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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Carraggi's Corner: FIFAmerica



    It's no secret that international football is utterly lost on the majority of Americans. Yes, generally speaking, soccer is becoming more popular in the States, but we Yanks still can't even call it by its proper name. It's backwards, inside-out and upside-down. It's closest relative in the the States is hockey, which has far deeper roots in Canada.

    EA's FIFA series has nonetheless become the company's cash cow (sorry Madden) in recent years, a position it would be hard-pressed to be in if not for the American dollars being shelled out for it. But FIFA is the only major sports title not primarily geared towards an American audience, even if it admittedly makes some compromises to attract said audience.

    What exactly is it that average American soccer fans (like myself) want from soccer games, and how could FIFA better suit them? In rapid-fire style, let's flop -- er, dive in.

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  • Adzs K2
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 90

    #2
    7 on 7 would never work especially as its traditional here i mainland europe for it to be played by 7-11 year olds with smaller balls and pithches it just wouldnt be right....5 aside in a 'cage (ala fifa street) is thew most obvious option for this 1....

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    • kenliving
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 18

      #3
      you want high scoring? are you also happy with madden being ultra-offense happy? fifa 10 was a farce when it came to scoring goals, hopefully they tone it down for fifa 11

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      • CeltBhoy33
        Love Celtic, Hate Racism
        • Dec 2005
        • 1446

        #4
        Sorry lad but Rivalries be lost amongst fans of San Jose and Philly Union? Most MLS fans are very intelligent when it comes to footy. If you were to say at a Fire watch party and you strike up a conversation about Celtic v.s Rangers you would have many lads coming up to you talking about the rivalry and how great it is. Not a bunch of wee clueless idiots asking why would the Texas Rangers by playing the Boston Celtics. They have also addressed the manager mode are working on it from what I have read.
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        • sinc79
          Rookie
          • Feb 2009
          • 67

          #5
          so you are asking FIFA to educate you on the game? you would like FIFA to create a sense of urgency and excitement for you? I personally fell in love with the game during this past World Cup and am like a kid in the candy store now as I'm exploring the beauty of this game at the club level. I'm a huge college football guy, but honestly once you get past the low scoring and the draws, the game really is incredible. Anything can happen in soccer. I would argue that the ability to have a draw makes the league standings and season so much more interesting and keeps so many more teams involved. Plus, the sheer fact that teams can drop out of the top leagues for poor performance and teams in the lower divisions can earn their way up is absolutely the greatest thing in sports. Imagine if the Pittsburgh Pirates had the AAA staring them in the face every year. Changes things doesn't it? Anyway I'm rambling. You just need to get over the soccer hump see how great the game is, then you'll actually enjoy playing it on your console.

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          • Whitesox
            Closet pyromaniac
            • Mar 2009
            • 5287

            #6
            Re: Carraggi's Corner: FIFAmerica

            It's crazy to think someone might buy a game just because it has a 7 on 7 mode. I quite object to this notion. I don't want to play 9-6 games. Not sure I know anyone, fan or not, that does.

            Could the explain the transfer system better? Sure.

            these types of rivalries might be lost on the normal fans of the San Jose Earthquakes and the Philadelphia Union.
            This is a slap in the face to fans of the MLS.
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            • Adzs K2
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 90

              #7
              Originally posted by sinc79
              so you are asking FIFA to educate you on the game? you would like FIFA to create a sense of urgency and excitement for you? I personally fell in love with the game during this past World Cup and am like a kid in the candy store now as I'm exploring the beauty of this game at the club level. I'm a huge college football guy, but honestly once you get past the low scoring and the draws, the game really is incredible. Anything can happen in soccer. I would argue that the ability to have a draw makes the league standings and season so much more interesting and keeps so many more teams involved. Plus, the sheer fact that teams can drop out of the top leagues for poor performance and teams in the lower divisions can earn their way up is absolutely the greatest thing in sports. Imagine if the Pittsburgh Pirates had the AAA staring them in the face every year. Changes things doesn't it? Anyway I'm rambling. You just need to get over the soccer hump see how great the game is, then you'll actually enjoy playing it on your console.
              Agreed this is why football (soccer) is by far the worlds most popular sport, and in many countries like my own its more than a game, its a religion ;P however the fact that anything is possible makes it painful also (Asamoah gyans penalty still gives me nightmares and im not even of african descent ...)

