NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Details, Arrives Tomorrow

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

i had clutch factor on, and even then the CPU was still missing shots when it should - there were a few cheese shots by the CPU in the 3rd and 4th quarter, but i think that could've been due to the clutch factor being on.

yea and those "cheese' shots by the cpu in the 3rd and 4th quarters don't even compare to the cheese of cpu pre-patch. I would say the cpu plays good as hell down the stretch. i really see star players trying to put the game away. I'm loving it.

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

I can't speak for everyone, but I was definitely one of those guys who felt the game was unbalanced and challenging in a cheating way before the patch. When guys say the game is easier, we're saying that the cheapness factor is pretty much gone. Yes, there is still some mirroring and on-ball defense is still problematic, but the CPU isn't playing above itself anymore. You can now contest shots and actually affect the shot percentage. Your A.I. teammates also play smarter. To me, those things have nothing to do with some learning curve. Those are elements that should have been available to the user from the jump. All I wanted is that feeling that my actions impact the game. Some of us actually know the game of basketball and aren't complaining about the game pre-patch because we're sore losers. Saying the game is easier on the higher settings just means that the CPU is actually beatable with proper play and execution. Even Da Czar didn't play on that difficulty at launch. Are you going to say he doesn't know basketball either?

What I am saying, is the same thing I've said in my last several posts. I will reserve judgement for when I experience it myself, as I would imagine anyone of you would do also. I understand whats being said, but as my previous post should have communicated, all that is irrelevant because much of it is perception/opinion. The computer is beatable with proper play and execution out the box. I play on superstar/sim, have no cheese tactics in me and am able to win at a realistic clip. Were there AI favored imbalances? Absolutely. I don't think any basketball video game has ever been perfect or ever will be.

I appreciate you sharing your feedback and it is noted. I might agree with you when I experience the patch and I might not.

[theenemy]

Quote: Originally Posted by mars5541

yea and those "cheese' shots by the cpu in the 3rd and 4th quarters don't even compare to the cheese of cpu pre-patch. I would say the cpu plays good as hell down the stretch. i really see star players trying to put the game away. I'm loving it.

it's better for sure.

by "cheese" I mean this:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043151796

beat me because you play better basketball and I love the challenge. Beat me by going through me, annoying. Glad it doesn't happen vs human players.

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedmanR

Dude put a lid on it ok. . . the patch clean-up a lot of on the court issues. The game-play is a lot smoother, more balanced, spacing and movement is better, controls are more responsive, player control improved, less bumping, cpu doesn't hold the ball as often late in the shot clock. Is it perfect not at all. Has the playability been eased. . . feels like it has to me, but that's a good thing as it's still very challenging to play on pro/allstar. I haven't tried superstar yet. Somethings I noticed right off the top that I wished where addressed are 1. Boxing out on rebounds. 2. Effective double teams. 3. Pick-and-roll play. 4. Fast break catch-up speed reduced. 5. Cpu recovery speed reduced. I haven't touched Association, My Player or Online yet. I want to wait until the majority of the NBA transactions have been completed or a newly custom hex edited roster becomes available cough*(PP,Tomba and crew) As for everyone making your BLIND impressions when you don't even have the patch or let alone the game. . . just stop-it. Stop with all the history repeats itself BS ok. Get it. . . and voice your own impression(s). Thanks to 2K for the hook-up but I really who've been highly impressed if my 5 game-play issues above would've gotten addressed. NBA 2K12 is still a really good game of basketball.

I didn't make any blind impressions. I merely said I will reserve my opinion for when I experience the patch and that some of the impressions in the PS3 thread do not necessarily excite me. Funny how sensitive some guys are. It's simply how I feel about it. Doesn't mean the patch does or does not improve the game.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Quote: Originally Posted by eko718

I didn't make any blind impressions. I merely said I will reserve my opinion for when I experience the patch and that some of the impressions in the PS3 thread do not necessarily excite me. Funny how sensitive some guys are. It's simply how I feel about it. Doesn't mean the patch does or does not improve the game.

I don't blame u for reserving Judgement at all. You should take everything we say in mind not to heart.

Quote: Originally Posted by theenemy

it's better for sure. by "cheese" I mean this: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043151796 beat me because you play better basketball and I love the challenge. Beat me by going through me, annoying. Glad it doesn't happen vs human players.

lmfao! oh .thats terrible. i haven't seen it post patch though not yet. but dang lol

[theenemy]

Quote: Originally Posted by mars5541

I don't blame u for reserving Judgement at all. You should take everything we say in mind not to heart. lmfao! oh .thats terrible. i haven't seen it post patch though not yet. but dang lol

yeah man - last night (after patch) I saved at least 5 snapshots and 1-2 replays with the same thing happening. This is how they get the run going in the first place too. amazing how they went backwards on collision detection.

[miraiii]

are there any changes to the morphing/bad collision?

[Lyvean]

So, is it official that the cpu doesn't double team?