Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

[d11king]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

This looked terrible. Why is it so hard for them to see AP did no such foot-planting. I'm really at a loss for words, looks as if its gonna be the same nonsense on next-gen just better graphics. I'll rightfully decline, EA Sports. Unpleasure doing business with you.

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Look up pre-alpha footage of any madden released from 2006-2013 and you'll realize "What you see is what you'll get".

Everyone knows this about the Madden series...

Ok. I guess Madden 25 on next gen forgot to add 30 teams, fans, commentary and everything else.

Oh and it only has 2 plays.

You're just another guy on these boards that is still mad about Madden 08 or some other old version. Let it go.

This board is full of mindless haters. You guys just don't like Madden, so give it up. Why are you even here? This is what Madden is, you think you're going to change that? Is complaining for years on top of years going to matter? Madden is this. Period.

Let people constructively talk about the game without constantly referring back to ancient history. LET IT GO.

when did I say any of that again?

So then what are you basing it off of? You're the one referring to EA's history, so explain yourself.

[BV11]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Ok. I guess Madden 25 on next gen forgot to add 30 teams, fans, commentary and everything else.

Oh and it only has 2 plays.

You're just another guy on these boards that is still mad about Madden 08 or some other old version. Let it go.

This board is full of mindless haters. You guys just don't like Madden, so give it up. Why are you even here? This is what Madden is, you think you're going to change that? Is complaining for years on top of years going to matter? Madden is this. Period.

Let people constructively talk about the game without constantly referring back to ancient history. LET IT GO.



So then what are you basing it off of? You're the one referring to EA's history, so explain yourself.

Is it that hard for you to understand that nobody here is bashing the fact that there is only 2 teams, no fans, no sidelines, etc? We are strictly talking about what we are seeing on the field, the gameplay. The most important part of the game. And it looks subpar compared to where other sports games are at.

And I am not a Madden hate-r. I still play 05/06 on Xbox. Those games were great, I loved madden back then. The game took a turn for the worse, and I guess you could call me a hate-r, but only of this gen of madden, because it isn't good.

[moylan1234]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

So then what are you basing it off of? You're the one referring to EA's history, so explain yourself.

There's no need to just play this game in 5 months and you'll understand what we're talking about

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Is it that hard for you to understand that nobody here is bashing the fact that there is only 2 teams, no fans, no sidelines, etc? We are strictly talking about what we are seeing on the field, the gameplay The most important part of the game. And it looks subpar compared to where other sports games are at.

And I am not a Madden hate-r. I still play 05/06 on Xbox. Those games were great, I loved madden back then. The game took a turn for the worse, and I guess you could call me a hate-r, but only of this gen of madden, because it isn't good.

The game took a turn for the worse, no doubt. Madden 13 however? Was a pretty fun experience.

M25 looks to be correcting unrealistic aspects of M13, so I'm excited about it.

Next-gen has the features coming over from past gen. This didn't happen last cycle, but people are drawing comparisons anyways.

How can you validate concerns about the gameplay when you haven't seen most of the actual game? Guys at E3 are reporting that things like blocking are different between the games as an example.

We haven't seen the passing game at all. We haven't seen the AI in possession of the football.

And you're making concrete opinions of the final product. Then will reference a 5 year old Madden game, made by different human beings on a different engine on a different console as your reference. It never ends.

Much like another regular madden ***** on here, Bucky, was yelling at someone because he merely said "I'm impressed", saying "how dare you make extreme opinions on such little footage!" and the horde of haters liked his post.

Now, the haters can make their own final extreme opinion based on the same little footage?

The stance on Madden some people take is absurd.

There's no need to just play this game in 5 months and you'll understand what we're talking about

So you can't defend your complaint. Understood.

[moylan1234]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

So you can't defend your complaint. Understood.

such poor reading comp. It doesn't need to be defensed that's the point there's a plethora of samples out there for you to see for yourself and there will be one more 5 months from now

[djordan]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Ok. I guess Madden 25 on next gen forgot to add 30 teams, fans, commentary and everything else.

Oh and it only has 2 plays.

You're just another guy on these boards that is still mad about Madden 08 or some other old version. Let it go.

This board is full of mindless haters. You guys just don't like Madden, so give it up. Why are you even here? This is what Madden is, you think you're going to change that? Is complaining for years on top of years going to matter? Madden is this. Period.

Let people constructively talk about the game without constantly referring back to ancient history. LET IT GO.

When I play Madden, I play after the snap...Which was shown in the video. When the first video of Madden 2001 appeared on IGN I was AMAZED by the drastic jump in graphics along with the smooth running animations and wrap tackles.

Coming from previous gen (PS3/XBOX 360) I was expecting a leap as that of PSX to PS2. I just didn't see it when viewing the Next Gen gameplay video.

I'm the last person to call a madden *****. I've had visions of where this game should be dating back to 2004-2005 and have yet to see those visions come true. I along with many other Madden fans would love to praise EA but we've seen what they've put out over the years and just can't give them proper credit. When you see what other Devs (2K,Sony, etc...) are accomplishing with the same hardware you have to scratch your head and ask yourself "Why am I not seeing the same innovations with the Madden series?". Back in 2004 my online record was 775-325 I believe. I played over 100 games during X-mas break week. I was a freaking Madden fiend who would pick up the sticks before washing my azz, brushing my teeth, or eating in the morning lol.

I really want to get back to those days. Sorry for the long rant.

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

such poor reading comp. It doesn't need to be defensed that's the point there's a plethora of samples out there for you to see for yourself and there will be one more 5 months from now

You're claiming pre-alpha will be final and just said "EA's history" is your proof. My reading comprehension is just fine, however your ability to construct an argument is terribly poor.

