Madden NFL 11 Run Blocking Improvements Live Chat Transcript

[tlc12576]

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Sounds good. Dunno what all the fuss is about regarding the blocking vids though. Looked fine to me. People are getting over-analytical.

The funny thing is that some people will see a video with what they consider to be "problems" and think the final version will be that way.Then,some of the same people can see what they consider to be "improvements" and think that has nothing to do with the final version.

Consistency People! LOL

Before anyone gets their virtual knickers in a bunch,I wasn't refering to anyone in particular,just anyone who does this.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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The funny thing is that some people will see a video with what they consider to be "problems" and think the final version will be that way.Then,some of the same people can see what they consider to be "improvements" and think that has nothing to do with the final version.

Consistency People! LOL

Before anyone gets their virtual knickers in a bunch,I wasn't refering to anyone in particular,just anyone who does this.

That's why I feel that people need to keep a open mind until we get full videos of gameplay from E3 in a few weeks. Then start wondering what is what and so on. There is no reason right now to jump to conclusion when these are just clips we have seen so far.

[Badluck]

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That's why I feel that people need to keep a open mind until we get full videos of gameplay from E3 in a few weeks. Then start wondering what is what and so on. There is no reason right now to jump to conclusion when these are just clips we have seen so far.

while i agree like a previous poster said before we are always "just waiting"

[iBlievN5]

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i wish someone would've asked about an animation for blocking on the side and a defender purposely keeping their outside arm free

[Lava]

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I'm not going to base my opinion over a few clips of the run blocking that may are may not been played on pro are all pro.

It was clearly stated in the chat that the clips were taken on All-Pro. There's no "may or may not" about it.

[huskerwr38]

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If those run videos were made on All-Pro (as his answer seems to suggest), this game is in huge trouble.

People need to QUIT worrying, after this has been said many times.

Via Ian's twitter:

@SL504NYYNYG never satisfied huh? I wouldn't worry yet, those vids were vs. rookie mode defense to show good blocking easily

The answer that guy gave on the live chat did more harm than anything. But, WHY couldn't he just give a straight forward answer instead of a round about BS answer?

Anyways, the debate of what difficulty the defense was on needs to stop here. Because Ian answered it.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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People need to QUIT worrying, after this has been said many times.

Via Ian's twitter:


The answer that guy gave on the live chat did more harm than anything. But, WHY couldn't he just give a straight forward answer instead of a round about BS answer?

Anyways, the debate of what difficulty the defense was on needs to stop here. Because Ian answered it.

Honestly like I have been saying. I'm keeping a open mind on this subject on defense until E3. Then after that. It is a different story altogether. I ain't to worried right now.

[hatisback]

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People need to QUIT worrying, after this has been said many times.

Via Ian's twitter:


The answer that guy gave on the live chat did more harm than anything. But, WHY couldn't he just give a straight forward answer instead of a round about BS answer?

Anyways, the debate of what difficulty the defense was on needs to stop here. Because Ian answered it.

Do you believe everything Ian says? Not bashing or anything, but he said a lot of stuff about last year that wasnt the truth.

[Exonerated]

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Sounds good.

[tlc12576]

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It was clearly stated in the chat that the clips were taken on All-Pro. There's no "may or may not" about it.

LOL.I went back and read it just to be sure and he does clearly state that he recorded the videos during normal gameplay and he plays on All-pro.However,I dont think this means that the defense plays silly on all pro.

He could of been using Gameplan for the CPU or some other way of picking the defensive plays he ran against.If he selected a prevent defense or some sort of deep zone drop,I wouldnt expect the defenders to be as aggressive to the ball carrier.Before someone posts about how unrealisitic that is,they have to have some way to punish people for calling stupid defenses.

In the real NFL a defense can run a deep zone and still have defenders react to whatever is happening on the field.The offenses' run play still has an advantage because defenders are not in good starting position to stop the play.Blockers are able to get into optimal position and setup good lanes for the runner.Im not sure exactly why but in Madden defenders cover way to much field to fast.So,if they allowed these plays to develop naturally,even in a deep zone defenders would still end up in position to stop the run.So to simulate a poor defensive call against a run,Madden causes defenders to react slower when a play call should give the offense an advantage.

Notice he said when you call a draw play,the defense now reacts like it would if you called a pass play.Meaning to the defenders in Madden,it is a pass play so no defenders reacting to the handoff until the runner is at least right at the line of scrimmage.Probably be like with a QB scrambling behind the line of scrimmage and the defenders dont commit until he is at the line.

