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  • 22cedric
    Pro
    • Jan 2012
    • 501

    #136
    Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

    Originally posted by Da_Czar
    What's good family. We will be talking about this review on friday if you want to join in the conversation. I have not had hands on with this yet for the person who asked.

    One thing to keep in mind is that with their ANT system they can make changes really fast. This early in a dev cycle they could have huge chunks of the game that just weren't ready to show. So that COULD combine to make things seem a lot worse than it is.

    For certain they should be ahead of where they are. Meaning all pieces should be able to be inserted in the game for basic gameplay to look passable in June. However with the tech they are using and only being 60% they game could possible look much better than it does.

    HOWEVER this is EA and there is no telling if they have the time to put in 40% if their changes. So I am in the wait and see camp.

    Unfortunately for EA we have heard this all before even right up into the cancellation of their last game.

    Only time will tell if they got caught showing too early or If in fact the writing is on the wall.
    I think both the NBA Live & NBA 2K teams released their info on their games too early at E3 from a pre-alpha build standpoint & that they should have waited until the games were more polished. I'm still hopefull since these NBA Live 13 screenshots that been revealed are not even on the ea sports nba live website so they may not be final. People are letdown from both games by what they saw from E3 that was pre-alpha I think we should wait until the upcoming months to make judgements.
    Last edited by 22cedric; 06-06-2012, 09:22 AM.

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #137
      Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

      Originally posted by Da_Czar
      What's good family. We will be talking about this review on friday if you want to join in the conversation. I have not had hands on with this yet for the person who asked.

      One thing to keep in mind is that with their ANT system they can make changes really fast. This early in a dev cycle they could have huge chunks of the game that just weren't ready to show. So that COULD combine to make things seem a lot worse than it is.

      For certain they should be ahead of where they are. Meaning all pieces should be able to be inserted in the game for basic gameplay to look passable in June. However with the tech they are using and only being 60% they game could possible look much better than it does.

      HOWEVER this is EA and there is no telling if they have the time to put in 40% if their changes. So I am in the wait and see camp.

      Unfortunately for EA we have heard this all before even right up into the cancellation of their last game.

      Only time will tell if they got caught showing too early or If in fact the writing is on the wall.
      Czar...drop a link for your show. I want to tune in.

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      • DBMcGee3
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 1166

        #138
        You had to know it was a bad sign that they had shown so little of the game so far, this late in the process. I've been checking EA's website periodically hoping for a feature list or some screens, videos, whatever, and up until about a week ago they literally had no mention of NBA Live anywhere on their site.

        Ugh, between this unflattering review and the disappointingly familiar looking gameplay vids I saw of 2k13, this may be the first year in as long as I remember that I haven't bought an NBA game. Step it up boys, c'mon!

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        • LRBTODAY
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 92

          #139
          One thing I can say is last yr when 2K presented NBA 2K12 w/ Kobe playing on stage it didn't look all that hot, but the finished product looked at lot better.......Save for the glitches, lockout. rookies, etc. LOL!!!! This yrs basketball video game experience is gonna be straight. Don't get too caught up in the early previews. They aren't gonna show you everything right now. They have these E3 Demos ready for show early on. So its not gonna be what the game is like. Now I don't know what Live will be like, but I know this much. It will be better than Elite 11.

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          • 22cedric
            Pro
            • Jan 2012
            • 501

            #140
            Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

            Originally posted by DBMcGee3
            You had to know it was a bad sign that they had shown so little of the game so far, this late in the process. I've been checking EA's website periodically hoping for a feature list or some screens, videos, whatever, and up until about a week ago they literally had no mention of NBA Live anywhere on their site.

            Ugh, between this unflattering review and the disappointingly familiar looking gameplay vids I saw of 2k13, this may be the first year in as long as I remember that I haven't bought an NBA game. Step it up boys, c'mon!
            Both companies said they're bugs & they early builds presented at E3 & they will be addressed before the game ships so i'm not too worried right now.