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              • CeltBhoy33
                Love Celtic, Hate Racism
                • Dec 2005
                • 1446

                #8
                I agree completely whitesox. A thought process like that is trying to take offsides away from the game or overtime.
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                • CeltBhoy33
                  Love Celtic, Hate Racism
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1446

                  #9
                  Also things like google can teach people about transfers and loans. It's not very hard to comprehend what a transfer or a loan is.
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                  • addybojangles
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 99

                    #10
                    You guys are on a SPORTS GAMING WEBSITE commenting on a story about SOCCER.

                    Mr. Carraggi isn't talking about YOU. You guys aren't casual fans of soccer or of sports games on consoles.

                    Re-read his last paragraph:

                    "Not all of these off-hand suggestions necessarily add to the sim aspects of the game, and many of the ***more knowledgeable fans of the game would object***, but the majority of these additions would be completely optional to help ease fringe fans into the game."

                    This is for the guy who sees FIFA on the counter, remembers watching some games of the World Cup and being slightly amused.

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                    • RaychelSnr
                      Executive Editor
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4845

                      #11
                      Originally posted by addybojangles
                      You guys are on a SPORTS GAMING WEBSITE commenting on a story about SOCCER.

                      Mr. Carraggi isn't talking about YOU. You guys aren't casual fans of soccer or of sports games on consoles.

                      Re-read his last paragraph:

                      "Not all of these off-hand suggestions necessarily add to the sim aspects of the game, and many of the ***more knowledgeable fans of the game would object***, but the majority of these additions would be completely optional to help ease fringe fans into the game."

                      This is for the guy who sees FIFA on the counter, remembers watching some games of the World Cup and being slightly amused.
                      Exactly, everyone above missed the point of the article here. It's suggestions to possibly build the market of FIFA customers in America and perhaps even coaxing a new fan of the sport or two into the fold. These are for Joe America who doesn't know much, if anything, about Soccer on a worldwide basis.
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                      • mjarz02
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 434

                        #12
                        I think adding more friendly/Arcade style game modes to Fifa might cause more American fans to buy FIFA but I believe the bigger piece is the education.

                        What formations work best for which types of teams would be great!

                        Also if they added a video on rivalries for each league would be very cool to watch. I know about the major rivalries but not much depth and videos would be a great addition!

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                        • Adzs K2
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 90

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mjarz02
                          I think adding more friendly/Arcade style game modes to Fifa might cause more American fans to buy FIFA but I believe the bigger piece is the education.

                          What formations work best for which types of teams would be great!

                          Also if they added a video on rivalries for each league would be very cool to watch. I know about the major rivalries but not much depth and videos would be a great addition!
                          If the game becomes more friendly/Arcade, i guarantee you a large chunk of players would go back to PES.....Pes was the game to play a few years back, then around fifa 08 many people switcehd games (including myself), but with how pes is looking for the average football fan, any let up in realism for an unwanted (by non americans) gameplay change would lead to another mass migration loool

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                          • Whitesox
                            Closet pyromaniac
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5287

                            #14
                            Re: Carraggi's Corner: FIFAmerica

                            Originally posted by MMChrisS
                            Exactly, everyone above missed the point of the article here. It's suggestions to possibly build the market of FIFA customers in America and perhaps even coaxing a new fan of the sport or two into the fold. These are for Joe America who doesn't know much, if anything, about Soccer on a worldwide basis.
                            I object for reasons other than you might think. How do they get the word about a 7 on 7 mode out there? They have to specifically advertise to American audiences. Not only is this taking away from marketing budget that could be used for features that appeal to much of their user base, but also consider the man hours put in to making this mode work. Contrast that with the amount of new players it brings to the game, and I believe you would find it an unfavorable business decision.

                            The same thing goes for marketing their explanation of the transfer system (this could be spread by word of mouth, it probably would take more time to write the text than it would to actually build the menu into the game.

                            What can they do for rivalry games? Bump up the sound and add a commentary line?

                            These features don't seem to me as feasible marketing options, which is why I object. Well, in addition to the fact that a 7 on 7 mode just sounds un fun to play.
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                            • CeltBhoy33
                              Love Celtic, Hate Racism
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1446

                              #15
                              How about this go buy FIFA street if you think soccer is boring or needs to be faster. FIFA shouldn't be based on Americans when the majority of the people who buy it are not American. In no way should there be 7 on 7 if you want to play that go buy a ball call up some lads and go play at there nearest pitch because that should not be in a game.
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