NHL 12 Video - 2 More Legends, Mario Lemieux and Gordie Howe

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[FBeaule04]

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Good choices in both case, nothing to say about that.

Was too funny to see Lemieux in a Leafs jersey while Howe wearing a Wild uni.

[Al_Tito13]

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I think that Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Bourque and Roy were obvious choices, they had to be there. However, Yzerman, Chelios, Salming and especially Roenick were good players, but I don't consider them as the 9 greatest "legends" ever. There may be unknown reasons to explain why others like Orr, Coffey, Lafleur and Richard are not in there, but I certainly wish they would. A complete team of legends would have been nice too, not only 9 of them.

[Bolts_26]

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I think that Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Bourque and Roy were obvious choices, they had to be there. However, like many others already said, Yzerman, Chelios, Salming and especially Roenick were good players, but I don't consider them as "legends". There may be unknown reasons to explain why others like Orr, Coffey, Lafleur and Richard are not in there, but I certainly wish they would. A complete team of legends would have been nice too, not only 9 of them.

Agree with you on most counts here (although I think there is no doubt that Stevie Y is a legend..All-star,Conn Smythe,3 cups,Lester Pearson winner, and sixth overall in points for NHL history) but there is no doubt that Bobby Orr, perhaps the greatest D-man of all time,and many others deserved to be in there.

[AngelPingu]

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I'm okay with Chelios and Yzerman. I don't know if the "Be a Legend" mode includes milestone, or challenges to accomplish, but would've been better if they had like 20 legends.

[Al_Tito13]

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Bolts_26, I agree with you that Yzerman was a great player, don't get me wrong, but I could name a list of players who were just as good. In a full team of legends, no doubt he has his place in there, but I don't think he's one of the 9 greatest players of all time, this is what I wanted to say.

[toadiev]

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Bolts_26, I agree with you that Yzerman was a great player, don't get me wrong, but I could name a list of players who were just as good. In a full team of legends, no doubt he has his place in there, but I don't think he's one of the 9 greatest players of all time, this is what I wanted to say.

You would be hard pressed to name a better two way player in history then Steve Yzerman. This was a player who could have put up gawdy numbers for his whole career but he chose to alter his game and became one of the games most dominant two way players in history. Gretzky and Lemieux didn't even know they had a goalie. Rumour has it that one time Gretzky asked Grant Fuhr why he was in the dressing room if he didn't play in the games.

Yzerman is for certain a legend and definitely fitting of being at the top of this list.

Salming broke down borders and paved the way for players like Forsberg to make an impact in the NHL, that is aside from the fact he was a great defenseman.

Sure for whatever legal reasons there are some more fitting of being there than Chelios and Roenick but it is what it is.

[tofubrain2]

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what about brett hull? jeez

[GrandMaster B]

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Maybe more will be available for DLC.

[Al_Tito13]

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It's a good thing to know that many people are happy with the choice of Yzerman as one of the 9 legends. To me, the bests ever are Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe, Richard, Roy, Bourque, Lafleur, Coffey, Beliveau, Messier, Esposito, Harvey, Bossy, Bobby Hull and some others. Like I said before, even if he was great, I never thought Yzerman was one of the 10 or even 15 greatest players of all time, but hey, I may also be wrong. It could be a long debate, everyone has his own opinion and preferences, so it's all good, I don't think there's a good or a bad answer about it.

[plaidchuck]

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You would be hard pressed to name a better two way player in history then Steve Yzerman. This was a player who could have put up gawdy numbers for his whole career but he chose to alter his game and became one of the games most dominant two way players in history. Gretzky and Lemieux didn't even know they had a goalie. Rumour has it that one time Gretzky asked Grant Fuhr why he was in the dressing room if he didn't play in the games.

Yzerman is for certain a legend and definitely fitting of being at the top of this list.

Salming broke down borders and paved the way for players like Forsberg to make an impact in the NHL, that is aside from the fact he was a great defenseman.

Sure for whatever legal reasons there are some more fitting of being there than Chelios and Roenick but it is what it is.

Agreed, you can't ignore though that Lemieux played for 5 years with zero supporting talent on his team and gave Gretzky a run for his money on records. Also Lemieux put up 60+ goal seasons at the beginning of the dead puck era, nothing to sneeze at.

[RealmK]

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I think that Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe, Bourque and Roy were obvious choices, they had to be there. However, like many others already said, Yzerman, Chelios, Salming and especially Roenick were good players, but I don't consider them as "legends". There may be unknown reasons to explain why others like Orr, Coffey, Lafleur and Richard are not in there, but I certainly wish they would. A complete team of legends would have been nice too, not only 9 of them.

I don't think Roy need to be there. There were better tenders imo, Cheevers, Dryden, Sawchuk just as a few examples.

Roenick never won a cup, Orr won 2, set scoring records as a defenseman and could outskate just about anyone of his era. Heck I'd even put Hull above JR by a landslide.
Some of these legend choices to me are flat out head scratchers.

[Qb]

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I can only assume the selection process was heavily dictated by licensing issues. Some players -- or whoever controls their estates for the old-timers -- may have simply declined or demanded compensation beyond what EA was willing to pay. Looking at it as some sort of statement on who is better than whom is rather pointless.

[13whitebread]

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If you don't know they call the Gordie Howe hat trick. Scoring a goal an assist and winning a fight all possible in NHL 12 by EA sports my question is can you get an Achievement for this hint hint EA Sports. I think this Gordie character is serious about his Hockey.

[JOHN 3:16]

You would be hard pressed to name a better two way player in history then Steve Yzerman. This was a player who could have put up gawdy numbers for his whole career but he chose to alter his game and became one of the games most dominant two way players in history. Gretzky and Lemieux didn't even know they had a goalie. Rumour has it that one time Gretzky asked Grant Fuhr why he was in the dressing room if he didn't play in the games.

Yzerman is for certain a legend and definitely fitting of being at the top of this list.

Salming broke down borders and paved the way for players like Forsberg to make an impact in the NHL, that is aside from the fact he was a great defenseman.

Sure for whatever legal reasons there are some more fitting of being there than Chelios and Roenick but it is what it is.

Your right about Lemieux didn't know he had a goalie in regular season. But in the playoffs he played both ways.