NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable

**jyoung** · 09-30-2009, 06:53 PM

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable

The great thing about Live this year is how it actually punishes you for overdribblilng on All-Star difficulty and higher.

If you go around spamming the jukes, spins and crossovers, you will get ripped by the CPU or end up colliding with another player and losing the ball.

I also love how, if you try to go baseline and get cut off, you end up colliding with the CPU and lose the ball out of bounds. This is one of those cheese strategies that has worked way too well in all basketball games this generation, and it's awesome to finally see the baseline drive cheese go the way of the dinosaur.

As someone else mentioned, the best way to succeed on offense in Live is to run plays, and that is the first time I can truthfully say that about a basketball video game.

Hats off to the Live team for finally making a basketball game where the offense and defense are well-balanced instead of the glorified "HORSE" game we've been getting from both companies over the past couple of seasons.

**LAKE4742** · 09-30-2009, 07:00 PM

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AND, oops are even tough in this game, and really need proper timing. No cheese there, also.

The game may look cartoonish, but, there is a serious sim experience underneath it all.

**tcain80** · 09-30-2009, 07:13 PM

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Yeah, the only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the graphics. Though, it could just be the Lakers stadium because some of the videos I've seen look awesome.

**RayDog253** · 09-30-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by fjccommish

I think Live could benefit from a limited turbo like 2K10 has.

I disagree, because Live's momentum system really makes it hard to just run around all crazy in this game especially on defense. I had a play in the demo earlier where I tried to help off of Fish, they kicked it back to him, but I couldn't just turn on a dime and get back. My player had to pivot first and change his momentum so Fish ended up with a pretty clean shot(all while holding turbo).

**tabulaRasa** · 10-01-2009, 03:48 AM

"Overall, it’s a solid improvement, but like I say all the time, I’m a baller before a gamer. NBA Live 10, based on the demo, is a videogame first and a basketball game second."

My thoughts too.

**texasgmr** · 10-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Great job guys!

**Pared** · 10-01-2009, 04:32 PM

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Once again, a thread discussing one specific thing, in this instance the NBA Live demo, turns into a bash fest from both sides.

Post on the article, discussing the demo. Any posts off-topic will be deleted.

This thread is already a train wreck.

**jdareal21** · 10-02-2009, 06:55 AM

Personally, I like the way you initiate the post game, it just feels more natural, without having to press a button you can just slowly get into position and your player does his thing. I also prefer how the teams seem to run plays, that they really run, without me having to set it up

**jdareal21** · 10-02-2009, 06:58 AM

Live also has superior off ball movement, at least from what I've seen from the 2K videos. This all goes back to what I said above, the computer runs plays that the real teams do, with considerable fluidity

**loadleft** · 10-02-2009, 08:27 AM

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IMO, one loses credibility when they state things that are clearly not true to support their preference (I want say bias) from an opposing view. Like "Live depends on driving to the basket..." comment is one of them that sticks out. I would rather a person say: I really like 2K but will make my best attempt to be fair to Live even though it's most likely that my opinion will be skewed by preferences. That's why I can't play the 2K demo, because as soon as I turned it on I thought this looks like a Sega genesis game. The truth is it doesn't but through my Live colored glasses it does. I say all that to say that the guys that reviewed Live in this article all came across as guys that preferred 2K. A lot of their conclusions were in total opposition to what I thought were the non subjective aspects of Live (court spacing, driving to the basket, taking a break on D, etc.), so the article came across to me as more of a 2K guys opinion of Live.

I think we tend to build up a sense of reality based on what we see regularly then we deem that perspective reality and judge everything else by that perspective as to whether or not it's "realistic". If we could pull ourselves away from these games and use the NBA as the standard we would have some very different opinions on both games. As an experiment I've been asking people that are sports guys but that don't play video games to watch some of the video games and give me their impressions as to how they compare to real NBA B-Ball. I've found that they're opinions tend not to agree with the masses of gamers from either side.

