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  • RayDog253
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 984

    #1246
    Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

    Originally posted by Pared
    Yeah but it's not consistent. That's why I posted "hope the contact kicks in."

    There are times when you go up to the ball handler and just run next to him for a bit. Sometimes the contact animation triggers faster than others.
    I think it might have to do with defensive ratings, because it seems easier to do with Kobe and Artest.
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    • delilio
      Rookie
      • Sep 2009
      • 10

      #1247
      I just downloaded the game from the PSN, and i must say....

      GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT... that there is no post up button... entire control scheme i hope is very very customizable. Anyways, with that out of the way, how terrible is the game?

      What a game! First game i played on super star, lost 21 - 8. Those tendencies of forcing the ball to the paint will get u no where...so cheesers, whether u are kobe or spudd webb, u can't cheese in this game....in that sense. Regardless of what 2K put up, those cheesing tendencies will rule the day... 2k7 2k8 2k9...same engine, same cheesing moves.
      No matter what 2k put, im going with live this year and it can only get better so i guess i've played my last game of 2k

      Smoothness of the game, i'm really impressed. I was on the fence when i watched all those youtube user videos... player movement seemed jerky but why? well its how u play control and play the game. Off to my second run... still learning the controls...maybe i shouldnt learn them lol cuz the retail version has to be customizable.

      Fantastic game!

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      • lasthour
        Pro
        • Sep 2002
        • 621

        #1248
        Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

        Originally posted by bls
        You can body up on them on the perimeter Pared. You just gotta push the L stick in their direction and you'll body them up and slow down their progression and where there trying to go. You can't just football body them up 24/7 though, that's a foul. I love playing defense in this game, especially off ball cause you gotta be focused on the guy your guarding.

        And Evans, theirs different in the paint shooting contact animations as well.
        The defense is great the way it is. It feels authentic how you must guard someone now. Play team defense and take position away. The demo feels almost too good to be true. It actually feels like the better simmer will win in this one. Let us hope it is this way. We may have 2 great NBA games this year.
        What world do you live in?

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        • celg35
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 1329

          #1249
          Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

          Originally posted by delilio
          I just downloaded the game from the PSN, and i must say....

          GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT... that there is no post up button... entire control scheme i hope is very very customizable. Anyways, with that out of the way, how terrible is the game?

          What a game! First game i played on super star, lost 21 - 8. Those tendencies of forcing the ball to the paint will get u no where...so cheesers, whether u are kobe or spudd webb, u can't cheese in this game....in that sense. Regardless of what 2K put up, those cheesing tendencies will rule the day... 2k7 2k8 2k9...same engine, same cheesing moves.
          No matter what 2k put, im going with live this year and it can only get better so i guess i've played my last game of 2k

          Smoothness of the game, i'm really impressed. I was on the fence when i watched all those youtube user videos... player movement seemed jerky but why? well its how u play control and play the game. Off to my second run... still learning the controls...maybe i shouldnt learn them lol cuz the retail version has to be customizable.

          Fantastic game!
          i agree . i was a 2k fan , but live has an all new engine and graphics engine. I still am amazed at the movemengt and graphics. 2k looks the same as last year(not a bad thing) but live has to be the best looking sport game we might see this year.

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          • Yeah...THAT Guy
            Once in a Lifetime Memory
            • Dec 2006
            • 17291

            #1250
            Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

            Originally posted by celg35
            i agree . i was a 2k fan , but live has an all new engine and graphics engine. I still am amazed at the movemengt and graphics. 2k looks the same as last year(not a bad thing) but live has to be the best looking sport game we might see this year.
            I guess it's just my opinion then but I think 2k10 looks much better than Live to be honest. But yeah, I'm very impressed with the strides they've made.
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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #1251
              Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

              Originally posted by RayDog253
              I think it might have to do with defensive ratings, because it seems easier to do with Kobe and Artest.
              You could be right. I don't like that implementation, however.
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              • TreyIM2
                MVP
                • Apr 2009
                • 1424

                #1252
                Been playing the EU PSN demo off and on for about 4hrs (As always, I gotto the EU Store to get things earlier in the day on update day. I'm a USer.) and at first, I was thinking "Ok, this is a Live game...". Maybe it's just me but the controls were not difficult at all to get down because the basic movements with right joystick is still there from previous Lives or maybe it's just because they're very intuitive for me.

                That being said, I can't say if I'm impressed or not. I will say that I like what's there, for the most part. One thing that annoys me is sometimes passing on the move, unless your freestyle passing, it seems, the players, at time, pause before receiving the ball. That's an old Live issue that still needs to be resolved. I will go freestyle only, my next go round, to see if I may have to stick to freestyle passing, only.

                There are still issues with lack of responsiveness when pressing steal. Haven't noticed if rebounding button presses are still lacking, as well.

                I like the atmosphere, a lot. I felt like I was really playing a b-ball game I would normally be watching on TV. The sweat issue is still there. Seems like everybody sweating profusely ,too early. Not sure if I like the colorful look. I can see how some people would say it looks cartoonish but I'm used to the colors, already.

                I think I'll leave it there because I know it's not the finished product and there is a lot that I do like and a few other things I don't. Not to mention I wanna see the real effects DNA/365 has on the gameplay.
                Just cuz you pour syrup on ish....

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                • HMcCoy
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8212

                  #1253
                  Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  You could be right. I don't like that implementation, however.
                  It's a bit inconsistent, but I find i kinda like the fact that the CPU will punish you for not being in the right position. If you sag off on the weakside, then try to recover, you cant just run out and suddenly be stuck on the offensive player...if you don't recover with discipline you'll get blown by. Love that. I think the positional defense thing is cool...but I can see the new cheese are being the shake/bake and pull up game.

