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  • gdh5503
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    • Sep 2010
    • 16

    #151
    How you have two years off and still talking about you working on this and that and your a few months away from launch. I am not as upset at Live 13 as I am at 2k13. Live is done in my opinion until they prove me wrong, But I don't think that they will ever get it right. Just like Madden, Madden is going to have to really bring it this year for them to get me back I have been done for four years with Madden. But anyway both Live 13 and 2K13 are looking like huge disappointments. In my honest opinion from these pictures of Live 13, it looks like the same game from previous years.

    Maybe I am thinking about bad memories of how I hate the player models in Live and I hate the way the shoes look on the court the way the players look HUNCHED over all the time like they are stuck in a defensive position, everyone is built the same in that game you cant tell the difference between a skinny and bony Stephen Curry from a Chris Paul? Not to mention the way the ball is so big; why is the ball so big?? It doesn't look right. I have always disliked the ball animation and the way it is shot and the way it goes in the rim etc.... Those are the worst animations I have ever seen compared to 2K. Speaking of 2K, that gameplay interview at E3 for 2K13 was a huge disappointment. I recorded it on my DVR so I wouldn't miss it and I felt leaving away from it a little manipulated... I don't know why I always get shocked because it happens all the time every year... I should learn by now. That game looks the same just a little touched up to trick the consumer into thinking it is going to be a different game, when in fact its not. As a matter of fact I know it will be the same game with a little tuning because Jason Argent said it himself; " It will be more of the same". He even went as far as saying that that is what the fans/consumers want. (Scratching my head). The same, i don't think I want to pay $65 dollars for the same game?! Who is this guy John McCain?

    That gameplay is still going to come up short again and it will be a boring game after about a month into it once again. Especially because you have to download the All-Star weekend which shouldn't be a thank you to the fans because it is long over due; but something already built into the game back in 2k1!!!???? Why do I have to leave my Association mode just to play some downloaded content that should be implemented into dynasty/association mode to make it more fun and authentic??!

    Man I am bout to be done with these disappointing basketball games from dumb and goofy looking player animations and dribble moves, to dumb cheating AI when you play on higher difficulty, to boring commentary that acts like a player or team is not dominating because they are not responsive to it at all; neither the fans in the audience for that matter, including playoff atmosphere, By the way, they promised Playoff atmosphere, presentation and audience was true to the game last year... I could go on and on but it is a waste of breath...

    All I know is 2K and Live will impress me when after a few weeks of playing the game if I don't have to adjust sliders to make it true to the game of authentic basketball then they did what they needed to do. But if I have to look here to these forums or Youtube to find somebody who adjusted sliders that will make the gameplay closer to authentic basketball or make the Ai a tad bit more competitive, then count 2K13 a failure and a disappointment..

    The consumer shouldn't even have to do that to make the game fun in the first place... HAHAHAHAHA! That's how you know that these hyped up basketball games is wack man... Adjusting sliders???? I cannot count how many times I fell asleep while playing 2K11 and 2k12 after about a month into it. Is it just me??? Last but not least can somebody answer me why Kevin Durant and Serge Ibaka look just alike in the game as far as player models??????? What is that???!!!! I cant even figure out who to guard because they look the same if you don't see the number on the Jersey. I play on Broadcast most of the time but even on 2K view they look the same?? Kevin Durant is Long and wiry he isn't swole or ripped and he looks short in the game. They need to fix that. Kobe Bryant as well. Holler at me when Kobe Bryants legs look close to toothpicks with his calf muscles barely bulging out. Why does Kobe look solid and short in the game?

    I just feel like the player models are not good. Graphics good but not authentic. I feel like they got these player models bad and I don't know why but it seems like one year they got the player models straight and authentic then they changed it. Just like they do with other features that they take out the game one year when it worked that year and two builds later bring it back and call it a new feature?? HAHAHAHAHA!! Talk about mind games and manipulation of the consumer man..
    Last edited by gdh5503; 06-06-2012, 01:39 PM.
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    • simbayless
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      • May 2011
      • 2002

      #152
      This what gets irritating, every time EA gets a new team the first thing they say is they dream and sleep the sport or use to play it ect...then when the final product comes out you would think amateurs made this game that never even heard of the sport Ian was a big example of this when he said the whole team is very passionate ect lol you never here the other company talk to much about how one of them use to play the sport more then actually talking about the product but I will give the new madden team big props they talk less and work harder and it shows

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      • gdh5503
        Rookie
        • Sep 2010
        • 16

        #153
        Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

        These guys spend so much money on strategy marketing and development that they forget about gameplay, player models and AI adaptability. It has been 13 years and we still don't have a basketball sim to revolutionize the way we play basketball games. 2k to me still has another level to go and i don't think they will do it this year either.