This makes sense to me considering this is a video game and I would think somethings might have to be done that dont replicate real life but get the same result.

I really just came to this conclusion from what I have read and seen so far about Madden 11.It is a good chance that I have absolutely no earthly idea why defenders react the way they do in Madden 11.So if that turns out to be the case,jokes on you for believing me.If I turn out to be right,then I told you so all along! LOL

[WildFireXXI]

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I'm trying to figure out if the people bashing because of the supposed difficulty are serious or just trolling. He ran those plays just to SHOW the improvements being done, he wasn't running against any kind of defense. For goodness sakes, the whole defense is playing ZONE, you can even SEE the linebacker and safeties drop back (playing far off the LoS in the first place), of course they're going to get run over. It wasn't a real gametime situation, it was a PRESENTATION.

Plus, did you people even account for the match-ups? I mean, if you think the Jaguars D-Line is going to be able to push back the Titans O-Line, or the Redskins D-Line going to push back the Giants O-Line. Oh and remember, the olines are basically only going to be blocking the front 4 because he has the entire defense playing ZONE, this is why they drop back first.

Here, go into Madden right now, chose a running team with a strong O-line and practice against a defense with a weaker O-Line running a 4-3 zone with the coverage back off the line and tell me the same thing doesn't happen. Rookie, Pro, All Pro or even All Madden it doesn't matter. If you put the defense at a disadvantage (such as going against a strong O-Line with LBs backed back in zones) then the run will always be successful. This even goes for real football

I swear people on this board over-analyze things too much.

[Exonerated]

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I'm trying to figure out if the people bashing because of the supposed difficulty are serious or just trolling. He ran those plays just to SHOW the improvements being done, he wasn't running against any kind of defense. For goodness sakes, the whole defense is playing ZONE, you can even SEE the linebacker and safeties drop back (playing far off the LoS in the first place), of course they're going to get run over. It wasn't a real gametime situation, it was a PRESENTATION.

Plus, did you people even account for the match-ups? I mean, if you think the Jaguars D-Line is going to be able to push back the Titans O-Line, or the Redskins D-Line going to push back the Giants O-Line. Oh and remember, the olines are basically only going to be blocking the front 4 because he has the entire defense playing ZONE, this is why they drop back first.

Here, go into Madden right now, chose a running team with a strong O-line and practice against a defense with a weaker O-Line running a 4-3 zone with the coverage back off the line and tell me the same thing doesn't happen. Rookie, Pro, All Pro or even All Madden it doesn't matter. If you put the defense at a disadvantage (such as going against a strong O-Line with LBs backed back in zones) then the run will always be successful. This even goes for real football

I swear people on this board over-analyze things too much.

If powering running against a weak 4 man front with lbs in zone isn't working then wouldn't there be actually something more wrong with Madden?

If the Jags front 4 is overpowering the Titan's front four, then thats not good. If the LB's are cheating on the run but designated in zone coverage, then thats not good either.

[WildFireXXI]

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If powering running against a weak 4 man front with lbs in zone isn't working then wouldn't there be actually something more wrong with Madden?

If the Jags front 4 is overpowering the Titan's front four, then thats not good. If the LB's are cheating on the run but designated in zone coverage, then thats not good either.

I'm glad there's someone else here who can actually rationally see what's going on.

Wait until some videos like Lions or Bills O-Line vs Ravens D-Line with Ngata and Cody are shown vs the run with a defense actually keyed to stop the run. If their O-lines are manhandling that big defensive front and those LBs aren't running free, then yes theres a problem. I don't expect that though.

[hatisback]

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I'm glad there's someone else here who can actually rationally see what's going on.

Wait until some videos like Lions or Bills O-Line vs Ravens D-Line with Ngata and Cody are shown vs the run with a defense actually keyed to stop the run. If their O-lines are manhandling that big defensive front and those LBs aren't running free, then yes theres a problem. I don't expect that though.

To add on to that, what about 3-4 defenses? I find it somewhat uneasy that all the videos are up against 4-3's where it is easier to designate running assignments. I dont expect improvement in that area of the game when you play against the Steelers, Ravens etc. this year.

[Exonerated]

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To add on to that, what about 3-4 defenses? I find it somewhat uneasy that all the videos are up against 4-3's where it is easier to designate running assignments. I dont expect improvement in that area of the game when you play against the Steelers, Ravens etc. this year.

Well, the ea dude said Kris Jenkins would definitely overpower weak linemen. But other than that, the 3-4 is till a mystery.