Students really don't get that AI is often terribly wrong. They feel like they looked it up and should get credit for that.

No motive identified yet but regardless, some more votes for the Far Right party.


Wonder what set him off

Why would that mean more votes for the far right party? Running over innocent people is not popular.

Shocker but the guy turns out to be a far right shit head.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...-saudi-doctor/

Trump wants the Panama Canal back.

The guiding principle of the GOP is never getting over anything.

The Monroe Doctrine is back baby!

Heck, with talks of annexing Canada and Mexico, we are talking full on Manifest Destiny.

Don't stop at the canal, we demand ALL of PANAMA!

It was discovered that GOP House Rep Kay Granger has been living in a nursing home for people with dementia for the past 6 months.

The comments on social media about using the military to take it back are amazing. MAGA is the most shameless group of hypocrites that ever existed.

And he's now demanding Greenland.

Well from where else would you invade Iceland?

I prefer Greenland > Panama.

I googled on "is greenland happy to be part of denmark". Apparently, not so much. Buying Greenland is very unlikely, but a better approach is to try get an agreement with Denmark on some sort of joint exploration, development, military base, whatever etc.

Now, if I translate this over to Civ 6 ...

All that unexplored territory, like villages, move into the hex and get a surprise! Have to build up our "influence" over Greenland and then over time, Greenland will rebel and ask to join the US.

I'm sure there is a period of time where her diagnosis/recovery was in doubt so understandable no one disclosed then. But seems that she is firmly not capable and her condition should have been revealed.

I sure hope someone is held accountable (e.g. her chief of staff). I would like to better understand the timeline of events.

‘Missing’ GOP Congresswoman Not Seen For Six Months Finally Found Living at Dementia Care Home - WCBM TALKRADIO AM 680

Having dealt with both my father and my wife's father in this condition, once you go to a memory care center/nursing home the patient would be at a point where they would not be able to carry out basic daily functions or make any decisions.

Just like with Feinstein, this is grossly negligent and inexcusable. This is the exact reason we need age limits and required yearly exams that include cognitive tests. These people make decisions and cast votes that affect 330+ million, there should never be an excuse for this.

If she hit the point of going into a care home I'd say there's a strong liklihood that she knew while running for her last term. As you said, there's zero excuse for this.

At my work place if you do more than one no call/no show then you can get canned. Congress should be the same.

Can we get this on the ballot?!?!

Look, who among us hasn't dabbled in lite drug use and statutory rape. If that's enough to keep someone from being the Attorney General, then why even put the position on Indeed?

Gaetz Ethics report finds ‘substantial evidence’ of statutory rape, drug use

For all of you convinced people had to hold their nose and vote Harris because of positions in the NLRB, SEC, and FTC. Lucy pulled the football away from you again.




The me too movement has changed dramatically

Now it’s the answer to the question…

“Me too!”


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So Trump has 2 hotels in Panama that were busted for evading taxes and there's an ongoing lawsuit. That explains the Panama Canal stuff.

the panama and greenland stuff is just a thing to get you distracted from the other stuff that will be much more meaningful. The rest of this is just what the fuck ever kind of stuff. You think he's going to send the military to annex Greenland? Or the canal?

Nobody here said that. The argument was that Harris was better than Trump and that still stands.

He already made a call to annex Canada, so we're happy that he saw something new and shiny and has moved onto other things.

Nobody thinks that he'll actually do any of these things, as his 3am Truth Social rants are basically just garbage spewing from his mouth, giving credence to the saying that nothing good gets posted on social media after midnight.

The would-be US AG Gaetz tried to file an emergency suit to block the release of the House Report and didn't even know how to file it. The Clerk posted a note online that his suit would go nowhere until he corrected his errors. That's pretty funny.

Which makes a difference how? The majority of the country voted for Trump, not against the D's. One could argue it's good to see a D doing the "will of the people".

With the parties being virtually the same, according to you, I'm not even sure what the point of this whole thread is?

Before Trump won with a majority of the vote the left had an argument. But Trump did win with a majority despite all of the baggage that comes with him. The D's and the left need to rethink what they are trying to sell. Racism, misogyny, "it's all the white man's fault", and calling anyone that doesn't agree with you names, as their battle cry in a country where a woman has won the majority of the vote in a Presidential election and a black man was elected President isn't selling to most of the country.

A majority of voters picked someone other than Trump.

“I don’t want to hear any more complaints from you Blacks and women - this is as good as it’s going to get for you, so shut it.”