        To me 2K12 was a downgrade. 2K11 was okay... Better than 2K12, but okay. I still don't see it happening this year either. I don't know what they are waiting for but they haven't wowed me. I mean think about it for a second just really sit back and think about it. Have we seen a basketball sim that has revolutionized the way we play simulation basketball? It has been over 13 years we have spent money to play these so called simulation basketball games.

        I am not talking about the development over the years because I give them credit in the sense that as a game in general they have come pretty far from a graphic standpoint and the things you can do as a user, the moves and stuff you can pull off, but what I am taking about is changing the way we play and the way the AI plays against us. I have not been immersed into a basketball sim yet. Not even 2K has sucked me into that "experience" that they talk about every year. Presentation, gameplay all that is okay but not spectacular the way it is hyped up. I found myself skipping through the Sprint momentum play by play by Doris Burke the halftime report I skip, and the intermissions with other teams that are playing report gets skipped. Even the intros I skipped after a month.

        I know this thread is about Live 13 but I just got to say it all because they are both making claims about simulation, gameplay experience, ESPN this, Sprite that, and neither Live or 2K has really showed up. Live especially, these dudes been out the game for two years and their build is below average at this point and they don't have very long to go to launch and I fear for them. look how long its been that we have played these basketball games. Just sit and think about it. What are they waiting for, Next Gen consoles? I hope not because we will be right back here again, all next gen is going to be is graphic enhancement.

        Its been a very long time for these basketball sims and we are still being tickled with gameplay and visuals. Just think about it as a consumer. Does anyone feel cheated but me? Just my opinion either 2K and maybe Live for that matter are holding back for something big for next year because it is not this year and I can guarantee that based on what I have seen so far and we all know they don't have a whole lot of time to scrap and build again before launch or in reality they have reached their CEILING.

        Both games in my opinion need an EXTREME MAKEOVER from player models not just faces, to presentation and commentary adaptability, replays and halftime reports, a real deep and immersive Dynasty mode, deep and immersive Create a player not just my player but create a player in Dynasty mode, Olympic games and teams not in a mode only but also into the deep and immersive Dynasty mode and so on. Its been 13 years?!!??
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        • Paul Pierce_OS
          Don't Kill My Vibe
          • Sep 2011
          • 4626

          #154
          Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

          Visually, a revamped graphics engine has players looking better than ever before. A whopping 100 man-hours have gone into each pro’s head alone, and signature styles such as free-throw routines, jumpers, and dribble moves will all be accurately depicted. Still, the overall look of the game is decidedly lacking at this admittedly early stage, with cartoony animations and, worse, the same hyper-speed, arcade-y gameplay pacing that we docked the last NBA Live for. Again, however, NBA Live 13 has plenty of time left on the shot clock to execute its play. We look forward to seeing what it’s got we get the controller in our hands.
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          • chivs890
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 14

            #155
            It's like they're creating a tech demo instead of a game. They talk of these physics, collisions, data.. yet the real life stuff like player movement, animations, general sim gameplay.. just seems to be an after thought.

            This has started out identically to NBA Elite, promises of all these great things that they can do with this new tech, yet when it's put together and you actually see it it's a complete mess.

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            • EAGLESFAN10
              MVP
              • Nov 2011
              • 2338

              #156
              Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

              If Im not mistaken physics and collisions can be tied with player movement and collisions
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              • DW3
                MVP
                • Oct 2005
                • 1056

                #157
                Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                I just pray live 13 is even on par with live 10. It's to the point where I'm flat out bored with 2ks rendition of basketball. Not saying anything is wrong with the game just as a 2k players for over 12 years, the game is becoming stale to me. I love basketball period. It will be a huge disappointment for me if both games end up mediocre.
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                • nccomicfan
                  MVP
                  • May 2006
                  • 1530

                  #158
                  Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                  I'm treating this as a first year EA title, and I have a strict rule not to breathe of EA's first version of anything.

