Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

I wonder where he is myself. I would laugh if he was number 9 on the list but still you would think he would be rated higher then a 97.

I think he lost 25 AWR points for refusing to go to the White House

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

The Steelers as I already posted have played 8 games against the top rated defenses including both best pass defense and the top ten for least points allowed per game. The steelers had no offensive line and no run game. The packers on the other hand. Played against 7 of the bottom 10 pass defenses and only played against 3 teams with top ten defenses. They had a decent running game and a better offensive line then the steelers.

Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

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Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

Fun fact: the 2008 Steelers played the second toughest schedule of any Superbowl winner.

Ask me who played THE toughest...

The 1979 Pittsburgh Steelers.

God I love being a fan of the Black and Gold.

[J Masta J]

Roddy White at 94 is a little outrageous...

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Ill give you the defenses they were facing. I gotta say tho the Rothlesberger had the advantage of playing for the team that was number 1 in passing defense itself and number 2 in rushing. Big Ben is a product a of good team, ala Trent Dilfer- I honestly believe that. Just go the NFL.com and click on passing stats, you'll find him halfway down the board in every stat.

Close, He was the second most sacked QB and he fumbled the most(Im joking with you but those are serious stats). I think the fact that Ben lead his team to more wins and the way he played are major pluses if you look at the environment he was in. Its also no small fact that Rogers inherited a growing strong young offense.

At this point I can only say that its a wait and see game coming this year. I also lean a bit more to Ben because he is a bit more experienced as a starter.

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Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Fun fact: the 2008 Steelers played the second toughest schedule of any Superbowl winner. Ask me who played THE toughest... The 1979 Pittsburgh Steelers. God I love being a fan of the Black and Gold.

Im not denying the Steelers were a great team last year. For that matter they were great when they won vs Seattle a few years ago. All I'm am saying is I think they were great the same way the 85 bears and the 2000 Ravens were. There are a dozen teams quarterbacks I think outperformed Big Ben.

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Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Im not denying the Steelers were a great team last year. For that matter they were great when they won vs Seattle a few years ago. All I'm am saying is I think they were great the same way the 85 bears and the 2000 Ravens were. There are a dozen teams quarterbacks I think outperformed Big Ben.

See, this is what I was on about earlier.

You subscribe to this myth that being a great system QB with huge stats makes you a great overall player. I disagree. Manning and Brady have time and time again PROVEN themselves to be physically incabable of making plays when the system breaks down. They curl up and take a sack or throw the ball away.

Roethlisberger makes plays when Manning or Brady would be sacked or give up on the play. That counts for something.

There is a game that is played between the hash marks that cannot be measured in statistics.

[UtahUtes32]

Quote: Originally Posted by CKW11

Wow Patrick Willis' speed is 90? I dont know much about the guy, does he really deserve 90 speed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3JTXupThgQ
tell me if he is.