Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[AlexBrady]

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Why is Reggie Wayne so slow? 87 speed? that doesnt make any sense Reggie Wayne is FAST

No, he isn't very fast at all when compared to other receivers. He is good because he has a top 3 set of hands and he runs picture perfect routes.

[NavigatorD83]

something about Donny Moore just isnt right

[AlexBrady]

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something about Donny Moore just isnt right

Excuse me?

[Carolina Panthers]

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Steve smith @ 3 ...these are pretty good...Although i think deangelo williams is better than LT (Lol).

[Darkeus]

Man, yeah.. Matt Forte should be higher than Thomas Jones. TJ is no better than a 88 at best..

[likesbacon]

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lol at everyone pissed about their team's guy getting shafted. A little biased maybe?

[NavigatorD83]

I said Something about Donny Moore just isnt right

[Mr. Franchise]

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Please tell me who in the NFL is better than Brady, who has three Super Bowl rings (more than any quarterback currently playing by my recall), led the Pats to a perfect season in 2007, has the fourth-best quarterback rating amongst all active quarterbacks (behind Peyton, Romo, and Warner), has a 2.30 : 1 TD to INT ratio...

I could go on but Tom Brady's numbers and results speak for themselves and don't need my defense to stand up on their own. By no means is he "massively overrated" or even overrated. He and Peyton are unquestionably the top two quarterbacks in the league right now, and I don't see how an argument can be made otherwise.

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[nepatriotsfan]

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18-1

he's talking about the regular season

[kcarr]

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DAMN STEELER FANS!! LOL j/K

i guess some people haven't seen the lebron/kobe 3 ring commercial....

If we are going by number of rings then wouldn't horry be like the best basketball player in the last decade? Rings do not determine how good a player is and all these people who use championship rings to defend tom's extremely overrated throw power, wow,

[Glorious Arc]

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Steve smith @ 3 ...these are pretty good...Although i think deangelo williams is better than LT (Lol).

Not really. Williams as not really the best moves back(88-92) and I am almost positive they will overrate him to make his overall better(95+)

What makes him a good RB IRL is the fact that he has good balance and vision. Those are the key foundations of many HOF RBs(Barry Sanders, Emmit Smith, ect ect)He has ok hands and he is an ok blocker.

LT on the other hand should have his trucking lowered and carry raised(ten points). He has great moves in the open field and has a little less balance compared to Williams but he has better moves. He is an amazing catching back and he blocks well.

Physically speaking LT may be on the decline. He might not be. We wont know until the season starts. Williams and LT(when healthy) are about the same physically IMO. LT may be a bit faster in his prime but I am talking about more recent years.

[kcarr]

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And Brady has already proved that he can carry WRs like Branch, Patten, Brown, Stallworth, Gaffney, and Caldwell throughout his career and still put up all star numbers. As for Cassell, I'm going to hold off on making a statement on him - maybe he's the real deal - we'll just have to see this season if he is just a 'high school quarterback' or a legit #1 starter in the league.

Branch's best season with NE he averaged 62.4 YPG and had .3125 TDs per game. After he left his best season he had 60.1 ypg and .3636 TDs per game. His YPC were comparable both with NE and SEA.

Patten had a couple of 800 yard seasons in NE but also damn near had that with NO. He played his best seasons in NE but also those were the years where he was 27-30 and would have been in the prime of his career. He was decent there and had decent seasons elsewhere.

Brown was his best when brady was there but was primarly a returner before that and never played outside NE so it is tough to put up a real comparison.

Stallworth's best years were in NO and he also played better in philly than in NE. Sure he played poorly last year but he was banged up and playing with a hugely overrated qb who had half of a good season and was instantly expected to turn cleveland around.

Gaffney hasn't really been any better playing with tom than he had been playing with david carr in houston. He did have a few TDs in 07 but other than that was really better in houston.

Reche is actually the one decent example as he is the only one mentioned who had a solid year in NE and none elsewhere.

