NBA 2K12 Demo Roundtable

[scottyp180]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheKasmar

I wonder how many times they played the demo? It's the type of game where if you arent familiar with the controls then it can damper the experience. I can understand how a new user could come away more frustrated than impressed.

This is something I'm wondering too. Out of any game I got out of the pass year 2k11 got the most play, so once I started the 2k12 demo I noticed an immediate difference to the feel and controls which threw off my game a bit but once I looked up the controls and played the demo more it felt natural.

For those who don't like the controls and/or feel of the game did you actually look up the new control scheme for this year and read the control insight? Because without reading these I wouldn't know how to do half the moves I do and there is still tons more that I haven't figured out yet (waiting for retail to use training camp and get moves done pat).

[Colts18]

Quote:

Jayson Young: "NBA 2K12 seems to focus too much on the flash and glamour of basketball and not enough on the sport's fundamentals."

What the hell dude?

[TreyIM2]

Quote: Originally Posted by scottyp180

This is something I'm wondering too. Out of any game I got out of the pass year 2k11 got the most play, so once I started the 2k12 demo I noticed an immediate difference to the feel and controls which threw off my game a bit but once I looked up the controls and played the demo more it felt natural. For those who don't like the controls and/or feel of the game did you actually look up the new control scheme for this year and read the control insight? Because without reading these I wouldn't know how to do half the moves I do and there is still tons more that I haven't figured out yet (waiting for retail to use training camp and get moves done pat).

Apart of the problem with NBA2K is how the animations and momentum take you OUT OF CONTROL of the player. What it really comes down to is KNOWING the animations and how they play out. This game doesn't balance the fast twitch aspect of playing a video game very well. Not to mention, the control scheme can feel very un-intuitive and convoluted.
U add these things together and many a time a person is doing moves that they don't feel they actually did themselves. NBA 2K has had this feeling for a long time, now, seemingly since 2KSports took over the brand and I remember saying this to one of my friends while playing 2K6. I got fed up and left 2K7, and Live 07, for that matter, lol, in the stores not even bothering to buy a basketball game that year.

Now, after more and more play of this demo, I really believe there was a placebo effect that got to the NBA2K diehards. And what's funny is how if someone tried to speak on how this demo doesn't feel much different than 2K11, they'd get "textually" beat down on here but THEN you have someone in this roundtable who mentions how they've played the actual retail version and they basically confirm that this demo is not as tight, control wise, as the final version. Who deserves that beatdown, now? Brainwashing is very pervasive in this world and this site is not immune to it. Some of us see much clearer than others but popular thought blinds many...

[deejay2]

I'm a big sports game lover. I bought Xbox 360 just becouse Nba 2k8. But now I'm pissed off! There is not enough new things in NBA 2k every year. Passing still looks like a crap, player animations are also faaaaar from smooth. 2k will remaking this game for the next 50 years and after that we still won't get perfect basketball game. Believe me they could improve game a lot more every year but they don't want to!

[TheKasmar]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

Apart of the problem with NBA2K is how the animations and momentum take you OUT OF CONTROL of the player. What it really comes down to is KNOWING the animations and how they play out. This game doesn't balance the fast twitch aspect of playing a video game very well. Not to mention, the control scheme can feel very un-intuitive and convoluted. U add these things together and many a time a person is doing moves that they don't feel they actually did themselves.

Well said. This is why putting down 2k11 was a little easier for me because I know how all the animations are going to play out. Yes, I know how to avoid those annoying bump, charge, and steal animations, but at this point it feels like a chore and cant wait to play 2k12. With the changes made I hope to see less predictable gameplay for 2k12 also.

[CX1329]

Quote: Originally Posted by deejay2

I'm a big sports game lover. I bought Xbox 360 just becouse Nba 2k8. But now I'm pissed off! There is not enough new things in NBA 2k every year. Passing still looks like a crap, player animations are also faaaaar from smooth. 2k will remaking this game for the next 50 years and after that we still won't get perfect basketball game. Believe me they could improve game a lot more every year but they don't want to!

I'm all for constructive criticism, but this isn't much more than a semi-elaborate version of "THIS GAME SUCKS!!". I'd be discouraged if I was a developer and read something like this.

[mrmass413]

i playd all 2k b-ball games and 2k11 was the best. this year seems better to me no game is perfect but it is the closest to the real thing imo. u have total control on collisions that alone warrants first day buy imo. besides they said demo is no where near as smooth as retail

[elprez98]

Well I think the round table is fine. It gives a good spectrum of opinions, as it should.

Steve comes across a 2k fan who appreciates some of the finer details that have been updated in 2k12.
Jayson comes across a Live fan who is understandably disappointed that 2k is the only game on the market.
Caley seems like the casual fan with whom basketball isn't his sport of choice, but enjoys the presentation in 2k12.

Dustin is the guy most likely to play with the Grizzlies and use Rudy Gay way too muc........wait wrong thread.

I think Dustin's opinion is a bit unfairly skewed due to the fact that he's already played a later build. In my opinion, this is one of the few times I'd be happy that my favorite game's demo is considered, "underwhelming."