Madden NFL 11: Another Year Without Full Rosters?

[Jkgrindz]

Honestly this is not that big a deal to me. There are so many other issues that need to be addressed before 80 man rosters get added. Something tells me that if they were to add 80 man rosters it would open up a whole new can of worms knowing EA's track record.

[nuckles2k2]

I also think people tend to forget that you have to factor in the two different directions that Madden is going in since it made the jump to next gen. I know it's the norm to be impulsive and reactionary these days...but it's pretty clear that Madden had more of an arcade vibe going in Maddens 06-09, now we're striving for a more accurate representation of the NFL and Josh Looman is the man in charge of franchise mode.

I'm tired of seeing people just saying "Madden is this and Madden is that" as if the game some how spawns itself from some primordial ooze each year. There are people in charge of the game....different minds brings different views and that breeds different results. And we know who's in charge now and what their vision is (we saw the foundation last year.)

Since we haven't heard a single thing about franchise yet, and there's really no need for expanded rosters in the main menu of the game, I don't see how people can equate "I need to figure out the 53 man rosters here in May" with expanded rosters not being in.

I mean...even if we do have expanded rosters....how does that change Donnie's job? Doesn't he still have to figure out the 53 that's used for online games and the main menu's depth chart?

I don't get how people take 2 lines and extrapolate all sorts of info from it, and then start the "oh EA's gonna disappoint again" spiel with no real info.

[EAOS]

Quote: Originally Posted by nuckles2k2

"I need to figure out the 53 man rosters here in May" I don't get how people take 2 lines and extrapolate all sorts of info from it, and then start the "oh EA's gonna disappoint again" spiel with no real info.

It's called Track Record. And unless you've been living under a rock the last decade, EA's track record is similar to that of a moving or taxi cab company.

You can't put a lick of credibility into anything that company says.

[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vaporub83

Guys you gotta remember there has to be a 53 man roster for online play. so that doesn't mean anything

That doesn't effect franchise though.

One thing they really need to do is fix IR.

[Exonerated]

Quote: Originally Posted by EAOS

It's called Track Record. And unless you've been living under a rock the last decade, EA's track record is similar to that of a moving or taxi cab company. You can't put a lick of credibility into anything that company says.

Lucky EA is remaining tight-lipped this year. Only releasing information that is confirmed to be in the game.

A track record is past events that provide a barometer for the future. It shouldn't make us indict them before hearing what they have to offer.

[brza37]

Quote: Originally Posted by monkeybutlerz

I think most of us franchise guys would like to see full rosters, with practice squads, real IR and the ability to not be bogged down by the 53 man roster limit during the off-season (until the cut dates occur, of course). Donny Moore's Twitter seems to imply they'll be sticking with the basic 53 yet again this year. What are your thoughts?

This is disappointing. If 80 man rosters were in why would Donny need to complete a 53-man roster now? If 80 man rosters were in he'd be more focused on rating the 80 players per team and getting those rosters right before concentrating on 53 man rosters for online play.

[Feldman9000]

I'm almost convinced since EA hit a homerun last year with Madden, they're not really doing anything special to change it. The presenation remains untouched for some reason and I haven't seen a single video with Pro-tak. Taking out pro-tak is a giant leap in the wrong direction. Right now i'm looking forward to NCAA and not so much this and i buy this every year.

[nuckles2k2]

Quote: Originally Posted by EAOS

It's called Track Record. And unless you've been living under a rock the last decade, EA's track record is similar to that of a moving or taxi cab company. You can't put a lick of credibility into anything that company says.

Track records weigh more heavily when the same pieces are in place...in this case they're not.

You want track record?

Josh Looman worked on the last gen franchise mode (that a lot of us loved) and he worked on NFL Head Coach 09 (ridiculous franchise oriented game.)

Madden 06-09's franchise was headed up by someone other than Looman (if they even had a particular person designated to work on franchise...the staleness of the mode says Ortiz was ignoring it)

Madden 10 Looman is put in charge of the franchise mode, and while it's not perfect, we saw more attempts to fix the mode in one game than in the previous 4 combined: hand made draft classes to give you busts in the first round and gems later on, improved trade logic (still needs to be worked on, but it's better,) the weekly wrap up show, fixed a host of FA issues, and added the half sack and assisted tackle stats.

So far Josh Looman's track record looks pretty solid. I'll base my opinions on his work as opposed to his predecessors. What happened to Madden's franchise mode between 06 and 09 has nothing to do with the guy appointed to fix the mode beginning with Madden 10.

Or am I supposed to just look at the logo EA and start frothing at the mouth with hate? I know how to be fair and objective. Madden 06 through portions of 09, developed and produced under the watch and guidance of David Ortiz, were pure pieces of trash. I don't think I played any of them for more than a few weeks before they were listed on Amazon.com.

Madden 10 was an obvious improvement and if NFL HC 09 is any indication (which had expanded rosters), Looman knows what he's doing. I'll wait for him to prove me wrong before I bring the fire.