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[tvman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChaseB

I was all over the place with Sanchez, probably because two of his pitching motions are relatively challenging, and his control is not great so even hard to paint with fastball.

Any idea what level you might have been playing on, were sliders adjusted?

[swaldo]

I took a look at the possible "aggressive CPU batters" issue and put myself in a several 3-0 counts. This (along with all the annoying flashing lights) could be a game killer for me so I wanted to take a close look. Here are the results from one game...

CPU ON 3-0 COUNTS:

Swung: 3 times (all 3 were strikes)
Took: 7 times (4 were balls, 3 were strikes)

Basically if you're around the edge or corner the CPU might take even if it's a strike.

CPU ON 3-1 COUNTS:

Swung: 4 times (all 4 were strikes)
Took: 1 time (strike)

Doesn't look too bad, but here is what I have a problem with...

• Leadoff hitters swinging on 3-0 counts (happened at least twice.)
• At least four times the CPU swung at balls outside the zone on 1-0 or 2-0 counts. If 90% of what I'm throwing is balls why so aggressive? Where's the AI?
• Only once did the CPU appear to take a pitch rather than read & react. On a 3-1 pitch I threw a meatball right down the middle and it watched it.

Here is the biggest problem: One of the balls was thrown purposely way high & outside and was hit to the opposite field for a HR. Whoa, wut? The only probelm is there's no replay to look at - and the pitchers composure was shot by then. However, it looked in real time like it was way high & outside the zone and if I saw it correctly the batter went into a "reach" animation. In any case it didn't look realistic at all.

[serialmke]

Quote: Originally Posted by swaldo

I took a look at the possible "aggressive CPU batters" issue and put myself in a several 3-0 counts. This (along with all the annoying flashing lights) could be a game killer for me so I wanted to take a close look. Here are the results from one game... CPU ON 3-0 COUNTS: Swung: 3 times (all 3 were strikes) Took: 7 times (4 were balls, 3 were strikes) Basically if you're around the edge or corner the CPU might take even if it's a strike. CPU ON 3-1 COUNTS: Swung: 4 times (all 4 were strikes) Took: 1 time (strike) Doesn't look too bad, but here is what I have a problem with... Leadoff hitters swinging on 3-0 counts (happened at least twice.) At least four times the CPU swung at balls outside the zone on 1-0 or 2-0 counts. If 90% of what I'm throwing is balls why so aggressive? Where's the AI? Only once did the CPU appear to take a pitch rather than read & react. On a 3-1 pitch I threw a meatball right down the middle and it watched it. Here is the biggest problem: One of the balls was thrown purposely way high & outside and was hit to the opposite field for a HR. Whoa, wut? The only probelm is there's no replay to look at - and the pitchers composure was shot by then. However, it looked in real time like it was way high & outside the zone and if I recall correctly the batter went into a "reach" animation. In any case it didn't look realistic at all.

Your sample pool is way way way way oh yeah and way to small.

[buckeyesfan27]

Best 2k Baseball game demo that i have played. MLB 11 The Show is a Good game but i feel it's too boring. there graphics are good but there pitching for the show is horrible. 2k Feels more like a Baseball Game. The Pitching is awesome. Fielding is much better. and the hitting is cool. So i will be picking up 2k on day 1. and will be using my Red Legs on 2k. Go Reds! love 2k. But the show is good. but the Edge should go to the 2k series this year.

[swaldo]

Quote: Originally Posted by serialmke

Your sample pool is way way way way oh yeah and way to small.

I dunno, if I was a MLB manager and watched my leadoff hitter pop-up on a 3-0 count I'd only need one sample

But in general I guess the jury is still out - I'm just noting what I saw.

[tvman]

It's likely hard to do any sort of AI testing until we have the retail version of the game.

I do like some things to be weird and wonderful as there are a lot of strange happenings in baseball, don't like a game that is totally "by the book".

[Trevytrev11]

Quote: Originally Posted by serialmke

Your sample pool is way way way way oh yeah and way to small.

It is, but the logic has been faulty forever, so even though it's not 50 or 100 batters, etc. it still shows, even in such a small sample size, that it doesn't look to be right. I'd put my money on the fact that if he did the same thing 100 times, the results would be close to what he just experienced.

As far as all of the logic in every other facet of the game, some very basic logic could be input to make the results of this seem very realistic. We could probably come up with 5 quick rules that, if put into the logic of the game, could fix the issue for 95+% of the situations. (I would guess that Juan Pierre has swung at less than two 3-0 pitches in his MLB career)

[tvman]

Quote: Originally Posted by swaldo

I dunno, if I was a MLB manager and watched my leadoff hitter pop-up on a 3-0 count I'd only need one sample But in general I guess the jury is still out - I'm just noting what I saw.

Might be time for your leadoff hitter to be ridin' the pine for a while after that incident. By the way was it Torres?