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            • EAGLESFAN10
              MVP
              • Nov 2011
              • 2338

              #141
              Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

              Features


              · Smart Spectacular Gameplay – NBA LIVE 13 features smart and spectacular gameplay through Basketball IQ which delivers organic team play as your teammates react and respond to the flow of every game. Driven by Basketball IQ, each team has the ability to adjust quickly to any situation where players can analyze and read off of each other. Gamers will experience the feeling of hitting a cutting player at just the right time for an open lay-up or driving the lane to dish to a teammate for an open jumper – this is real, intelligent, team basketball. Relive those wow moments, and experience what it is like to be Jeremy Lin and deliver the perfect pin-point alley oop pass to a high flying Tyson Chandler!

              · ESPN Broadcast Presentation – NBA basketball fans will enjoy a fully integrated ESPN broadcast package in NBA LIVE 13. The presentation will look, feel and sound like a real NBA broadcast, from detailed player images and arena modeling, to the on-air personalities of ESPN’s #1 commentary team of Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Breen, to authentic camera angles from ESPN’s TV broadcasts that will immerse players in a realistic NBA game experience.

              · Player Authenticity – NBA LIVE 13 features a brand new graphics engine that takes player authenticity to a whole new level! Your favorite NBA players will mirror their real-life counterparts with photorealistic star heads thanks to EA SPORTS state-of-the art technology. In addition to authentic player shoes, tattoos and hair, signature bodies enable NBA LIVE 13 to scale and map every single player to their real-life size and tailor the player model to each individual’s body composition. The game will feature a full package of signature styles for all the top NBA superstars - from look and feel to tendencies and emotions, such as Lebron James’ chase down block.

              · Connecting Experiences – EA SPORTS has always delivered great online experiences and NBA LIVE 13 will feature all-new online features that will keep players connected and competing all year round!"


              The all-new Playmaker Engine leverages world-class animation technology that delivers unprecedented feel, responsiveness and authenticity to NBA LIVE 13.


              Keep these in mind
              Last edited by EAGLESFAN10; 06-06-2012, 10:11 AM.
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              • 22cowboys22
                Banned
                • Jun 2009
                • 38

                #142
                A 60% build after having nearly 3yrs to work on it. this game should be almost finished by now its 4mths to its release and its only at 60% all i can say is WOW.Actually I hope they get it right cause i know it wont be better than nba2k but all you complainers of nba2k need to find out that the grass isnt always greener on the other side.Then you will learn to appreciate what nba2k is and does.

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                • DBMcGee3
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1166

                  #143
                  Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                  Features


                  · Smart Spectacular Gameplay – NBA LIVE 13 features smart and spectacular gameplay through Basketball IQ which delivers organic team play as your teammates react and respond to the flow of every game. Driven by Basketball IQ, each team has the ability to adjust quickly to any situation where players can analyze and read off of each other. Gamers will experience the feeling of hitting a cutting player at just the right time for an open lay-up or driving the lane to dish to a teammate for an open jumper – this is real, intelligent, team basketball. Relive those wow moments, and experience what it is like to be Jeremy Lin and deliver the perfect pin-point alley oop pass to a high flying Tyson Chandler!

                  · ESPN Broadcast Presentation – NBA basketball fans will enjoy a fully integrated ESPN broadcast package in NBA LIVE 13. The presentation will look, feel and sound like a real NBA broadcast, from detailed player images and arena modeling, to the on-air personalities of ESPN’s #1 commentary team of Jeff Van Gundy and Mike Breen, to authentic camera angles from ESPN’s TV broadcasts that will immerse players in a realistic NBA game experience.

                  · Player Authenticity – NBA LIVE 13 features a brand new graphics engine that takes player authenticity to a whole new level! Your favorite NBA players will mirror their real-life counterparts with photorealistic star heads thanks to EA SPORTS state-of-the art technology. In addition to authentic player shoes, tattoos and hair, signature bodies enable NBA LIVE 13 to scale and map every single player to their real-life size and tailor the player model to each individual’s body composition. The game will feature a full package of signature styles for all the top NBA superstars - from look and feel to tendencies and emotions, such as Lebron James’ chase down block.

                  · Connecting Experiences – EA SPORTS has always delivered great online experiences and NBA LIVE 13 will feature all-new online features that will keep players connected and competing all year round!"


