Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Alright is rewatched the entire vid a few times and maybe I was a little too harsh. All im interested in is gameplay so I'll break down what I was looking for. On youtube there is a list of new gameplay fixes under the name EASPORTSRAC and I wanted to see those things in action so in no particular order...

1. Turn rates, players turn on a dime--after watching it a few times, this does look toned down and improved so +1

2. Route running, better mechanics--players did take steps before they broke and it did look more realistic so +1

3. Jostling wr/db interaction. Didnt really notice any jostling in these shots, someone please point it out if I missed it but for me -1

4. Procedural awareness, players looking back for the ball. On the td, the db never looked for the ball and the wr only looked over his wrong shoulder right as ball arrived. -1

5. FB dive fix/Spin animation fix. Didn't see it so its a wash.

Overall, rating the gameplay only-not as bad as I originally thought, and better than 09, but want to see more. Presentation- I liked the cut scenes, Romo on the phone in particular (the fumble pile not so much) but absolutely hated the announcer.

I think rewatching this vid with the sound off made a world of difference, that announcer reeks of 09 and kills what Madden 10 can accomplish. This game does seem to take huge steps in the right direction although I want to see some vids on all-pro or all-madden so I can really get an idea if man coverage has improved. The jury is still out for me once again.

[cdon2k]

Re: Running Animation Looking Better

Yeah, I noticed it in the game trailers video as well. Running looks at least as good as the PS2 version.

[jimbo1215]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

so the meter is still there? or can it be turned off in higher difficulties?

[ScoobySnax]

Re: Running Animation Looking Better

I agree. I think the animation looks better as well. Most of our OS brethren would say otherwise. I believe this is a very solid product we're going to get.

[Gossennator]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

The commentary made me want to bash my face into my desk.

The player movements looked really stiff and unrealistic.

And the way that pocket was forming..... it still appeared that you could drop back 30 yards and throw the bomb. Now I'm not saying you could, it just appeared that way.

Other than that it looked pretty damn solid.

You can do that in the NFL, its just if people choose to or not.

But I think the game looks great and the menus look real sharp too.

[Da Bears]

Re: Running Animation Looking Better

Looks good compared to the other vids we saw.

[johnprestonevans]

Re: Running Animation Looking Better

I like what I saw too. Good work on the animations.

[JBucc]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

This seems like an older build, or at least some stuff isn't implemented. I didn't see any depth of field effects, and there didn't seem to be much sound from the crowd or stadium. Presentation looks good, aside from Hammond as people have mentioned. Man he really drags it down, just terrible. The pocket is better than before but still sets up too slow. LOL @ whoever was controlling that CB. Otherwise gameplay looks solid at least, the TD pass catch looked good. Last year that would have been some horrible spin catch.

[TreyIM2]

Here is the official Madden 10 Co-op trailer. Personally, I'm cool on co-op. Not for me but I just enjoy watching any new Madden 10 footage over and over and over...and over...and...
Anyway, peep - http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-madden-nfl/49816?type=flv

[Moostache]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

That video confirmed 2 things to me - 1) the game is still Madden and still plays like Madden for better or worse (which is to be expected...the game sells MILLIONS of copies and only THOUSANDS of people ever care about the drivel we obsess on at places like OS and other forums) and 2) the presentation aspects that so many people "ooh'd" and "aww'd" about in 2K5 have been lifted whole cloth and dropped into Madden!

The first point - gameplaying like Madden - what did people HONESTLY expect to see, 2K8 in NFL uniforms? This is not ever going to happen! Madden is Madden and always will be...until we see real world momentum in the player's change of direction and user defined camera angles, the core game will LOOK the same all the time. I am becoming more and more convinced that until (or IF) the momentum issue is addressed, Madden will look the same no matter what they do with animations or blending technology or the rest of the game. This was true last gen and is true this gen and will be true in any future gen as well...

