Madden NFL 09: First Online Leagues Details and Video Clip

[stmark]

maybe everyone will stop crying

[thmst30]

Early build for sure, BUT those animations still look just so stiff and awful, and the tackles are all the exact same crap from the last few years. Graphics are better, and I know EA said they weren't happy with the video either, so I will be awaiting those new videos.

[yvesdereuter]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

No, I get your point. I am guessing that you read only the 2k part of my post and then responded. As I said, some of us would like to discuss Madden(that means the good, the bad, and the ugly) without the same negative posts over and over again, especially the ones that keep referring to how 2k did this and 2k did that. Again, if it was 2k that was taking the criticism, the roles would be reversed.

Referring to 2K establishes that it can be done...it pre-empts the tired "its just a video game...no game is perfect" routine that madden apologists like to trot out there.

[kcxiv]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

No, I get your point. I am guessing that you read only the 2k part of my post and then responded. As I said, some of us would like to discuss Madden(that means the good, the bad, and the ugly) without the same negative posts over and over again, especially the ones that keep referring to how 2k did this and 2k did that. Again, if it was 2k that was taking the criticism, the roles would be reversed.

I know what your saying, but until a game can unseat NFL2k5, people are still going to compare the 2. 4 years later and still no NFL game can compete with it. People are just upset that 4 years later the game still isnt better.

Like i said, until a NFL game can be better then 2k5, its just always going to happen unless Operation Sports starts banning 50 percent of the football fans on this board and that probably wont happen.

[coogrfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by yvesdereuter

Yeah, it sounds so harmless and innocent until you realize how EA bullies positive reviews out of various websites by threatening to withhold the game. Plus theres often a variety of misinformation in various interviews where certain features will be in the game but arent. I mean if Joe Gamer saw an interview on June 1st about a feature that is supposed to be in the game only for it to eventually not be in, thats a swindle even if EA subsequently admits that feature wont be in, who is to say that Joe Gamer sees the subsequent interview. So theyre awfullly fast and loose with information,...and ultimately their ace in the hole is an overly generous software law that restricts returns. Thats a swindle.

Do you have any actual examples of these "promised features EA failed to deliver"?

[thmst30]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

Do you have any actual examples of these "promised features EA failed to deliver"?

For March Madness 05 I believe they had the whole Creation Zone feature (create teams and players in depth) listed as one of the major features for that year on their website. Then ONE week before the game released they took it off the site without saying a word, and it wasn't in the game and still isn't to this day. Thats one off the top of my head. Maybe the original poster has some more examples.

[noshun]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

Do you have any actual examples of these "promised features EA failed to deliver"?

I know NBA Live 06 was all about "foot planting, and head tracking", only for it to be nonexistant for next gen release. Also any promises of anything remotely good for Live 07, we all know how that turned out across all platform releases of that game. Those come to mind.

[bigwig]

Country, I know you get frustrated when people talk about 2k on madden forums but what other game can we compare it to? Ultimately thats my evaluation to go off of since it was the only other football genre created on next gen. We just need more competition so when you look at other companies innovating new ideas and setting new standards for new games. We need competition!