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  • Russell_SCEA
    SCEA Community Manager
    • May 2005
    • 4161

    #121
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

    These are some of my favorite threads every year because we all get to debate on why so and so is rated this and that. It's all arbitrary and opinions when you think about it though (which is why I enjoy these threads so much), but for the sake of understanding I'm game lets dig a little deeper.

    The Cardinals batting being ranked 20th in the game, but before I talk about their rating let me shed some light on how the game determines this.

    1. It's an avg. of your starters and your bench and that's for your starting pitching and lineup. Kolbe gave me a number around 60% to 40% with your starters making up 60% of that rating.

    2. Player ratings are not done by human hands its all done by a program that looks at the players past three years with the most recent year weighing in the highest.

    Now that we have that out the way back to the Cardinals and this 20th batting ranking which made me scratch my head a little when I first saw it. As most of you and I'm guilty of this myself I think Pujols and Holliday that has to at least make them better than 20th. Not so fast

    The Mets are ranked 15th a good 5 spots ahead of them I've uploaded some pics to help make this easier.







    If you notice the Cardinals bench is relatively weak compared to the Mets. This is a very important factor in the Cardinals current 20th batting rating. For the sake of science I swaped F.Tatis for S.Robinson on these two teams and their ratings changed. That one player swap propelled the Cardinals to 13th overall in batting and dropped the Mets to 21st in batting. What you have to remember is your starting lineup is only half of the story (about 60% give or take) you have to take into consideration your bench and your bullpen for pitching. Hope this helps

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    Last edited by Russell_SCEA; 02-18-2010, 07:36 PM.

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    • EnigmaNemesis
      Animal Liberation
      • Apr 2006
      • 12216

      #122
      Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
      What you have to remember is your starting lineup is only have of the story (about 60% give or take) you have to take into consideration your bench and your bullpen for pitching. Hope this helps

      Discuss

      It helps immensely and I think is what we were trying to convey to some.
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      • DickDalewood

        #123
        Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

        Ugh... my Cubbies suck at defense. Ratings are right on, lol.

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        • DTX3
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2003
          • 13022

          #124
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

          Originally posted by Hitman3315
          As much as I love my Dodgers... 4th is pretty generous considering their quiet offseason.

          2nd in pitching? The bullpen is good, and some of the young arms have potential, but they definitely do not have one of the elite starting rotations in baseball (let alone a bona fide ace). Defense I agree with... batting sounds about right.

          Whatever though. Bring on the NL West in Franchise!
          Yeah, that's definitely something I'm trying to figure out myself. I guess Clayton Koufax is just that awesome.
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          • rbaker1979
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 133

            #125
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

            I didn't know the bench played such a large role in the ratings, so I can understand the surprisingly low rating now. The Cardinals do have a pretty weak bench.

            Thanks for the explanation

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            • Zorb
              Rookie
              • Feb 2009
              • 21

              #126
              Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
              If you notice the Cardinals bench is relatively weak compared to the Mets. This is a very important factor in the Cardinals current 20th batting rating. For the sake of science I swaped F.Tatis for S.Robinson on these two teams and their ratings changed. That one player swap propelled the Cardinals to 13th overall in batting and dropped the Mets to 21st in batting. What you have to remember is your starting lineup is only half of the story (about 60% give or take) you have to take into consideration your bench and your bullpen for pitching. Hope this helps

              Discuss
              Makes sense to me! and thanks for the reply!

              and the cubs are still overrated!
              Last edited by Zorb; 02-18-2010, 07:42 PM. Reason: forgot to slam the cubs!...me kant spel ether

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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #127
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                Originally posted by rbaker1979
                I didn't know the bench played such a large role in the ratings, so I can understand the surprisingly low rating now. The Cardinals do have a pretty weak bench.

                Thanks for the explanation
                I think that is what most are forgetting, and that their team does have a bench. And they do count, just as in real life.
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                • Jeffery 09
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 147

                  #128
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                  lol the voice of reason! Makes perfect sense

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                  • Joepman
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 207

                    #129
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                    I think that is what most are forgetting, and that their team does have a bench. And they do count, just as in real life.

                    I agree they matter. I'm not so sure about the weighting being 40% though.

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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #130
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                      Originally posted by Joepman
                      I agree they matter. I'm not so sure about the weighting being 40% though.

                      That is actually almost spot on if you see bench and bullpen contributions (playing time) throughout a full MLB season.
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                      • huggerorange73
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 636

                        #131
                        Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                        I can see all sides of the arguements presented here, and the logic of how it all adds up.

                        But still...I fail to see how the Cubs are rated as highly as they are.

                        And the White Sox pitching staff is way underrated...way underated
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                        • tabarnes19_SDS
                          Game Designer
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3084

                          #132
                          Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                          Russ,
                          Was this a manual lineup? Because if it wasn't SWEEEET!!! The LaRussa lineup is in with pitcher hitting 8th. I play as the Yankees, but I have never seen the pitcher hit 8th in Inter league play.

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                          • Russell_SCEA
                            SCEA Community Manager
                            • May 2005
                            • 4161

                            #133
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                            Originally posted by tabarnes19
                            Russ,
                            Was this a manual lineup? Because if it wasn't SWEEEET!!! The LaRussa lineup is in with pitcher hitting 8th. I play as the Yankees, but I have never seen the pitcher hit 8th in Inter league play.

                            It's the lineup the game is shipping with if that's what you are asking. I didn't move anyone around.

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                            • xNobleEaglex
                              Atlanta Black Sox
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 578

                              #134
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                              Makes sense. I'd put our starting rotation up against anyone's in the league easy. Bullpen is solid, with a few question marks here or there. Line-up has some question marks, but it's made up of 'solid run producers' from the last several years. And I'd put our bench up against anyone's. The 6th overall rating makes much more sense now. I hope they live up to that rating, because if they do, it could be a fun season irl and in the Show
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                              • omfgitsgod!
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 63

                                #135
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings

                                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                                These are some of my favorite threads every year because we all get to debate on why so and so is rated this and that. It's all arbitrary and opinions when you think about it though (which is why I enjoy these threads so much), but for the sake of understanding I'm game lets dig a little deeper.

                                The Cardinals batting being ranked 20th in the game, but before I talk about their rating let me shed some light on how the game determines this.

                                1. It's an avg. of your starters and your bench and that's for your starting pitching and lineup. Kolbe gave me a number around 60% to 40% with your starters making up 60% of that rating.

                                2. Player ratings are not done by human hands its all done by a program that looks at the players past three years with the most recent year weighing in the highest.

                                Now that we have that out the way back to the Cardinals and this 20th batting ranking which made me scratch my head a little when I first saw it. As most of you and I'm guilty of this myself I think Pujols and Holliday that has to at least make them better than 20th. Not so fast

                                The Mets are ranked 15th a good 5 spots ahead of them I've uploaded some pics to help make this easier.







                                If you notice the Cardinals bench is relatively weak compared to the Mets. This is a very important factor in the Cardinals current 20th batting rating. For the sake of science I swaped F.Tatis for S.Robinson on these two teams and their ratings changed. That one player swap propelled the Cardinals to 13th overall in batting and dropped the Mets to 21st in batting. What you have to remember is your starting lineup is only half of the story (about 60% give or take) you have to take into consideration your bench and your bullpen for pitching. Hope this helps

                                Discuss
                                Thanks for explaining it. Never thought about bench playing such a big role. 13 overall is perfect for St.Louis. Great job.

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