sense, much more similar than the 360 to the PS3....then even more reason to see results.

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                • royounggoku
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 753

                  #53
                  Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                  Gone are the days of the “cheesy” Quarter defense 3-Man rush as a base defense – the 3-vs.-6-rush will no longer be a viable option for an entire defensive gameplan.

                  I know a lot of Youtube Madden players are gonna be mad at this.

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                  • UptheARSEnal
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 59

                    #54
                    Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                    I dont know man, this sounds like typical Madden talk.

                    "You cant see it, but TRUST us it is there"

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                    • Lodeus
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 448

                      #55
                      Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                      The eye test tells me this looks better.

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                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26338

                        #56
                        Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                        Originally posted by Afrikan


                        I mean its not like the gameplay developers are also the art developers..... EA Tiburon is not some small indie studio.

                        Heck with the NCAA team needing something to do now...I think its fine to expect BOTH gameplay and Graphics to improve...and not one over the other.

                        I would think when it comes to a yearly franchise...it has more to do with Man Power (# of devs) that would be a reason one part of the game would have to get less attention.

                        I just think it should not be an issue going forward. EA Sports has more employees at their disposable...if they choose to give them all jobs at what they have been developing for a while now...football games.

                        then on top of that, EA Tiburon has a game engine that they share with other EA Sports developers...a mighty one in that with EA Canada, with FIFA. They have competition so they have no choice but to go all out. Ignite's art and animation engine will improve...some of which Tiburon should take advantage of, along with their own contributions to it.

                        So along with the option of more man power, if EA Sports chooses....and having less time/increased results thanks to calibration with other devs. I'm expecting BOTH gameplay and graphics to improve exponentially. And don't forget that these consoles are MUCH more easier to develop for...and since are both similar in a sense, much more similar than the 360 to the PS3....then even more reason to see results.
                        I'm not against having both, all I'm saying it's not high on my priority list.

                        Heck, I've stated before I played with the ugliest graphics of a baseball game on a PC called HH baseball with burned faces, but all I cared about was game play. And at the time, HH baseball provided the best game play, in my opinion.

                        As far an NCAA, they laid off a lot of employees too.
                        Last edited by roadman; 10-19-2013, 02:09 PM.

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                        • Escobeats
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 108

                          #57
                          Looks better and animations look smoother but I can't stop getting the impression that this is a port. So far looks like the graphics have been upgraded and that's pretty much it but I stand to be corrected once I try it out. As long as I see improvements in the movement and blocking that'll make me a lot happier for this year.
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                          • hanzsomehanz
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3275

                            #58
                            Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                            No "but's" about it: these clips did enough to appease my disappointment towards the MNF videos.

                            While I appreciate what I did see, one thing remains unverified: how often will these intricate "60 decisions per minute" play out?

                            I cannot get a good read on the frequency and variety of these new AI sensors.

                            Figure 1

                            The Trench War looks prolonged by script (design) and if this is so: I do not see how we can see a multitude more of trench outcomes if we are rendered to a limit based on ratings?

                            Figure 2

                            I see player avoidance through the scope of Marshawn and AP and am left to wonder how the other 30 'backs will interact in their surroundings. Will avoidance intelligence be tiered and or tied to a slider?

                            I will wait for the Madden devotees to judge the final product - I have no say on the final verdict. I will simply wait and see.

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                            • SoxFan01605
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 7982

                              #59
                              Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                              Well, they seem to be focused on the right things at least. The trouble with EA is often execution though, so we'll see. I am encouraged by some of what I've seen, so hopefully 25 really hits on these points so they can really make significant progress by the next iteration (which is likely when I'll be back in the market for a football game).

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                              • friscob
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 0

                                #60
                                Re: Madden NFL 25: Next-Gen Gameplay Completely Revamped Under the Hood

                                Originally posted by NFL_GREAT
                                Guess you didn't see the time in pocket vs. pass rush video? Cowboys vs Eagles? The DE/OLB #93 for Dallas coming off the right edge getting low, using his arms and body for leverage and to rip past the RT?

                                Guess you didn't see the interview posted today talking about coverage AI and more coverage sacks?
                                Nope, I watched the trailer they released which ignored defense. Coverage sacks are nothing new and they make up the majority of the sacks that take place. I want to see pressure with the front 4
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