I said both parties have nearly the same economic positions. I was told that positions like these are where they differ. Turns out they don't.


Harris absolutely did not run on anything you're talking about here. The campaign was aimed at rich white suburbanites and she toured the country with Liz Cheney. This is just blaming minorities for the failings of your party and the decisions it made.

Travelled to see MIL who is living with a SIL. Her husband likes sports but during the down period he had NewsNation on continuously. This is my first time experiencing NewsNation and it's been a while since I've watched FoxNews.

I'd say NewsNation is better than FoxNews content wise. Whereas, FoxNews seems a bunch of opinions with stupid quips, NewsNation had more content and did longer features, albeit still with a right wing slant.

I put on my airpods and listened to music as I read or browsed to get away from it. I'd do the same if it was MSNBC all day long. My daughter is far more left than I am and proud that she avoided the family room and kept quiet.

Told the wife I would prefer not experiencing that again but unfortunately MIL is going to live with another SIL whose husband is also a NewsNation fan.

Still not a D, still not my party as I've already said directly to you.

Right, the parties are the same so what is the point of the thread?

As far as the original point it's till back one could argue a D did "the will of the people" based on how the country voted. I'm guessing if Harris had won with the same margins and a R had blocked a "Trump" person from being reconfirmed you'd be patting them on the back for their decision to do the will of the people and base it on Harris' mandate. The R's would complain about such a move by another R as you are complaining about Schiff.

Now if you are right and the parties are the same than good for Schiff standing up and saying it out loud.

I never said anything about Harris, I mentioned the D's and the left (that includes the far left crazies, more on that later). Her not trying to play the far left card out loud was one of her best choices and why I had some hope she might carry enough independents to win. Despite her not playing that card the stink still remained. For those D's that couldn't vote Harris because Cheney was on a stage with her trying to show not all R's were pro Trump MAGA ?(reading in more than that was silly) Well they got Trump instead. Well done far left D's. :lol: Again, looking at the latest election, mainstream folks in today's US are more scared of D's in general and their far left crazies than are afraid of Trump and MAGA even knowing exactly who Trump is.

Not blaming minorities at all, but of course that type of response is right in line with the name calling I mentioned in my last post, and trying to put someone that doesn't agree with you on the defensive. If they don't tow your line they must be bad.:eek: Nice try. :lol:

Great news guys! Ingles has a sale on sour cream and my Mom's never seen it this cheap and it's solely because Trump will be in office in a few weeks.

Big if true!

NewsNation is supposed to be more moderate than Fox. Overall they seem to be less negative on Trump than CNN or MSNBC without being full sycophants like Fox ore the more extreme Right wing options. Dan Abrams is a decent guy at least and does pretty well with legal analyst, but it is still not a station I'd want to constantly watch.

I look up Dan Abrams and this is the first thing I get

Dan Abrams To End His Primetime NewsNation Show

I just paid $3.59 for eggs today. I hope Trump can do something about that.

You absolutely did. You said the reason they lost was because they blamed white people for everything. Despite the fact the campaign did nothing of the sort and actually ran a campaign tailored to suburban white people (they even admit this!). Heck, they're carrying out an ethnic cleansing for white evangelicals.

It's the same dumb racist "minorities made white people vote for Trump" that has no basis in reality. Just an excuse for failure.

Thanks, made me research a little more. According to below, they are center (!)

Just a moment...


Okay, I have to do better in my grading and need to give them another shot. Maybe I'm the extremist amongst the 3 BIL :)


IRRC you didn't eat your collard greens + black eye peas on Jan 1. You only have yourself to blame

I haven't heard much about the ten freedom cities that are going to be built. Is that because we are just going to do a hostile takeover of Canada and Greenland?

A look at the Harris campaign site’s generalized platform mission statement, for what it’s worth, does not sustain such a strong characterization as that in bold above:

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Fine Edward, I got myself some collard greens and black eyed peas.

You happy now?

Bought some today also. It’s on you and me to make sure the S&P gains +20% for third year in a row!

Collard greens aren’t great by itself. Pro tip, cook some bacon or pork belly with it (and salt).

Pro Pro Tip: If they sell Glory collard greens at your store, they are already pre-seasoned and very tasty.


Edit: True of blackeyed peas, or really any other veggie as well. Best canned vegatables.

I'll second that. The Margaret Holmes brand isn't bad either, or at least their tomatoes and okra isn't.

I did my part. I choked down the collard greens and black eyed peas.

Does putting a green collar on my dog while listening to I gotta feeling count?