The second point - presentation being lifted from 2K5 - I was pretty surprised when I saw that. It was almost a carbon copy of the pre-game info/action shots of warm-ups in the old 2K game. I thought...well, when you can't beat 'em, at least join 'em.

All in all, the sideline scene with Romo on the headset was the most inspiring because it looked like Madden 10 IS using Head Coach 09 sideline assets (or something very close to it) for cut scenes and atmosphere...a good thing which should offer a lot of possibilities for the game. I just hope there is enough variety to keep it from getting too boring too fast...gotta figure that the game should have a MINIMUM of cut scenes to survive 80 games (4 complete seasons in Franchise including the pre-games) before the players start really noticing the repetitions.

I am not surprised in the least by the over-the-top freak out that this video produced around here...for weeks now people have been slowly losing their minds in the delusion that MADDEN NFL 10 was going to be NFL2K10 or something similar...it is like giving a hyper active child a candy bar and watching the sugar high become a sugar crash...

[Broncos86]

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This seems like an older build, or at least some stuff isn't implemented. I didn't see any depth of field effects, and there didn't seem to be much sound from the crowd or stadium. Presentation looks good, aside from Hammond as people have mentioned. Man he really drags it down, just terrible. The pocket is better than before but still sets up too slow. LOL @ whoever was controlling that CB. Otherwise gameplay looks solid at least, the TD pass catch looked good. Last year that would have been some horrible spin catch.

You, sir, are correct. This is an older build. Ian commented on such, saying he felt the video was outdated.

[SmokeCapone]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Dunno if this has been pointed out but the PHSYCIC AI is still in effect even though the balkl didnt even get released yet and the person attacking the INTENDED WR came from the opposite side of the field.

I think its at the 1:45 mark when they do the replay when Mcnabb gets sacked and who the open WR would have been, you would see the DB (i think) run across the field when #80 made his cut toward the endzone.

Everything else seemed ok except for the fact that Special Teams is still a WORK IN PROGRESS since it was not shown at all. And I hope that wasnt the case about that DB coming across the field to break up a play that never even got going due to a sack.

[NYG 5]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

then why was it shown if its outdated? it doesn't take long to record a game, cut some plays, and then send it over to IGN. its over the internet, its not like it had to be writted into a show like x play. it would take maybe2 days to get it done, and the video is said to be weeks old. so what the hell

[Yankees_CT]

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Wow, I can not believe some of the replies coming out of this thread. What happen to this community? I have been coming here for years because of the adult and mature dialogue that this site has become known for. I even, after a few years, finally decided to actually become a member of the community a couple of months ago but things like this are just a total turn off. We have a rare opportunity on this site to contribute our thoughts to the developers of the sports games that we love and for them to be treated like this is IMO, is unacceptable. There is constructive criticism and then there is what this Madden forum has become and it is not good. If this continues, this invaluable feedback we get to pass on to the developers will be gone and we'll be back in the dark. I for one, do not want that to happen. I want to see the likes of Russell (SCEA) and Ian to continue on the boards, let's not waste this opportunity.

Sorry, I just don't want to see this site go to waste.

Oh yeah......Go G-Men!!!

[Valdarez]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

1. Turn rates, players turn on a dime--after watching it a few times, this does look toned down and improved so +1

-1

Madden is Madden and always will be...until we see real world momentum in the player's change of direction and user defined camera angles, the core game will LOOK the same all the time. I am becoming more and more convinced that until (or IF) the momentum issue is addressed, Madden will look the same no matter what they do with animations or blending technology or the rest of the game. This was true last gen and is true this gen and will be true in any future gen as well...

I'm starting to come to the same conclusion, especially since Ian has not addressed my animation/rendering concerns. I just don't believe EA Sports / Madden team sees this as an issue or something to improve upon.

They did mention the locomotion / movement, so hopefully that's coming down the pipe next year, but looks like the animation/rendering is what it is, which is going on a decade behind other competitor's.