Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings

[LBzrule]

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Donny's system is messed up if it is based on 40 times. He's got to have better criteria. If you are going to use 40's use everyone's 40 time. Just looking at it. He has Myron Lewis who ran a 4.48 Official at his Pro Day with an 87 speed. But then has Arrelious Benn who ran a 4.54 official at his pro day with a 90 speed???????? Stuff like this is all over the place in his ratings.

They have Taylor Mays rated outrageous. That dude does not have great range yet in Madden he is super crazy.

[SouthernBrick]

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SPI = Spin Move I believe.

Ah...why didn't I think of that. Thanks for answering that.

It was getting on my nerves, I couldn't figure it out.

[mmorg]

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These ratings are all pretty ridiculous. Only one that should be above a 75 is Suh in my opinion and it still shouldn't be above 80. Another reason we need weekly progression and a rating system based on scouts/GMs which weigh stats heavier than actual player attributes.

[XXL78]

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the highest should be like 82-83 and the lowest in the first round should be like 73-75. there shouldnt be any 69-70 overall players in the first round especially if they got picked in the top ten

[T3B0W]

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the highest should be like 82-83 and the lowest in the first round should be like 73-75. there shouldnt be any 69-70 overall players in the first round especially if they got picked in the top ten

My bias aside, I don't disagree at this stage with Tebow at 70 despite being a first round pick. Most had him as a second or third round pick, if he fell there, there would be no disagreement.

[canes21]

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Wow, these are ridiculously high. i went to the link and did Sam Bradford to my liking. Came out as a 75 OVR, but I wanted to lower some things, but it wouldn't let me go lower. The highest rated player should be Suh at a 78.

[Afrikan]

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Donny's system is messed up if it is based on 40 times. He's got to have better criteria. If you are going to use 40's use everyone's 40 time. Just looking at it. He has Myron Lewis who ran a 4.48 Official at his Pro Day with an 87 speed. But then has Arrelious Benn who ran a 4.54 official at his pro day with a 90 speed???????? Stuff like this is all over the place in his ratings.

They have Taylor Mays rated outrageous. That dude does not have great range yet in Madden he is super crazy.

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[MaddenBalla]

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I just wish Donny did the ratings himself, he did a great job last year. Now we will be seeing Tim Tebow as the biggest threat in the game

[xblake16x]

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They're rating everyone really high. Wish they went the NBA route and made the rookies earn 80+ OVR ratings.

cant say it any better than this

[TomBrady]

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They're rating everyone really high. Wish they went the NBA route and made the rookies earn 80+ OVR ratings.

Basketball and football are two very different things. In basketball the difference between the best players and the medicore ones are often very notable. While in football the difference is no way close to being that big.

[babyfat9]

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No unproven rookie should be rated in the 80's!!!!!

[ImReady77]

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All i want to know is will the athletic rating differentiate between positions? Is a DT's ACC rating the same as a WR's?

[cubsball899]

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Basketball and football are two very different things. In basketball the difference between the best players and the medicore ones are often very notable. While in football the difference is no way close to being that big.

the difference between peyton manning and jay cutler isn't noticeable?
the difference between randy moss, and devin aromashodu? (i'm a bears fan stay with me)
the difference between darelle revis and charles tillman?

look the highest rookie should come in around the 75-77 range, most rooks in the later rounds shouldn't even see above the 50's, but in the first round if you draft a guy thats a 71 overall at a position of need that should be enough to start.... if the bears drafted a Receiver or an offensive lineman with that rating i'd be starting him because theres no way the bears currently have 3 receivers above a 71

70's should be the average starters in the NFL, with anybody above 80 bein a star...a rookie will have a few big games, and a few games where he disappears... performance like that should not warrant an 80+ rating

but i suppose the problem is in the entire ratings spread not just the rookies i mean seriously though, an 85 for suh and berry? pro bowlers already? sigh....

maybe they will at least get jake delhomme's rating right this year

[xblake16x]

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the difference between peyton manning and jay cutler isn't noticeable?
the difference between randy moss, and devin aromashodu? (i'm a bears fan stay with me)
the difference between darelle revis and charles tillman?

look the highest rookie should come in around the 75-77 range, most rooks in the later rounds shouldn't even see above the 50's, but in the first round if you draft a guy thats a 71 overall at a position of need that should be enough to start.... if the bears drafted a Receiver or an offensive lineman with that rating i'd be starting him because theres no way the bears currently have 3 receivers above a 71

70's should be the average starters in the NFL, with anybody above 80 bein a star...a rookie will have a few big games, and a few games where he disappears... performance like that should not warrant an 80+ rating

but i suppose the problem is in the entire ratings spread not just the rookies i mean seriously though, an 85 for suh and berry? pro bowlers already? sigh....

maybe they will at least get jake delhomme's rating right this year

I completely agree! There should be a great disparity between the better players and the not so great players, and you used some great examples with your team. They sort of tried last year, but failed with the sim engine...while 70 rated players were avg starters, if you simmed they were god awful because of the engine. If they altered the sim engine to where a (and these are just rough estimates with no research):

• 70 OVR HB would get 900 yds and a 3.7 YPC (Julius Jones)
• 70 OVR QB would have pretty close to the same amount of INTs as TDs (Matty H did have the same amount of INTs and TDs but he had one of the worst OL and systems so maybe this is Delhome here)
• 70 OVR receiver could reach 1000 yds if he was the number one guy (but still probably has alot of drops (not really sure how to explain this one maybe someone like Devery Henderson)
• OL would be serviceable, but they arent going to dominate the trenches for you (look at OL of 2009 Seahawks)
• DL same as OL, reach 7 sacks and mid 30 tackles (Look at DL of 2009 Seahawks)
• LB serviceable but wont be winning you a defensive player of the year (Na'il Diggs maybe)
• DBs will get beat sometimes but also be making some plays for you. (Kelly Jennings and Brian Russell)

Now i understand that a lot of these dont really work, but Im tired and its barely 8 AM...why am I even up?

And for a proper ratings spread to work I think progression needs to be revamped to the older legacy gen system

[GlennN]

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I really don't think -5 across the board is even enough but then again I think that all ratings should be much more spread out to where each individual rating takes into account the full 100 point range and overall ratings would take in atleast 80% of that. Also, I do not think overall ratings should be judged on a scale that goes above 100 like they currently are. I feel that ratings should go up to 100 just because from a computing standpoint that makes more sense but I also feel that to get a 100 overall a player should need a 100 in each rating applicable to his position or atleast enough that when weighted by importance of the rating it averages out to above a 99.5. Such an overall scale would really allow differentiation of the players and then if it was truly represented on the field it would make a much better overall game.

Yep, I agree. Need a wider spread to see differences.