                  Cheese isn't just dunking. Cheese is exploiting a systems weakness repeatedly at the expense of realism. Casual players will figure out the new easiest way to score, and they will pound it down your sim throat. The midrange game and lack of consistent contact on the perimeter will definitely be cheese, and there will be lots of whine to go with it, lol.

                  Don't want cheese? Don't play cheesers. It won't be Live's fault...they've given folks a nifty offensive/defensive balance to work with if you choose, and it feels great.
                  Last edited by HMcCoy; 09-17-2009, 08:40 PM.
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                  • bls
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1786

                    #1254
                    Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                    I can honestly say I dont think the mid range game will be cheese either. Especially with the DNA.

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                    • HOLLIDAY1183
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 459

                      #1255
                      Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                      Originally posted by Jano
                      I have given up on playing as my lakers in the demo Lol.

                      On offense its just a nightmare every one of the Magic guards shuts my players down. Knocking balls loose and taking it coast to coast for some "awesome dunks." I can hardly get past these guys and when I do "The Enforcer" is waiting for me.

                      I literally give up on open drives to the basket when I see him around. If He even sniffs me coming in the in the paint he's either gettin a steal or blocking a shot its that simple.

                      And it doesn't even matter when he's matched up w/ a guard on the perimeter because as soon as I get by him he blocks me from behind. And if I try and kick out to the perimeter the guards are there to pick it off.

                      My post players don't fair any better because they can't get a shot over the top. If they beat him with a quick move he just blocks the shot from behind.

                      On defense it gets even worse because I get attacked from all sides now. Nelson and Lewis bomb 3's all day and I have no answer because my teammates never get out on them. Even when they do its to late the shot is already up.

                      Carter and Pietrus run the mid range game all day. They pop out from those screens and burn me all the time. When I stop them from hitting that they force the drive and 90% they get by me because "The Enforcer" is constantly setting moving screens.

                      Games where I address these guys is when "That Man" starts to eat up the boards. He gets so many dunks I don't even get angry any more I just accept I can't beat him.

                      Transition buckets are not even apart of my game because I can't get clean looks because of the speed demons. They become little enforcers waiting until the real one comes blazing down the court.

                      So thats my story I've just given up on playing w/ my favorite team. Maybe I'll see the "light" when I play the full game on the baseline cam.
                      LOL !!! Yo I laughed throughout reading this entire post. Dwight is a beast in here. LOL

                      And RayAP you right, it is SO ANNOYING to watch a ball get loose or knocked away from you, only to watch in horror as all the defenders are racing toward the ball and eventual fast break opportunity, all the while your players just go into "Pass That Piff Mode" like they so high they couldn't possibly care less about retaining possession!!! Fix this EA!!!
                      NOW PLAYING:
                      NBA 2K16, MGS5

                      WAITING FOR:
                      Fallout 4

                      Wife: "Of course he's going out to get his 2K game at 12am, like he can't wait til tomorrow."
                      Wife's mom: "Be grateful that's what he's running out at midnight for."

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                      • Jano
                        You Dead Wrong
                        • May 2004
                        • 3161

                        #1256
                        Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        I'm done with this demo until the full game is released I just can't stomach it anymore. I'm getting too frustrated playing it, I've concluded I plain suck at this game Lol.

                        I can't dribble anywhere without getting stripped, I can't make an open jumpshot for my life (I rarely get them anyway) and I'm terrible at finishing at the rim (Courtesy of "The Enforcers")

                        On Def I can't provide help D and I can't close out on shooters. I'm still going to give the full game a chance for some reason.

                        I see the potential in the game and I'm not going to give up on it until I've played the full version. I have this small glimmer of hope that something will click once I play the final version of the game.

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                        • TreyIM2
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1424

                          #1257
                          Just to point out to those not understanding why the ability to push up on defense is "inconsistent" - It all has to do with your pressure settings. If u leave it at game default, it's on Auto, which of course means that the CPU will choose the level of pressure as it see fit and on which player.
                          I set mine to Tight for everyone and I can always push up on D so that magic force field is no longer there.

                          That being said, I am getting more and more into the demo. I think the game could definitely use more animations in terms of some of the movement transitions but this still isn't the final product. Can't wait to see how it pans out.
                          Just cuz you pour syrup on ish....

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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #1258
                            Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            Originally posted by Jano
                            I'm done with this demo until the full game is released I just can't stomach it anymore. I'm getting too frustrated playing it, I've concluded I plain suck at this game Lol.

                            I can't dribble anywhere without getting stripped, I can't make an open jumpshot for my life (I rarely get them anyway) and I'm terrible at finishing at the rim (Courtesy of "The Enforcers")

                            On Def I can't provide help D and I can't close out on shooters. I'm still going to give the full game a chance for some reason.

                            I see the potential in the game and I'm not going to give up on it until I've played the full version. I have this small glimmer of hope that something will click once I play the final version of the game.
                            ....uuuuse thaaaaa pumpfaaaaake Luuuke....
                            Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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                            • Behindshadows
                              CEO - BSG Network
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 8053

                              #1259
                              Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              Originally posted by HMcCoy
                              ....uuuuse thaaaaa pumpfaaaaake Luuuke....
                              lol

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                              • Jano
                                You Dead Wrong
                                • May 2004
                                • 3161

                                #1260
                                Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                Originally posted by HMcCoy
                                ....uuuuse thaaaaa pumpfaaaaake Luuuke....
                                Lol you can't deceive "The Enforcer" and his Speed Demons with such simple tactics that's just crazy talk.

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