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  • ch46647
    MVP
    • Aug 2006
    • 3510

    #16
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

    Rgiles, in the NCAA ign article the writer said hit stick effectiveness was tuned waaay down, to the point where he didnt remember connecting with one "hit stick" tackle.

    Can you comment on "hit stick" effectiveness? Will people finally use the regular tackle button instead of the hit stick vacume tackle we always get sucked into?

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    • LoostheMoos
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 67

      #17
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

      Wasn't this exact concept first in NFL2K5? I seem to remember a video with T.O. running on the field (just like those videos) and the game stringing together multiple right-stick moves, jukes, spins, etc.

      I have thought for YEARS that EA would be well-served to just simply steal all of the old features from 2K and throw them into their games, and it sure sounds like this is going to happen this year (ESPN in NCAA, this right stick moves in Madden and NCAA, etc.)

      Better half a decade late than never I guess, but PLEASE, don't call this "new"...the only thing "new" about it is the fact that its going to make Madden and NCAA play very differently for a few weeks to a month after release.

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      • SouthernBrick
        9.17.13
        • Mar 2009
        • 5831

        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

        Originally posted by mvb34
        Will we have dual control for defense or we gotta wait for Madden 12
        Yeah I could see it on the defensive side of the ball to. Especially with the new way of trucking players could also be used in a similar way for tackling. Instead of just flicking up and down the new lean system could maybe work in place of that. I think it could make bigger hits more difficult and give the player a better feeling of the missing risk/reward of trying to land a big blow.

        I don't know If It would work at all but, maybe something similar could be implemented for tackling.
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        • TreyIM2
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 1424

          #19
          FRESH! Ha. This was a bit more in depth than the Gamespot article, although this seemed to be missing vids, based on how the author kept speaking on vids to the right, which there were none.

          Either way, I look forward to getting my hands on the demo to really see what's what.
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          • Segagendude
            Banned
            • Aug 2008
            • 7940

            #20
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

            I remember a blog from last year showing player's emotions and how they look where the ball is.(Awareness)

            I was so pumped, but then barely saw a difference in the actual game.

            I hope this isn't going to be a repeat, because these running blogs look outstanding.

            Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just still optimistic, is all.

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            • ty5oke
              87%
              • Feb 2003
              • 2912

              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

              Pretty good blog done by EA. Kudos to them on that one.
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              • SouthernBrick
                9.17.13
                • Mar 2009
                • 5831

                #22
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                Originally posted by Segagendude
                I remember a blog from last year showing player's emotions and how they look where the ball is.(Awareness)

                I was so pumped, but then barely saw a difference in the actual game.

                I hope this isn't going to be a repeat, because these running blogs look outstanding.

                Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just still optimistic, is all.
                Exactly why I'm skeptical.

                They showed us these exact type vids last year that looked like improvement and the running looked nothing like they showed us once we saw and got the game in our hands. Hope they actually get it done right this time. First impressions count and hopefully they put out a good trailer to get some of my hopes up.
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                • lolfalconsbeatu
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 886

                  #23
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                  Im not gonna lie, I'm excited about this new running stuff. EA seems to really understand that 'Canned' animations should slowly be weaved out, and everything SHOULD be based on Physics, not just stuff that is "In the Game", so they just "Throw it in the video game".

                  Is the game perfect? Nah, but I can see the polish they are putting on this gameplay stuff. Loved the detail of the blog--and I especially love that technically they are not adding anything new, they are polishing stuff up.

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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #24
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                    I hate to be another Debbie Downer, and havent' watched the videos yet, but some of you guys bring up a great point, we get these videos every year and then the actual game doesn't have the stuff from the videos in it. I wonder if they create these videos with the intention of getting it into the game but then it just proves difficult and ends up cut a lot of the time.

                    So take these videos with a huge grain of salt. I'm talking like the grain of salt is like a big, white dining room table size of salt.
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                    • phant030
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1232

                      #25
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                      Good read. I hope the CPU uses these moves and controls.

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                      • SteelerSpartan
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 2884

                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

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                        • lolfalconsbeatu
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 886

                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          I hate to be another Debbie Downer, and havent' watched the videos yet, but some of you guys bring up a great point, we get these videos every year and then the actual game doesn't have the stuff from the videos in it. I wonder if they create these videos with the intention of getting it into the game but then it just proves difficult and ends up cut a lot of the time.

                          So take these videos with a huge grain of salt. I'm talking like the grain of salt is like a big, white dining room table size of salt.
                          I think the same things every time I watch these videos. The only thing that gets me with these, is that its something that the user actually HAS to control. I definitely understand you skepticism, but I mean, they officially got rid of certain 'canned' truck animations, by literally eliminating the capability on the controller. So these videos really hap me understand at least that I will definitely need to get use using 'Dual Stick Control', and how they do it.

                          As for if Locomotion will be fixed/foot planting and all that...although the videos look good, I'm gonna hold judgement.

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                          • blitzkrieger
                            Rookie
                            • May 2009
                            • 88

                            #28
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                            Well I was praying for improved running and for them to bring back the real juke move and it looks like they are getting there. I wouldnt say its Madden '04 reincarnate but its certainly a "juke" step in the right direction.

                            Great blog and I really appreciate the fact that the team is trying to get this right.

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                            • Valdarez
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5075

                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                              I like what I'm seeing thus far, but I want to see contact in the running game and coverage in the defensive game before I can say I'm honestly looking forward to it
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                              • XtremeDunkz
                                CNFL Commissioner
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3414

                                #30
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Dual Stick Control

                                Originally posted by ODogg
                                I hate to be another Debbie Downer, and havent' watched the videos yet, but some of you guys bring up a great point, we get these videos every year and then the actual game doesn't have the stuff from the videos in it. I wonder if they create these videos with the intention of getting it into the game but then it just proves difficult and ends up cut a lot of the time.

                                So take these videos with a huge grain of salt. I'm talking like the grain of salt is like a big, white dining room table size of salt.

                                yes i understand where you are coming from, that happened ALOT last year. But Ian came in quick this year and said that is exactly why they werent doing weekly blogs this year. Because last year they showed off things that werent implemented yet and they got burned for it. He said this year they weren't talking about anything until it was already working in the game.
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