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                  • Subversion
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 178

                    #159
                    Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                    Originally posted by DW3
                    I just pray live 13 is even on par with live 10. It's to the point where I'm flat out bored with 2ks rendition of basketball. Not saying anything is wrong with the game just as a 2k players for over 12 years, the game is becoming stale to me. I love basketball period. It will be a huge disappointment for me if both games end up mediocre.
                    Yep same feelings here. I saw the private presentation of Live at E3 and came away thinking "They had 2 years to develop a new idea, and all they did was borrow ANT from FIFA?" All the other assets are from Elite 11'.

                    Games aren't just a methodical calculation, there has to be creativity.

                    Last NBA game I really played was 2K9. Been passing on these games for a while now.

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                    • NoTiCe_O
                      Pro
                      • May 2009
                      • 969

                      #160
                      Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                      Originally posted by thevaliantx
                      No doubt you will, but for those of us who are familiar with EA's history (trust me, the negative preview that EA got on this isn't bothering them one bit because they're loaded with cash), we know that EA will improve some things, and remove other working things. More of the same.
                      That's what i figured, EA can hire the best engineers and game designers in the country if they feel the need. I figure if LIVE 13 is alright EA will do what they have to, money and technology wise, to make Live 14 a way better game.

                      That was just an initial reaction after reading the preview though, Live 13 may have a shot on my shelf, not day one though
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                      • noshun
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1150

                        #161
                        Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                        Originally posted by Subversion
                        I saw the private presentation of Live at E3 and came away thinking "They had 2 years to develop a new idea, and all they did was borrow ANT from FIFA?" All the other assets are from Elite 11'
                        Do go into details...
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                        • bigeastbumrush
                          My Momma's Son
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19245

                          #162
                          Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                          Originally posted by Subversion
                          Yep same feelings here. I saw the private presentation of Live at E3 and came away thinking "They had 2 years to develop a new idea, and all they did was borrow ANT from FIFA?" All the other assets are from Elite 11'.

                          Games aren't just a methodical calculation, there has to be creativity.

                          Last NBA game I really played was 2K9. Been passing on these games for a while now.
                          Care to elaborate on what you saw?

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                          • MatthewCzech
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 2

                            #163
                            Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                            Looks like it might be a football game only year for me

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                            • Playmakers
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 15318

                              #164
                              Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                              Originally posted by 22cedric
                              They're adding tons more signature animations,celebrations etc to NBA Live 13 this year. A collision system is also being added.
                              hey look man don't take this the wrong way because you seem like a cool guy.

                              But we aren't buying anymore of EA's B.S. on here.

                              Most of these guys will believe it when they see it on the floor. I mentioned this before to you that all the interviews, screen shots and previews are all just HYPE.

                              These guys had two years off and to come on here and say the game is only 60% complete is a slap in the face to all those who have supported EA for years.

                              What did they do for the 1st 12 months work on their marketing/Hype Skills?

                              They should be finished with the product and showing us videos of live gameplay....showing us how hard they worked doing the down time.

                              Instead we get a preview talking about 60% complete and be forgiving to them (EA) for the gameplay not being up to speed yet.....
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                              • thevaliantx
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 369

                                #165
                                Originally posted by NoTiCe_O
                                That's what i figured, EA can hire the best engineers and game designers in the country if they feel the need. I figure if LIVE 13 is alright EA will do what they have to, money and technology wise, to make Live 14 a way better game.

                                That was just an initial reaction after reading the preview though, Live 13 may have a shot on my shelf, not day one though
                                That's not at all what I was saying, but thanks for trying. What I DID suggest is that EA does the bare minimum to survive (and uses their marketing to do the rest of the work), and that their long, long history shows that AT BEST they will make minimum improvements on successor products, and remove things that are working ..... under the guise of "we just didn't have the space to put it all in", only to market said removed things at "NEW!!!!!" a year or two later.

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