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

When I play Madden, I play after the snap...Which was shown in the video. When the first video of Madden 2001 appeared on IGN I was AMAZED by the drastic jump in graphics along with the smooth running animations and wrap tackles.

Coming from previous gen (PS3/XBOX 360) I was expecting a leap as that of PSX to PS2. I just didn't see it when viewing the Next Gen gameplay video.

I'm the last person to call a madden *****. I've had visions of where this game should be dating back to 2004-2005 and have yet to see those visions come true. I along with many other Madden fans would love to praise EA but we've seen what they've put out over the years and just can't give them proper credit. When you see what other Devs (2K,Sony, etc...) are accomplishing with the same hardware you have to scratch your head and ask yourself "Why am I not seeing the same innovations with the Madden series?". Back in 2004 my online record was 775-325 I believe. I played over 100 games during X-mas break week. I was a freaking Madden fiend who would pick up the sticks before washing my azz, brushing my teeth, or eating in the morning lol.

I really want to get back to those days. Sorry for the long rant.

The graphics jump was never going to be huge from previous gen to this one, you cannot compare to the Gen 2 to Gen 3 leap.




Clearly you can see how in previous eras you'd get quite a noticeable change but as we move ahead it's no longer the case.

Comparing to FIFA, there's no huge graphical jump either. It's on the same scale as Madden. It is what it is.


I don't know how someone playing that controlled demo gives you a final opinion on the next gen gameplay. You don't even know how the controller feels in your hand, yet you have an opinion on how the game plays?


C'mon Deejay.

[capn_razzamataz]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

You're claiming pre-alpha will be final and just said "EA's history" is your proof. My reading comprehension is just fine, however your ability to construct an argument is terribly poor.

That's not what he's claiming at all. He's claiming the final build will not be considerably different than this pre-alpha footage which, again, using EA's history as a guide, is very likely.

Is this a certainty? No, of course not. Some things could possibly be better in a few months just as some things could possibly be worse in a few months.

[bucky60]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Much like another regular madden ***** on here, Bucky, was yelling at someone because he merely said "I'm impressed", saying "how dare you make extreme opinions on such little footage!" and the horde of haters liked his post.

If you're going to bring my name up, at least be accurate. So far I have not given an impression of Madden 14/25 because I have not seen enough of it. I commented on someone else having an extreme opinion while they were chastising somebody else's opinion while we haven't had nearly enough info to really make these kinds of judgements.

My comment wasn't hating on anything. It was basically stating the obvious. And now I've seen just what you're about.

And the person you were just chastising was going off of footage we have, which all we have AND almost a decade of EA/Tib history.

Madden 13 wasn't very good (for what I want it for) and many others agree with that. You seem to have a different opinion. So I suppose it was good for you.

Please don't mention my user id and represent it so falsely.

THANK YOU.

[moylan1234]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

You're claiming pre-alpha will be final and just said "EA's history" is your proof. My reading comprehension is just fine, however your ability to construct an argument is terribly poor.

I'm not constructing anything and we're not arguing. just letting you know how it's been in the past and most likely will be in the future. as I said try for yourself maybe we're all wrong. believe me we'd like to proven wrong it's not like we're sitting here rooting for the series to fail.

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

That's not what he's claiming at all. He's claiming the final build will not be considerably different than this pre-alpha footage which, again, using EA's history as a guide, is very likely.

Is this a certainty? No, of course not. Some things could possibly be better in a few months just as some things could possibly be worse in a few months.

At least someone is capable of explanation, awesome.

So using EA's history as a guide, and their regular use of rookie mode in footage we know that things don't often play the same as when we actually play the game.

When I play Madden, it doesn't look like their marketing videos (I'm not trucking everyone over with ease) nor their gameplay demos.

[inkcil]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

Looking/judging based on this video, it's too much of the "same old same old." Outside of some (not all) of the running back's foot animations, the other stuff looks just like what we've been getting from Madden since '06. The linebackers moving in exact unison, the players barely touching each other and flying backwards in opposite directions like shot out of a cannon, the wayward diving by the defensive players. Sigh.

We all want Madden to be soooooo good...but does EA?

[tfctillidie]

Re: Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

If you're going to bring my name up, at least be accurate. So far I have not given an impression of Madden 14/25 because I have not seen enough of it. I commented on someone else having an extreme opinion while they were chastising somebody else's opinion while we haven't had nearly enough info to really make these kinds of judgements.

My comment wasn't hating on anything. It was basically stating the obvious. And now I've seen just what you're about.

And the person you were just chastising was going off of footage we have, which all we have AND almost a decade of EA/Tib history.

Madden 13 wasn't very good (for what I want it for) and many others agree with that. You seem to have a different opinion. So I suppose it was good for you.

Please don't mention my user id and represent it so falsely.

THANK YOU.

Madden 13 wasn't very good? Subjective. Many people enjoyed Madden 13, many people still play Madden 13 10 months after it's release.

Just because your opinion is that Madden isn't very good, doesn't make it true. It's just your opinion, that's the problem with your type.

You seem to think that Madden to everyone, is exactly what you think it is.

If "many" people thought that, Madden wouldn't continue to sell to millions of people. I wonder what your definition of "many" is? Millions of people have fun with this game, that's more than your "many", I'm sure.

bucky, you're a 60 year old man who programs for a living and think you know it all about game development. I've read your posts for close to a decade. I know you in and out. You hate Madden, period. You're here to stir **** up, like you do on other boards and think that everyone thinks Madden is crap because that's your opinion of it.

You make every thread you post in nearly intolerable. You can't stand anything about this game, but for years just piss and moan about it. What's your purpose?