Not the Bottom of the Ninth, But a Big At-Bat Coming For MLB 2K10

[countryboy]

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This is the bed Take-2 made for themselves, when they chose to buy 2K Sports from SEGA. SEGA was so successful with 2k Sports because they threw their resources behind the developer & allowed the product to speak for itself.

Take-2 has done no such thing. What they did was try to MILK 2k Sports for their reputation as a very good development house, by short changing the developer, which in turn short changes the ability of 2K to market their product, which in turn causes games to hit market in not so great condition (Bugs, Glitches ETC, ETC, ETC...)

The only hope we have is Take-2 selling off 2k Sports to another publisher, who in turn gives 2k Sports the financial backing they would need to get back to creating some great sports titles

Very well said.

[PVarck31]

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While I agree that good games equal sales, it seems like Take-Two is trying to make money off of MLB 2k in every way but making it a good game. Reading between the lines tells me that they are not interested in making it a good game, only making money off it somehow.

[Pared]

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This completely false. MLB the show 09 has sold over a million copies. MLB 2k7 sold 800k. If a game is good. It will sell. The only reason why Sony isn't selling more is because not a lot of people have ps3. As the numbers keep going up on ps3 sales. You will see that MLB the show will sell like crazy. It's all about having a quality game.

According to VG Charts, if you compare 360 sales to PS3 sales, the numbers were actually very close, believe it or not.

I don't see one million, but it seems like PSP and PS2 sales still make up a huge portion of those sales.

IMO the key telling stat is PS3 sales here, where The Show outsold 2k by almost 4 times the amount of units.

[Jamin23]

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This completely false. MLB the show 09 has sold over a million copies. MLB 2k7 sold 800k. If a game is good. It will sell. The only reason why Sony isn't selling more is because not a lot of people have ps3. As the numbers keep going up on ps3 sales. You will see that MLB the show will sell like crazy. It's all about having a quality game.

Well I don't plan on getting a PS3 anytime soon no matter how bad of games 2k keeps on putting out. My 360 got the RROD the other day but it took about 4 years to do that. I love the 360 and plan on getting a new one not a PS3.

[StriderNo9]

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I am 100% no one at 2K has ever played baseball IRL ever. Other than programmers, they need to TAKE A YEAR OFF, come back with real designers and someone that's actually played baseball before.

[CarryTheWeight]

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The only hope we have is Take-2 selling off 2k Sports to another publisher, who in turn gives 2k Sports the financial backing they would need to get back to creating some great sports titles

I've been thinking about this idea as well. Imagine if Activision or UbiSoft decided to go into the sports gaming market and buy out 2K/Visual Concepts? It would be a huge move for the entire industry IMO...

...providing, of course, that Activision doesn't force VC/2K to design a plastic bat peripheral for their next baseball title... :P

[Pared]

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A buyout wouldn't mean anything. What did MS do with High Heat?

Exactly.

[Jamin23]

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A buyout wouldn't mean anything. What did MS do with High Heat?

Exactly.

They just desperately need competition.

[Artman22]

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According to VG Charts, if you compare 360 sales to PS3 sales, the numbers were actually very close, believe it or not.

I don't see one million, but it seems like PSP and PS2 sales still make up a huge portion of those sales.

IMO the key telling stat is PS3 sales here, where The Show outsold 2k by almost 4 times the amount of units.

The 360 numbers are from VG chartz, but keep in mind that these numbers were for mlb 2k7 on the 360 not counting the ps2,ps3,psp. The show numbers are from last years game which sold close to 700K only on the ps3. I'm sure that MLB the show 09 sold a lot more then that. Especially with the disapointment that 2k baseball has been, and the drop of price on the ps3..

[Artman22]

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Well I don't plan on getting a PS3 anytime soon no matter how bad of games 2k keeps on putting out. My 360 got the RROD the other day but it took about 4 years to do that. I love the 360 and plan on getting a new one not a PS3.

The comparisons I made had nothing to do with buying a ps3, it was showing you guys that mlb 2k7 sold the most out of all 2k baseball, and the reason was because it was the first time it was heading in the right direction. The analyist "Patcher is a fool and doesn't know what the HELL he's talking about. Saying that hockey games sell more then baseball games. The guy is always saying stupid S***. baseball games sell well when they are actually good games.

[Jamin23]

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The comparisons I made had nothing to do with buying a ps3, it was showing you guys that mlb 2k7 sold the most out of all 2k baseball, and the reason was because it was the first time it was heading in the right direction. The analyist "Patcher is a fool and doesn't know what the HELL he's talking about. Saying that hockey games sell more then baseball games. The guy is always saying stupid S***. baseball games sell well when they are actually good games.

Okay. I see what you're saying.

[dorismary]

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I feel alot of 2k problems especially with baseball was with mlb 2k7 and NHL 2k8 as they were so close and they just should have added on but every year was a new game with a new gimmic when it didnt have to go that way .

[JayhawkerStL]

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http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=30086

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=29990

Make of that what you will. But the "greatest sports game of all time" sold about 570K on the PS3. MLB 2K9 sold the same on the 360. Sure, then could invest millions more, but the market is just not there for baseball games when you factor in the increased cost 2K is paying.

Because of the crappy exclusivity deal they signed with MLB, which they should have known better, they are in a position in which they will lose money on their baseball games if they equal the sales of The Show.

No matter how much they spend and improve the game, they are not going eo sell more than 750-800K games. How much money can they spend to sell 200K more games?

I think the article makes it clear, that baseball was a bad bet by 2K. It was not worth the premium they paid.

I think this still means 2K screwed up,so I'm not sure why people are rejecting this so harshly.

[baa7]

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I'm not sure why people are rejecting this so harshly.

- 2K knowingly releases buggy, broken baseball and hockey games for four years.
- They ignore consumer complaints and fail to patch many of the issues.
- And now they say they never had the resources to put out the sort of product they wanted, due to the high cost of the MLB licence.

Let's say I manufacture an IPods. But because I had to pay Apple a huge fee in order to sell them, I don't have enough money left to put out a quality product. So I cut corners and use inferior parts. And I hire laborers who don't really know what they're doing, but they work cheap. And for four years I release this product and charge full price for it. Yet I don't say anything. In fact, I go out of my way to avoid taking responsibility. I don't acknowledge the constant and continual issues consumers have with my product. And I ignore consumer complaints, even though I'm fully aware these IPods I'm manufacturing continually break down and/or don't even work.

In essence T2-2K has been scamming the gaming public this whole time. And people react harshly when they feel they've been manipulated and deceived.

[jkra0512]

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In essence T2-2K has been scamming the gaming public this whole time. And people react harshly when they feel they've been manipulated and deceived.

I agreed with your post up until this point. It is still up to us consumers to make that decision to buy the product. It's up to us to see through the marketing crap, read the reviews, play the demos, and maybe rent the game before we make the purchase. We are just as much to blame for this because many people just blindly give their money to these corporations because they are the "only" baseball or football game out there.

You have to buy what you see not what you perceive. Just because they could patch something doesn't mean they will, and in many cases with 2k they don't. We need to stop buying 2k baseball if they aren't going to fix their mistakes year to year or with a patch, it's apparent they don't care about their customers or don't have the funds to dump into the game. So why buy the game when there is no support afterward?

Once we stop buying crap, then they either get rid of the game and we use that money towards something else or they re-evaluate and start catering the game to what we want, not what's easiest to market and sell.