Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

[STLRams]

Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

u guys seem to fail to get the point year in and year out

when was the last time u can look back at this series and see when the put a focus on defense


2k3???


2k4-no post game no defense

2k5-dunkin in traffic was redicoulos, it ruined the game

2k6-dunkin in traffic was bad, a contested shot and a open shot were the same result which meant it was probably going in

2k7- great at first, but as u played it u seen the terrible defense, and spacing issues

2k8-tried with the lock on system, but going in the post was a automatic dunk, and a few wiggles of iso motion and u were to the line in no time

2k9-well see thread starters post


so six years of complaing and basically defense has not been adressed

this is why i can appreciate the nba live series, they work on issues,

live 2003- too arcadey

live 2004- suffocating defense

live 2005-perfect

then 2k6-2k7 was awful but 08 seen a comeback, 09 seen a desecent playale and enoyable game

and live 2k10, with the way madden is going, i am sure u r going to see a awesome game


i want to be wary of tim duncan in the whole or garnett, if im kobe i want to know im playin a scrub or ron artest, i dont want to take mid range shots because im trying to play sim, i want to take them because this is a sim game.......

Good point about taking midrange because of the game being SIM, I hope 2K10 is like this. Then you would really get some good online and offline games.

[totalownership]

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This is the future I saw in this series back since 2K7. Slowly but surely this game was decaying right before our eyes. Things aren't right at all in this game. I was berated and called all out my name now people are seeing the light. First off the ratings are ridiculous. NFL 2K5 suffered the same problem but Performance EQ took care of that. Clutch completely skews the already ridiculous ratings and add to that the hidden "Team Clutch" (and there's no way on earth they can tell me that there isn't a clutch for each team) then absolutely destroys any chance of realism in this game. Before they address anything else those things definitely need to be addressed.

This game is nothing but a hyped stat engine and what you do doesn't really amount to a hill of beans. It's whatever the stats are and the CPU will FORCE that to be the outcome. 2K lost me it seems. They already lost me for baseball and now it seems they may lose me for basketball. It was a great run 2K but you killed it.

Neon's rosters is a good start, a very good start to put this game in the right direction. Tighten up the ridiculous defense , if you want to call it that. Stop making.... you know what, I'm not even going to write the laundry list of problems in this game. We all know them by now.

I've told people this before but nobody listens, if you want to TRULY judge a game and how good it is play with the worse and best teams in the game and then if you can see where the gameplay holds up then you have a good game. But if you see garbage then you have garbage.

[KG]

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That 2nd video is just ugly. Everything from seeing Shaq's moves to his double dribble, travel, and lack of pick & roll defense makes it just look horrible.

I agree with everyone's points about defense. I found that the only way I would get stops would be on blocks or steals.

Offensively the play calling system is outdated, sluggish, and just turrrrible. I cant understand why you need to be in a certain position to run a play and why in this day & age of point-forwards and more you need to initiate everything with the PG.

What I look for in all sports games are plays or series of events where I think to myself, "that could really happen". There were too many inconsistencies in this game for me to take the effort to really get back into it.

[texbuk84]

yeah like NBA LIVE 09 is any better. I play in leagues so we have rules and the game is awesome to me. jmo

[J.R. Locke]

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I want to know if these PC dudes are telling the truth when they say the game doesn't have the same issues. I don't see why it wouldn't to be honest.

Yea you can have modifications but I can't believe the PC version is that different

You would have to play it on PC with good specs to understand. I am playing on the same monitor I used to play the 360 version on and it is just different. Better different.

As far as the gameplay itself whether that is different. Well with Finn's editor and tweaks the game plays different and tweaking it is far more efficient.

It is still the same game but I would advise everyone on this board that spends an ungodly amount of time talking about this game that the best thing you can do is get the PC version and join in with the modding and tweaking. The cost of entry is steep ($800 for a PC to run the game) but you have so much more control.

[DC]

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Yea I know graphically it is an upgrade, btu I was talking about gameplay

[ronyell]

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an anonymous PM sent to me...

Yo homie whats going on I now remember why I kept away from the boards.....dudes are slamming on 2k9....jeez I actually like the game still and have alot of fun offline just playing with my brothers but coming here gets u jaded....

my response...

know right?! best game ever 2 me... i think people here are starting 2 get a bit picky & totally losing perspective

[Joey P]

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Right on!!

[Pared]

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I understand there are issues with the game. But I would also have to agree with the "everything is broken" mentality that permeates through the boards.

People make comments like the CPU AI never provides help defense and that is simply not true. Things can certainly be better and I'm sure there will be a lot of work put into 2k10 as a result... but the finite, definitive statements that get made at times here are severely over the top. It has become the basis of communication on the message boards at OS, sadly. People would rather talk about what they don't like... revel in each others misery... instead of enjoying what they can.

Some people complain the game is unrealistic... but then they are playing on HOF? Bueller... hello? Ever try lowering the difficulty?

Some of the comments here you'd think people have never played a sports video game in their entire life. It's not ideal but the standard some are expecting... certainly isn't level across the board with other titles.

[jyoung]

At the end of the day, when you play a basketball game that's claiming to be a simulation of the sport, you expect that the game will display some knowledge of the basic fundamentals of the sport with regards to the rules (traveling) and basic defensive strategy.

The NBA 2K series in its current state has zero understanding of those fundamentals.

Especially on the defensive end of the court, and especially with regards to the frequent traveling violations that occur from the multitude of sliding/warping animations that have become more prominent in the 2K9 version of the game than they were in 2K7/2K8.

[ronyell]

Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

At the end of the day, when you play a basketball game that's claiming to be a simulation of the sport, you expect that the game will display some knowledge of the basic fundamentals of the sport with regards to the rules (traveling) and basic defensive strategy.

The NBA 2K series in its current state has zero understanding of those fundamentals.

Especially on the defensive end of the court, and especially with regards to the frequent traveling violations that occur from the multitude of sliding/warping animations that have become more prominent in the 2K9 version of the game than they were in 2K7/2K8.

OMFG!


"2k has 0 understanding of basic basketball fundametals"

wtf?!?!!?!? THAT IS RIDICULOUS & IS THE EXACT EXTREME TYPE OF STATEMENTS THAT PARED IS TALKING ABOUT... HOW FUNNY SOME PEOPLE ARE

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

OMFG!


"2k has 0 understanding of basic basketball fundametals"

wtf?!?!!?!? THAT IS RIDICULOUS & IS THE EXACT EXTREME TYPE OF STATEMENTS THAT PARED IS TALKING ABOUT... HOW FUNNY SOME PEOPLE ARE

That one made me laugh. Pared just got through mentioning baseless over the top statements and almost immediately here comes someone and makes a baseless over the top statement. It's the state of OS now unfortunately, where people are unable to articulate a view unless it's at one extreme or the other

[Pared]

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Well, he wrote "those" fundamentals... and he has a point. There are some animations that result in a travel that does not get called.

IMO they are just animations that were missed.

His comment was over the top if we get into linguistics, but he does have a point if you look past it. I wouldn't quickly group his comments with those that I was referring to earlier...

[ronyell]

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i understand the traveling point but the "0 understanding"?... COME ON!

[DC]

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Disrespect for fundementals (basics/physics/logic)

1. Going for steals constantly doesn't fatigue a player quicker
2. Full court pressure doesn't fatigue players as they should
3. Crossing over constantly with non-ball handlers result in no penalty
4. Contesting shots usually have little to no affect on the probability of a shot going in.

I can go on.......