Top Rated Defensive Players in Madden NFL 25

[StreetCarp]

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Aldon Smith should be low 90s and Wilfork should definitely be a 95 or 96.

[NDAlum]

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Hopefully having a 97-OVR stud DT in Geno Atkins will result in him being a disruptive force in the trenches.

I can dream...

[jtswag187]

If Richard Sherman is a 96 then Patrick Peterson is a 95, just sayin

[jtswag187]

I have never heard of Muhammed Wilkerson (no offense jets fans) and he's over D Ware?

[jwhezzy2003]

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If Richard Sherman is a 96 then Patrick Peterson is a 95, just sayin

lol u kidding.
peterson got some pick's and all but he was also burnt toast. He is like the new DeAngelo Hall. He makes plays on the ball but he also get beat alot.

[TheKingOfVa]

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If Richard Sherman is a 96 then Patrick Peterson is a 95, just sayin

I agree, Peterson anchored the number 2 pass defense in football and was an all pro

[TheKingOfVa]

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lol u kidding.
peterson got some pick's and all but he was also burnt toast. He is like the new DeAngelo Hall. He makes plays on the ball but he also get beat alot.

Not sure what Peterson you were watching. Because last season Peterson was a shut down corner. You must be thinking about the first 8 games of his rookie season because that's the only time he was burnt toast. Last season the Cardinals had the 2nd best pass defense in football and Peterson was the only pro bowler back there. To compare him to DeAngelo Hall is a huge insult and shows your lack of football knowledge. I can tell you only saw him play once or twice. I've seen every game of his career. The advanced metric stats and regular football stats show Peterson was a top corner. Fellow players on NFL top 100 voted him the best corner in football. I'm going to trust their opinions over yours.

[westview33]

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Hopefully having a 97-OVR stud DT in Geno Atkins will result in him being a disruptive force in the trenches.

I can dream...

Why does everyone assume the overall rating means anything?

Atkins can be rated a 97 overall and it doesn't matter if the OL is rated a 75 overall because if that OL has 90+ strength regardless of his overall rating he's going o be able to hang with Atkins.

I think it's time people stop focusing on the overall rating and concentrate on the actual ratings that matter when playing the game.

Did you know that a higher overall rated OL is easier to beat than a lower overall rated guy if the higher rated guy has lesser strength for pass or run blocking?

Overall rating from what I've learned is just a way to rank the players in the data base and doesn't truly render how they will play on the field.

An example of this is when a scrub DB with 90 speed and acceleration will still play well because man coverage ratings doesn't have as much impact on the game.

Now lower that scrub DB agility ratings and all of sudden even with his speed and acceleration being high you'll start to see a huge difference in production when he has to change directions on the field to cover someone.

He loses a step in coverage when his agility is rated lower and the WR can then get better separation from him.

The problem is too many people are stuck using EA's ratings so they are left with the impression that ratings one either means nothing or two that higher overall rated players will be the best players on the field.

Both of those logics are false if you take the time to download any roster file from a roster creator who spends quality time on ratings.

I learned this a few years ago when using other rosters not made by EA.

[NDAlum]

That's what you took from that? My point was that I hope an elite DT (Geno Atkins) can be a disruptive force.


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[bcruise]

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Looks like it goes into details about block shedding and power moves this time.

[Find_the_Door]

Not sure what Peterson you were watching. Because last season Peterson was a shut down corner. You must be thinking about the first 8 games of his rookie season because that's the only time he was burnt toast. Last season the Cardinals had the 2nd best pass defense in football and Peterson was the only pro bowler back there. To compare him to DeAngelo Hall is a huge insult and shows your lack of football knowledge. I can tell you only saw him play once or twice. I've seen every game of his career. The advanced metric stats and regular football stats show Peterson was a top corner. Fellow players on NFL top 100 voted him the best corner in football. I'm going to trust their opinions over yours.

You're obviously biased. Peterson ranked 18th in coverage on Profootballfocus.com

Coverage has never been his strong suit - his athleticism is his strength - the craft of the position is his weakness without question. DeAngelo Hall is a very fair comparison because if he doesn't work on his craft he'll end up like Hall around Halls age as he'll lose a step in the athleticism. We've already seen Dez beat him like a drum in preseason like Dez does Hall year in and out - a foreshadow perhaps?

[TheKingOfVa]

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You're obviously biased. Peterson ranked 18th in coverage on Profootballfocus.com

Coverage has never been his strong suit - his athleticism is his strength - the craft of the position is his weakness without question. DeAngelo Hall is a very fair comparison because if he doesn't work on his craft he'll end up like Hall around Halls age as he'll lose a step in the athleticism. We've already seen Dez beat him like a drum in preseason like Dez does Hall year in and out - a foreshadow perhaps?

I'm biased because I'm a Cardinals fan? That stat doesn't account for Peterson having no help in the secondary and always taking the toughest assignment. Having more help makes players jobs easier, example Richard Sherman. Thanks to Peterson the Cardinals pass defense finished 2nd in DVOA in the entire NFL. He doesn't have the luxury of playing one half of the field like Sherman with a pro bowl corner to the other side and two pro bowl safeties behind him. Peterson and Hall have nothing in common. His coverage improved a lot last year from his rookie season that's why he was a pro bowler and voted by his peers on NFL top 100 as the best corner in the entire NFL. Players are a better judge of talent than people on a message board because they are actually on the field. Peterson was a two time pro bowler before the age of 23. Not many players in NFL history can say that. People forget how young he is.

Dez didn't beat Peterson like a drum. He had one great catch and a horrible fumble like Dez always does. He needs to get his fumbling and off the field issues straight or he will have a short career. By the way Dez was voted 35th on the top 100, Peterson 33rd. And Dez is two years older.

[Find_the_Door]

I'm biased because I'm a Cardinals fan? That stat doesn't account for Peterson have no help in the secondary and always taking the toughest assignment. He doesn't have the luxury of playing one half of the field like Sherman with a pro bowl corner to the other side and two pro bowl safeties behind him. Peterson and Hall have nothing in common.

Dez didn't beat Peterson like a drum. He had one great catch and a horrible fumble like Dez always does. He needs to get his fumbling and off the field issues straight or he will have a short career.

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Dez doesn't "always" fumble but he does on occasion. Just like Peterson doesn't always get burnt, but on occasion he does. His skills are average, however, his athleticism is off the charts.

Dez does have his off the field life together FYI. Who does Joe Haden have over the top? How about Revis? Have anymore excuses you'd like to make for Peterson's above average coverage skills as a corner?

[Find_the_Door]

I agree, Peterson anchored the number 2 pass defense in football and was an all pro

Just a testament to who Peterson has around him - nice job shooting yourself in the foot for all to see.

[TheKingOfVa]

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Dez doesn't "always" fumble but he does on occasion. Just like Peterson doesn't always get burnt, but on occasion he does. His skills are average, however, his athleticism is off the charts.

Dez does have his off the field life together FYI. Who does Joe Haden have over the top? How about Revis? Have anymore excuses you'd like to make for Peterson's above average coverage skills as a corner?

Dez fumbles a lot and he could easily be the next NFL player thrown out of the league.

Peterson has very good coverage. It's no excuse, the guy was 22 last season, do you think he will never improve? By the way Joe Haden is a good corner but he isn't better than Peterson. I have them almost neck to neck and Peterson is a lot younger and faster. Revis had a pro bowl corner on other side of the field in Cromartie so not sure why he is used an example. Plus Revis is the best corner in football and 28 years old.