On the other hand before brady had moss he had never thrown more than 28 tds in a season and only once had topped 4000 yards. Also, he had never had better than 2:1 TD to int ratio before that, with moss and welker on the team it was 6.25:1. With the addition of moss there was a clear and consise improvement to brady's numbers.

Moss on the other hand before brady had 7 1000 yard seasons including one when he was playing so terribly in oakland, he had 3 above 1400 and one where he had more than his year with tom. He had also topped 15 tds 3 times and topped 10 6 times. He did have his most TDs with tom but other than that did not even have his best season.

Moss did more to help tom from a statistical standpoint that the other way around and as for tom making those receivers great, there were some of them who were slightly better with tom but most of it is just him being overhyped and people like you buying into it.

[kcarr]

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I just wished that bcv would carry more weight. if your running back doesn't have high rating he should have hard time with cutback lanes. same for punt and kick returners, wr ,te and some safeties.

as far as westbrook speed goes when he's not hurt their is dbs that can't cover him please. don't hate

I agree BCV and other skill and mental ratings need to have more impact.

As far as westbrook and people not being able to cover him that is not because of his speed but rather because of how quickly he can start and stop and how quickly he can reach that speed.

[Glorious Arc]

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Branch's best season with NE he averaged 62.4 YPG and had .3125 TDs per game. After he left his best season he had 60.1 ypg and .3636 TDs per game. His YPC were comparable both with NE and SEA.

Patten had a couple of 800 yard seasons in NE but also damn near had that with NO. He played his best seasons in NE but also those were the years where he was 27-30 and would have been in the prime of his career. He was decent there and had decent seasons elsewhere.

Brown was his best when brady was there but was primarly a returner before that and never played outside NE so it is tough to put up a real comparison.

Stallworth's best years were in NO and he also played better in philly than in NE. Sure he played poorly last year but he was banged up and playing with a hugely overrated qb who had half of a good season and was instantly expected to turn cleveland around.

Gaffney hasn't really been any better playing with tom than he had been playing with david carr in houston. He did have a few TDs in 07 but other than that was really better in houston.

Reche is actually the one decent example as he is the only one mentioned who had a solid year in NE and none elsewhere.

On the other hand before brady had moss he had never thrown more than 28 tds in a season and only once had topped 4000 yards. Also, he had never had better than 2:1 TD to int ratio before that, with moss and welker on the team it was 6.25:1. With the addition of moss there was a clear and consise improvement to brady's numbers.

Moss on the other hand before brady had 7 1000 yard seasons including one when he was playing so terribly in oakland, he had 3 above 1400 and one where he had more than his year with tom. He had also topped 15 tds 3 times and topped 10 6 times. He did have his most TDs with tom but other than that did not even have his best season.

Moss did more to help tom from a statistical standpoint that the other way around and as for tom making those receivers great, there were some of them who were slightly better with tom but most of it is just him being overhyped and people like you buying into it.

I like the stats that you brought up but even on both sides of the arguement it does not change one fact. Stats/wins do not equal a strong arm.(this goes for many overrated players that win/put up good numbers and all of sudden in madden have amazing attributes that arent how they play IRL.)

[kcarr]

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Calling all ratings guys we need some serious help here...

1) Tomlinson was hurt all year, he is not a 90 in spd- more like a 92
2) Rivers has a weak arm, but it ain't an 81- more like an 85

3) Terrell Owens can still run, he ain't a 89 in spd- needs to be a 93

4) Brady has a gun but Rothlisberger needs to be higher

5) Portis needs to be faster- more like a 92-93

I just see some wild stuff out there...

One thing that needs to be realized here is 88 or 89 speed is faster now than it was before. They redid the speed differentials to make speeds more realistic and although I don't remember the actual speeds there is actually now less difference between and 89 and a 99. What is an 89 now would probably be comparable to a 92 or 93 before.