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  • Segagendude
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 7940

    #16
    Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

    Looked pretty good!

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    • SeaNNyT
      Pro
      • Jul 2006
      • 657

      #17
      Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

      They need to implement way more realistic puck physics and it's interactions with stick play. The puck never feathers or bounces in anyway, and it kills any sense that this is simulating hockey, but rather you are playing a arcade style game.

      It's a shame that this still is overlooked. Why is it they never can make multiple huge improvements per year, it's always one big thing and then charge 60 dollars?

      I didn't purchase the game last year and don't plan on it this year, just based off the fact that I don't expect improvements in the aforementioned areas. Yes it's great they finally addressed the skating, but why not also address other areas of gameplay as well?
      S E A N N y T

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      • savoie2006
        R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
        • Sep 2006
        • 4657

        #18
        Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

        Originally posted by SeaNNyT
        They need to implement way more realistic puck physics and it's interactions with stick play. The puck never feathers or bounces in anyway, and it kills any sense that this is simulating hockey, but rather you are playing a arcade style game.

        It's a shame that this still is overlooked. Why is it they never can make multiple huge improvements per year, it's always one big thing and then charge 60 dollars?

        I didn't purchase the game last year and don't plan on it this year, just based off the fact that I don't expect improvements in the aforementioned areas. Yes it's great they finally addressed the skating, but why not also address other areas of gameplay as well?
        I imgaine the puck would be the trickiest of all to get to behave realistically, especially on the stick. They also claim to have improved the AI, along with the skating. Don't know what exactly you're expecting. If this all works as it should, this will be the greatest set of improvements this game has seen.
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        • DarkFudge
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 344

          #19
          Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

          while I do appreciate a more advanced physics based skating engine...when you said you dont know what your expecting, I for one would expect to see much more variety, interactions and realism in goalie animations so we dont see the same repetitive cycle of scripted animations triggered over and over on every shot and scrums in front of the net would then actually resemble something we see in the real NHL.

          I would also expect to see ratings of players actually generate more dynamic and varied results on the ice similar to what we saw 2K Hockey incorporate with 2K8 and 2K10. As it is now, every game against every team feels too much like carbon copies of each other with different colored uniforms and names. There is no subtle distinctions between teams or actual players on the ice. So the games feel more like technology engine demos rather than completely organic matches.


          Before EA focuses on Improved Presentation (which, btw I want just as much as others do) I think they need to really address these above concerns to take this game to the next level that it has been so stuck in since 2008.
          Last edited by DarkFudge; 05-18-2012, 09:36 PM.

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          • bukktown
            MVP
            • Jan 2007
            • 3257

            #20
            Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

            So....Does this mean I won't be able to spin o rama with Greg Zanon anymore?

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            • savoie2006
              R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
              • Sep 2006
              • 4657

              #21
              Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

              Originally posted by DarkFudge
              while I do appreciate a more advanced physics based skating engine...when you said you dont know what your expecting, I for one would expect to see much more variety, interactions and realism in goalie animations so we dont see the same repetitive cycle of scripted animations triggered over and over on every shot and scrums in front of the net would then actually resemble something we see in the real NHL.

              I would also expect to see ratings of players actually generate more dynamic and varied results on the ice similar to what we saw 2K Hockey incorporate with 2K8 and 2K10. As it is now, every game against every team feels too much like carbon copies of each other with different colored uniforms and names. There is no subtle distinctions between teams or actual players on the ice. So the games feel more like technology engine demos rather than completely organic matches.


              Before EA focuses on Improved Presentation (which, btw I want just as much as others do) I think they need to really address these above concerns to take this game to the next level that it has been so stuck in since 2008.

              Well maybe, just maybe this will help:

              EA SPORTS Hockey IQ


              A completely overhauled A.I. system, players are now fully aware of every other player on the ice, resulting in quicker, smarter and more true-to-life decision-making. EA SPORTS Hockey IQ also delivers the deepest and most customizable set of real-world hockey systems and strategies ever for the franchise.
              Now I'm not saying this is going to be the answer or even that all these cool new features are gonna make the game what it should be. However, I think until proven otherwise, there's reason for some optimism. As I said, this game has the potential of being the most improved of the series by far.
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              • tofubrain2
                Banned
                • Mar 2008
                • 812

                #22
                Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                the deepest and most customizable set of real-world hockey systems and strategies ever for the franchise
                ^^^^This. I'm excited to see what this is

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                • sportzbro
                  MVP
                  • May 2008
                  • 3892

                  #23
                  Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                  Now this is what you do in a dev. cycle. I loved NHL 12, and this appears to be a giant upgrade.

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                  • savoie2006
                    R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 4657

                    #24
                    Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                    Originally posted by tofubrain2
                    ^^^^This. I'm excited to see what this is
                    This could be and hopefully is the key to each team playing differently, maybe each line as well
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                    • Vikes1
                      Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
                      • May 2008
                      • 4102

                      #25
                      Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                      Originally posted by savoie2006
                      This could be and hopefully is the key to each team playing differently, maybe each line as well
                      Really hoping Savoie, that '13' moves us at least closer to actually seeing/feeling this. This would be a major "wow" for me.

                      As I've said a lot...I still really dig this game. But have to admit like many others have said...yep, the games in the BEAGM mode just kinda meld into another, and another, etc... Here's to hoping NHL '13' addresses this noticeably.
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                      • TreyIM2
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1424

                        #26
                        I musta watched this vid about 10 times. I'm not even a hockey fan, per se, although I do watch it here and there, but I just LOVE how the players look when skating. Seems like a "skate planting" tech implementation of sorts. Lol. Maybe they will give this tech to their football franchises...so they DON'T look like they're ice skating on the field. Heh.
                        Just cuz you pour syrup on ish....

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                        • Broncos86
                          Orange and Blue!
                          • May 2009
                          • 5505

                          #27
                          Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                          I'm going to be that guy that says "meh" to it. The A.I. improvements will be nice, if they pan out, because I've chewed out my virtual players more often than not in how they play. But the one aspect I've wanted focused on was Be a GM. That mode has so many aspects that need improvement. I'm tired of the extremely limited number of years for stats that are retained. Scouting, the draft, etc. It needs so much love. I really hope the "GM Connected" stuff includes offline Be a GM improvements. Because I don't care AT ALL for online Be a GM stuff.

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                          • mcmax3000
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 203

                            #28
                            Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                            Originally posted by SeaNNyT
                            Why is it they never can make multiple huge improvements per year, it's always one big thing and then charge 60 dollars?
                            Because, even given the fact that they're updating last year's game, a year is still not an overly lengthy amount of time to make a game. It's certainly not a long amount of time to make multiple huge changes & make sure they actually work decently.

                            Plus, there's also the business end of things where they know that they have to sell another version 12 months later. If they give you everything you want this year, people will complain the next year when there aren't any more big changes.

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                            • BlackXEyes
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1479

                              #29
                              Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                              am going to give NHL 13 : C-
                              and NHL 12 : C+

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                              • Yeats
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 1581

                                #30
                                Re: NHL 13 Video - True Performance Skating Revealed

                                Originally posted by BlackXEyes
                                am going to give NHL 13 : C-
                                and NHL 12 : C+
                                Nothing to do in Powell River, huh? I know, I've been there.

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