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  • blackceasar
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 3228

    #76
    Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

    I can't help but feel its a gimmick by EA to dumb down the game for the casual masses. Like I said in a post before, if you could Youtube or look up the commericals over the past 5-7 years they are always about new features/gimmicks EA has dumped into the game. You dont see commercials just about the game in general anymore. It's like Ian and the gang sit around in a board room every year and say "What 2-3 new gimmicks can we add to the game this upcoming year so we have a reason to make new commericals? These will be our new selling points". I honestly really feel this way. I think some of the crap they have put in OR changed in the game is just as much for selling points that can be talked about in commercials than anything else. Could you imagine a year where they actually really just fix everything thats broken and jacked up and gave everyone the Madden they really deserve? Good for us, but nothing to write home about for them.

    The public turns on the TV and sees a Madden 11 commercial "quicker, simpler, deeper" and it gets the lemmings out there all hyped up as if to say "OMG! Madden does it again! hellz yeah I cant wait for this game to come out" It's marketing. Marketing and $$$ are the reason why every year madden feels like a patch of the previous year. Now some years the patch is larger than other years, but it's still really a patch. Underneath it all its the same game engine, same graphics engine, same controls etc that just get tweaked and spruced up but they have never been torn down and rebuilt from scratch since next gen hit. They will tell you it has been in some years but the smarter people know better than this.

    Overall do I like Madden 11? Sure I do... its a fun NFL game...the ONLY NFL game. Do I feel like every year feels more like a super patch than a true evolution or revolution of gaming football? You bet. EA, you have a cute dog but for the most part he's been doing the same tricks since 2006. Sure you give him a trim here and there, a new cut, sometimes you spend a little time to get the wet dog smell off of him that the year before might have had but at the end of the day, it's still the same dog, but he's aging... and rather than give birth to a new puppy you try to get a few new tricks out of the current dog every year. I get that it's smart for your business and bottom line but don't BS the public. I mean the people that are truly important to you are still going to buy the game even if you're honest about it because they just want new rosters and the ability to throw 80 yard bombs from a 20 yard drop back all day online.
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    • Dog
      aka jnes12/JNes__
      • Aug 2008
      • 11846

      #77
      Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

      i think it could be the start of a revolution, but not right now
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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52874

        #78
        Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

        I didn't know about this feature going into it (didn't/don't pay attention to much to previews and all that) and turned it off almost immediately.

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        • simeoncam50
          Rookie
          • Sep 2008
          • 274

          #79
          Is gameflow a form of the NCAA version of family play? where the plays are picked for you and you just play. Maddens is spiced up a bit but is it not the same type of feature? I think it worksfor kids,my five year old played it well but for real gamers it is definitely a gimmick.

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          • MajorDutch
            Banned
            • Jul 2010
            • 55

            #80
            Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

            I think it may be a little bit of both.

            I think it's a neat feature for people that have been playing Madden for a long time, and it is something that newer players will use to get the hang of the game.

            I also think that since outside of visual changes, not much else was changed and they needed a new feature to pass off.

            Playing Gameflow with a headset on is pretty cool though.

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            • Apollo
              Rookie
              • Feb 2004
              • 140

              #81
              Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

              The problem is there is nothing to game plan for. All the defenses in Madden, in their current form, play similar. It does not matter what formation I call a running play from, no matter the down or distance, I will have some what of the same results.

              As far as game flow for kids, I purchased the WII version for my 5 yr old nephew. The first game he played, he hated having the plays called for him and we had to set it up so he can call his favorite run plays.

              If they had custom play books, like in past versions, you could set up plays you like to run and that would streamline the playbooks.

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              • johnprestonevans
                Pro
                • Oct 2008
                • 529

                #82
                I like Game Flow for the simple fact that it really cleans up and boosts the presentation of the game. Watching instant replays and those moments between the whistles is a big part of watching football. I like being able to take it all in - more like i do when watching the game on TV, but also having the ability to plan my games beforehand like they would do in real life. The option to call a specific play from the playbook is needed in certain situations and it's nice to have options.

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                • MajorDutch
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 55

                  #83
                  Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                  You guys should really try playing Gameflow with a headset, it really makes it more enjoyable and give it a more "in helmet" feel.

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                  • Exonerated
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4899

                    #84
                    Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                    Evolutionary

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                    • Nyghtwulf
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2

                      #85
                      Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                      I played with Gameflow on for the first half of my first game. Turned it off in the second half. I don't need the games to be played faster. When I sit down to play, I'm off work and ready to relax for a few hours.

                      This so called "feature" is fine for beginners, but I want control of the playcalling in all situations.

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                      • TalenT
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 713

                        #86
                        I think it depends on what point of view you like to play the game. If you're the coach/player type you'll want to pick your own plays but, if you wanna feel like you're a player and have the plays called in to you you'll play with gameflow. I see people saying it's basically just an advanced "Ask Madden". My thought on that is Ask Madden was the A.I. picking a random play from the playbook for you. Gameflow allows you to set up plays for a specific situation. So if a play is chosen that you don't think is a good choice...isn't that your fault?
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                        • BezO
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 4414

                          #87
                          Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                          I just thought about something. Maybe someone has already mentioned this. If so, my bad. But...

                          Game Flow is for casual fans & to speed up games. But the default game plans... well, they suck. You almost have to game plan if you're going to use Game Flow.

                          Casual Fans: If EA thinks they are not sophisticated enough to call their own plays, how they hell will they game plan?

                          Game Length: Yeah, the game is shortened by using Game Flow, but you have to spend all this time game planning. And EA made it as tedious as they could.
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                          • buzzguy
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 355

                            #88
                            Anything to speed-up the games while keeping it as realistic as possible.
                            I, for one, welcome our new gameflow overlords!

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                            • NoFear
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 147

                              #89
                              Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                              I definitely thought of it as a gimmick judging from the demo and have yet to use it...

                              When I do though, I'll certainly set up a Gameplan, because regular Gameflow is just like Ask Madden.

                              I think it would be revolutionary IF they added a Play Editor into it...

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                              • dsallupinyaarea
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2764

                                #90
                                Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

                                Gimmick. Hands down.
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