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Old 03-23-2011, 12:59 AM   #281
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I looked and the thing that pops up or at least the only thing i see is Gameplanning and its attached to the Tease below. But I of course hope youre right. Whatever has been stopping Madden from looking good is beyond me.
Here's what I'm talking about, it happens just before the custom playbook video comes up:

http://img121.imageshack.us/i/maddenteaser.png/
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Video - First Look Reveals Custom Playbooks, What Else Can You Find

I love that last year, all they focused on was gameplay and people were like
"OMGZORS WE WANT FEATURES AND WHAT ABOUT FRANCHISE MODE!!!????"

Now, they say they are doing more features, enhancements to modes, and redesigning franchise mode and now of course its all
"THey need to focus ONLY ON GAMEPLAY. WHat is wrong with them?!"

I cant wait for Madden.
Im not even a franchise guy, but I just like what I saw with the foot planting and supposed 3d grass.
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:47 AM   #283
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Video - First Look Reveals Custom Playbooks, What Else Can You Find

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Why is it so hard to understand that there wasn't nearly enough actual gameplay shown in a TEASER to make that judgment?

If i had a nickle for every time someone said that, i would be rich! Come on now seriously? It's Madden we are talking about.. Its the same gameplay every year regardless of what they show...
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:28 AM   #284
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I love that last year, all they focused on was gameplay and people were like
"OMGZORS WE WANT FEATURES AND WHAT ABOUT FRANCHISE MODE!!!????"

Now, they say they are doing more features, enhancements to modes, and redesigning franchise mode and now of course its all
"THey need to focus ONLY ON GAMEPLAY. WHat is wrong with them?!"

I cant wait for Madden.
Im not even a franchise guy, but I just like what I saw with the foot planting and supposed 3d grass.
I'm in the gameplay camp. No amount of presentation, player tendencies etc. will make any difference if they don't address gameplay. I'm mean why would you want any RB to run out of bounce with the current state of gameplay? You'll most likely get a forward falling animation if you run into defenders. The reason why player tendencies works so well in, say, FIFA 11 is because they've implemented it on top of really solid gameplay.

And last year they didn't focus solely on gameplay. The biggest marketing gimmick last year was GameFlow/GamePlanning. And while they might have addressed Run Blocking AI, it was back to status quo as soon as the blocking reached the second level. And sideline catches wasn't a new gameplay feature, it was just the first year it seemed to work. Etc. Etc.

From the teaser (the two field goal attempts) the OL/DL interaction looks exactly the same as previous years. People morph into 1-on-1 animations (in the second video - on the left side - you can clearly see a player being morphed several feet into a defender) and a single player is left untouched, so he can attempt to block the field goal. Additionally, if you look at the surprise onside kick, it looks like the diving animation is motion shifting the defender out of the way, showing absolutely no respect for momentum.

The only thing I'm left "reassured" of after watching the teaser is that Tiburon probably won't be addressing major gameplay concerns - otherwise they would have shown some tackles and/or proper OL/DL interactions in the teaser.

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I wonder if custom playbooks will work for online franchise?

I'm torn on weather or not I want them to...

On one hand, it would be cool to bring your favorite plays and formations online and compete vs others in your online chise.

On the other hand, I don't feel like defending the same 5 or 6 money plays from the different playbooks all game long...
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I wonder if custom playbooks will work for online franchise?

I'm torn on weather or not I want them to...

On one hand, it would be cool to bring your favorite plays and formations online and compete vs others in your online chise.

On the other hand, I don't feel like defending the same 5 or 6 money plays from the different playbooks all game long...
That's the only iffy part to me. I'm not much of an online gamer, but if by chance they do allow them online, I'm lucky enough to know a bunch of sim gamers. Hopefully you do as well.
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I'm in the gameplay camp. No amount of presentation, player tendencies etc. will make any difference if they don't address gameplay. I'm mean why would you want any RB to run out of bounce with the current state of gameplay? You'll most likely get a forward falling animation if you run into defenders. The reason why player tendencies works so well in, say, FIFA 11 is because they've implemented it on top of really solid gameplay.

And last year they didn't focus solely on gameplay. The biggest marketing gimmick last year was GameFlow/GamePlanning. And while they might have addressed Run Blocking AI, it was back to status quo as soon as the blocking reached the second level. And sideline catches wasn't a new gameplay feature, it was just the first year it seemed to work. Etc. Etc.

From the teaser (the two field goal attempts) the OL/DL interaction looks exactly the same as previous years. People morph into 1-on-1 animations (in the second video - on the left side - you can clearly see a player being morphed several feet into a defender) and a single player is left untouched, so he can attempt to block the field goal. Additionally, if you look at the surprise onside kick, it looks like the diving animation is motion shifting the defender out of the way, showing absolutely no respect for momentum.

The only thing I'm left "reassured" of after watching the teaser is that Tiburon probably won't be addressing major gameplay concerns - otherwise they would have shown some tackles and/or proper OL/DL interactions in the teaser.
Wow, I agree with this 100%. Great post dude! Broski did say they can't show much new game play currently, so I hope that was just features on the old M11 game. So now, those things won't happen when they show the M12 game play. Can't wait until the game play blog, and I really hope there is MANY crucial additions on it, especially the ones you named above.
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