I said all that to say these reviewers TO ME appear to simply prefer 2K, which I don't find anything wrong with that, but I wish they'd represented that so no one mistakes this for an unbiased review. Had they been truly unbiased the they would have stated things that are clearly untrue as being true. Just my 2 cents

**fjccommish** · 10-02-2009, 03:19 PM

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I see things I like and dislike in both games.

In Live it's nice that the CPU and player don't make all their shots.

It's nice that, in videos I've seen and the demo, guys like Kobe and Howard play like superstars. There have been some disturbing reports about guys like LBJ taking 2 shots in a half, but those who have the game early say superstars play like superstars.

I like that Beluba said the player lock will be fixed.

**RyDaddy215** · 10-03-2009, 01:56 PM

Live 10 will be the best Basketball Sim released to date ...period.

On Superstar setting, even vs the AI, the game feels like 100% pure authentic Basketball....not an arcade game or dunk fest like its competitor.

Live is about to take its crown back...worD to Mike Wang and co.

**Boilerbuzz** · 10-03-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by RyDaddy215

Live 10 will be the best Basketball Sim released to date ...period.

On Superstar setting, even vs the AI, the game feels like 100% pure authentic Basketball....not an arcade game or dunk fest like its competitor.

Live is about to take its crown back...worD to Mike Wang and co.

Wow. This is the second post I seen of you jocking Mike Wang in the last 30 minutes, dude. Give it a rest. I'm sure you'll find out that he was NOT the heart and soul of the 2K team. But don't let the truth get in your way.

But back to the TOPIC: As for the Live demo, I will say that I loved how dribbling around like an idiot is punished. I wished there was a more realistic way to do it instead of just losing it in open space, but as long as it helps balance gameplay, I'm more than cool with it. Some of the movement is heavy handed, in my opinion, but the animations look good and it helps it all FEEL right. The other thing I really like about Live is analog passing. That is nails.

**10yard-Fight** · 10-03-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by BrianFifaFan

Played Live up till NBA2k5.Had 2k every year since. Have had issues with the game since 2k7, Last year I hated 2k9, based on inexcusable framerate issues, even after the patch. Played the Live demo and it reminded me of 2k7, in the best ways possible. Have gotten into the game on All-Star with some minor slider tweaks. Game over, dropped my money on Live. Have no real beef with 2k, other than it is no longer fun to me. They can't add new tech, so they spend the cycle putting tweaking the same old game. Sure it has the patented, and possibly perfected, 2k gameplay, but the whole thing just feels stale to me. And the controls would have to be a big minus for me, as well.

... im almost in the same category except i started playing 2k when dreamcast came out. usually played both regularly until 2k5... thats when i switched to mainly 2k. i've always been waiting for live to take it back to the feeling it gave me when playing games like live 96 or even before that like lakers vs celtics or the bulls vs lakers/blazers years and this year although i haven't had the chance to play the 2k10 demo(ps3 user) i do own draft combine and judging that against live 10, im seriously thinking bout going with live this year do to the fact like a lot of others have stated, i feel much more in control of ball handling in live and that makes me think i may pick it up this year and when and if i get board with it, i'll just resume my nba2k9 dynasty. plus i like the fact live has the fiba championships. 2k10 may probably still be better than live 10 as far as "PURE video BASKETBALL" gaming goes, but im not sure its different enough for me to spend 60 hard earned bucks on when i can play and enjoy the 2k9 that i still own which feels very similiar to the draft combine which is based off of 2k10. my two cents. still undecided nevertheless

**toolified** · 10-03-2009, 10:54 PM

this year it's 2K that'll win out in the battle of b-ball games, but next year could be very tight in terms of gameplay if these roundtables are anything to go by. 2K's My Player mode, assuming that it's implemented well, is a big selling point this season, which definitely gives it a further edge over Live.

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