Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

[RaychelSnr]

Patrick Williams of Operation Sports wrote an article discussing why he is unhappy with Major League Baseball 2k8 and why he thinks a full refund is in order.

"As daylight savings kicks in and the snow begins to melt it's starting to become evident that spring is in the air. And what comes with spring? Baseball. Unfortunately being an XBOX 360 owner leaves me few options when it comes to choosing a baseball game. In fact it leaves me with just one option: MLB 2K8."

[bigfnjoe96]

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While I'll agree that the atmosphere is dull. The lighting engine makes things seem darker than they should. I'm gonna disagree on Player Models. 2K IMO got them correct this year. They are much more toned down then they were last year. They actually look much closer to their counter parts this year

[Amazin]

I have to disagree that the game is boring and dull. The new Total Control System makes the game a totally new experience from 2K7. If you want a good accurate game of baseball you have to put time into tweaking the sliders as well as other settings. Name a game, any sport, that plays correctly out of the box and please do not tell me The Show because I have it too and it has plenty of flaws which people seem to just bypass for some reason. After playing 2K8 and going back to The Show I find it very stiff and tedious to try and complete nine innings in The Show, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't really sound like you have put very much time or effort into 2K8 which is a shame. Have fun with GTA while I enjoy a great baseball season.

[MildlyPsycho]

Well said Patrick. This was a good read and you make very solid points.

[RandyMoss84]

boring and dull? i think that this game got the feel of baseball down the best, it may seem "boring or dull" to some people but to me this is what a baseball game should be like. Everything that i want to do i can with no problems, I think you guys need to not have such a negative outlook on the games, its better than last year for sure so if u played a whole season last year than what isn't there to like about playing another season with the improvements they added. Don't give me its just a roster update excuse there are countless improvements over last year, makes the game that much better.

"front end is lously and dull"
-what do you want them to do? i kind of like it with the player backgrounds and the player cards, it could be better (i loved ASB04s) but its not lously or dull

"still had to wait til opening day to until opening day to download an up to date roster"
-there was an update available right away that makes the rosters for sure playable and up to date, want more? than yes wait until MLB changes their rosters so 2k can come up with a new one

"commentary was exactly the same"
-jon miller & joe morgan last year is still better than any other baseball game commentary this year (and still better than a lot of other sports games) if i ain't broke don't fix it

"lineup card"
-yeah its small but u should be able to see it on 42" idk how u can't. sometimes i play on a 20 inch n i can use it. anyways u know which are ur players in and whats the dugout and when its zooms in u can easily read it, otherwise go to the pause menu

[DannyMac910]

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Wow, another rip on 2k8? Shame on OS again. This site is going down hill.

[Tomba]

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I have to disagree that the game is boring and dull. The new Total Control System makes the game a totally new experience from 2K7. If you want a good accurate game of baseball you have to put time into tweaking the sliders as well as other settings. Name a game, any sport, that plays correctly out of the box and please do not tell me The Show because I have it too and it has plenty of flaws which people seem to just bypass for some reason. After playing 2K8 and going back to The Show I find it very stiff and tedious to try and complete nine innings in The Show, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't really sound like you have put very much time or effort into 2K8 which is a shame. Have fun with GTA while I enjoy a great baseball season.

the amount of offline lag and choppiness is enough for anyone to not have any fun. owning a hdtv and this game is painful on the eyes...

[bigfnjoe96]

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Owning a hdtv and this game is painful on the eyes...

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[myghty]

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/agree

[maverick3176]

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Wow, another rip on 2k8? Shame on OS again. This site is going down hill.

Is it OS or is it 2K baseball...think about it. Why are they "picking on" this game.

The article hit on it so well. With all that he didnt even mention frame rate. But anyway, I dont think ANYONE should get their money back.

At this point 2K baseball makes bad game more consistly than good games., so anyone who bought it without getting a review or without reading the boards was foolish. You could smell this coming a mile away. That is why many paid $460 to have more choices

[awesomepatrol]

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It's hard to over-emphasize how terrible this game is. Here is some background from where I'm coming from: the only reason whatsoever that I have a console is because post-MVP '05, no more baseball games were made for the PC. I couldn't even get roster updates. And I must say, if I *could* get a roster update for that game, it would be hands down better than this piece of garbage.

So I started with 2k6, which was horrible. But they made some general improvements in 2k7, which made me mildly encouraged for 2k8. But wow, I've never seen such a regression in any sequel, let alone a sports game.

In a word, the game is unplayable. This is a ******* console; you shouldn't have to deal with a frame-rate that reduces the game to a literal slide-show at least 75% of the time. What's even more impressive is that despite the horrendous frame-rate -- and, yes, even with the so-called profile "fix" -- the graphics are somehow manifestly worse than 2k7. Even the menu system is blurry and unclear. I thought there might be something wrong with my monitor, but when I fired up NHL 08, all of a sudden all was right with the world -- and at smooth frame-rate to boot.

Honestly, I'd rather they cancelled this year's edition and released a roster update for 2k7 than have released this monstrosity.

[CS10029]

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Wow, another rip on 2k8? Shame on OS again. This site is going down hill.

While appreciate them doing an article. Its a little lame how much effort has been put towards bashing this game.

[boomhauertjs]

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It's hard to over-emphasize how terrible this game is. Here is some background from where I'm coming from: the only reason whatsoever that I have a console is because post-MVP '05, no more baseball games were made for the PC. I couldn't even get roster updates. And I must say, if I *could* get a roster update for that game, it would be hands down better than this piece of garbage.

Um, you can get roster updates for MVP '05 on the PC. Check out www.mvpmods.com.

[awesomepatrol]

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Um, you can get roster updates for MVP '05 on the PC. Check out www.mvpmods.com.

I did that for a while, and it was actually kind of cool. But it's an imperfect solution, particularly since it's mostly a hack of a game not designed for wide-spread user modification. On the other hand, it's better than 2k8k, so go figure.

[wsu_gb23]

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While appreciate them doing an article. Its a little lame how much effort has been put towards bashing this game.

The bashing is totally warranted with MLB 2K8... Bad commentary, terrible framerate, dull graphics; definitely a step back from 2K7....