                  The all-new Playmaker Engine leverages world-class animation technology that delivers unprecedented feel, responsiveness and authenticity to NBA LIVE 13.


                  Keep these in mind
                  I'm with you man, I really want it to be good, and just something new and refreshing more than anything. 2k has been pretty epic the last few years, despite some obvious flaws, but it's just time for something else, in my opinion. I always loved Live b/c of the dribble controls and what I felt were more accurate player tendencies than 2k (default rosters at least). That being said, this wouldn't be the first time that a developer had told me a million awesome things about a game and then delivered a sub par product.

                  There just seems to be a discrepancy between some of the details of this review and some of the things advertised, and 4 months isn't a ton of time for ironing out kinks. I was hoping for the first couple of hands-on previews I read to be much more positive than this one. That's all I'm saying, we all want a great game here with all the time they've had to put into it.

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                  • EAGLESFAN10
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2338

                    #144
                    Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                    Yea I want Live 2 be GREAT and I have a feelin they showed a 60% game without those features ..... they knew we would react like this

                    Remember when madden started showin vids without the features that we know NOW we was like this is the SAME game then MAGIC happend

                    NBA LIVE is doing the SAME thing..... TRUST ME ..... Im the voice of LIVE haha
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                    Ali/Mayweather
                    Eagles

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                    • bigeastbumrush
                      My Momma's Son
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19245

                      #145
                      Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                      Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                      Yea I want Live 2 be GREAT and I have a feelin they showed a 60% game without those features ..... they knew we would react like this

                      Remember when madden started showin vids without the features that we know NOW we was like this is the SAME game then MAGIC happend

                      NBA LIVE is doing the SAME thing..... TRUST ME ..... Im the voice of LIVE haha
                      Madden already had a foundation to build on.

                      EA was talking about this ANT technology before Elite came out. They even showed us videos of them working with the ANT.

                      I'm at the point where I'll believe it when I see it. Until then...I fully expect the worst especially when Steve has saw it firsthand and wouldn't sit here and just talk it up just to hype it.

                      If it turns out in the end to be a playable game...I'll feel otherwise.

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                      • 22cedric
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 501

                        #146
                        Word from EA is that the #NBALIVE13 build at E3 will not represent the final product. Take that for what it's worth, more previews to come.

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                        • MavsManiac4Life
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1600

                          #147
                          Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                          Originally posted by 22cowboys22
                          A 60% build after having nearly 3yrs to work on it. this game should be almost finished by now its 4mths to its release and its only at 60% all i can say is WOW.Actually I hope they get it right cause i know it wont be better than nba2k but all you complainers of nba2k need to find out that the grass isnt always greener on the other side.Then you will learn to appreciate what nba2k is and does.
                          I found out that they didn't even start development till a year ago or so, so they might not of even had a full year.

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                          • thevaliantx
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 369

                            #148
                            Originally posted by bigsmallwood
                            wow. Not what I wanted to hear about Live 13, but I will wait and see. We may be surprised as we were with Madden this year ;-)
                            There's no "wait and see" here. I have enough history logged up in my noggin to know that there is NEVER much of a difference between a "build" and the "final product". The build IS the foundation of the final product, and if the foundation just isn't there, then the final product ultimately won't, either. No offense meant to you, and I'm sure you're starving for any basketball gaming news you can get your hands on, but go ahead and "wait and see", I'll save my money.

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                            • thevaliantx
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 369

                              #149
                              Originally posted by NoTiCe_O
                              I'll get NBA Live 14
                              No doubt you will, but for those of us who are familiar with EA's history (trust me, the negative preview that EA got on this isn't bothering them one bit because they're loaded with cash), we know that EA will improve some things, and remove other working things. More of the same.

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                              • kwas676
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 520

                                #150
                                Re: NBA Live 13 Preview

                                Originally posted by thevaliantx
                                No doubt you will, but for those of us who are familiar with EA's history (trust me, the negative preview that EA got on this isn't bothering them one bit because they're loaded with cash), we know that EA will improve some things, and remove other working things. More of the same.
                                Ya I'm sure the guys puting in a whole bunch of hours programming Live could careless if there game is getting negative feedback, come on be real right now. I don't think EA as a company wants another failed attempt at a basketball game.

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