Me too. We got canned stuff this year, and I can honestly say fresh we had last year was much better.

You see what happens when you don’t eat it …

Republicans having another clown show of a speaker vote.

I've never heard of this collard green & black eye peas tradition before this thread and then I saw a local news story about it. We had pork and sauerkraut in the midwestern style.

I may have to try that Jan 1, 2026. Never heard of it before. Thanks for sharing

Ribs here, but based on the good midwest tradition.

Congrats Mikey.

How is it on the first ballot if people switched from their initial votes?

Off the top of my head, can't you change your vote up until it's "locked" (I can't think of the correct word for finalizing the vote but you know what I mean)

GOP trust in elections nearly tripled from October to December.

Republicans more confident in 2024 election accuracy after Trump win: AP-NORC poll | AP News

It’s a Christmas miracle.

Looks like the GOP has settled on having one bill with all the tax cuts and spending plans lumped together.

I'm so old I remember when long bills were the very heart of tyranny. You can't take any GOP argument seriously.

dola

Facebook has completely capitulated to Trump.


Really bad signs all around. The powerful are all bending the knee even before Trump demands it.

And they are doing away with moderation to be more like X. I didn't really doubt that business interest would bow to fascism as it has always done in history. It is the speed which is surprising.

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Let's be clear: Facebook hasn't wanted to do moderation since forever. This just gives them a golden opportunity to throw off those shackles and ignore any outrage. None of these social media owners give a fuck about what lies are peddled on their platforms, or the harm they cause, as long as the engagement numbers and advertising numbers keep coming.

dola - I'll bet the Founding Fathers never thought it would be the First Amendment that would be the downfall of their Republic.

How is that happening?

Who knew that getting an AUSTRIAN citizenship for my family was the parachute we’d need just in case… Austria.


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Austria? Well, then g’day mate! Let’s put another shrimp on the Barbie!

Bezos is offering 40 mil for the rights to Melania's story. Just astonishing how quickly the billionaires decided to start bribing Trump.

Trump's renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

And we get a reiteration that he wants Greenland, Panama, and thinks the border with Canada is "arbitrary" and we protect them anyway and economic force will bring them in as a 51st state.

Yes, a "blowing sunshine up their asses" documentary directed by some dude "cancelled" years back for sexual assaults, I believe.

It's all just bullshit bluster, but invading Greenland would also be an existential crisis for NATO. What happens when one NATO nation attacks another?

My #1 hope for the second Trump administration is that he spends all his time on these dementia-addled goose chases that nothing really gets done. Just 4 years of solid crisis mode.

I just want the stock market to go up. Can I at least have that?

He is going to set back trust in America for the rest of our lives and probably our kids lives.

I think everything that has taken place after WW2 did a good job of that.

It's not a distraction for him, it's a distraction for the news, and a distraction for the people. There's something else at play, like the legal avenues he is going to skirt to make something even more illegal happen that has me concerned.

Riiiiiiight. The pariah of the world. I remember reading about that for the last 50 years.

Correct. The play is "flood the zone with shit" and it works embarrassingly well.

It isn't the endless wars we've started, the millions of innocent civilains we've killed, the genocides and terrorists we've funded, or the countless coups we've fermented all in the name of propping up a few oligarchs. It's Donald Trump trolling people on his shitty social media app which will cause the world to lose trust in the great United States.

Up to that point, they had unwavering trust in the country run by a guy with dementia who is taking advice from his crackhead son.

I think it's that you're more willing to blame the US for all the ills of the world than any sort of nuanced point of view. It's all so simple for you. Having said that Don Jr clearly still has his fathers ear.

But it's incredibly bleak how the entire GOP is now gleefully talking about taking over other countries.

There's still no bottom.

Right. Who can forget the time Reagan threatened to take of Canada or Kennedy threatened to take over Greenland.

Reagan illegally sold weapons to Iran to fund terrorist groups so they could interfere in other sovereign countries. He also more or less created Al-Qaeda which I'm sure the world loves him for. Kennedy escalated in Vietnam which led to the slaughter of millions of innocent civilians.

Like I've been saying, it seems you're more concerned with optics instead of what people actually do. Don't agree with what Trump is doing but at the end of the day it's just trolling people he knows he can get riled up. Expect more now that he's defeated both parties and has kind of run out of enemies.

Actually, I'm pretty sure he is just showing countries being greedy for more land to help normalize his buddy Putin.

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Are we still doing the Russia thing 8 years later? Need something new and fresh.

Trump certainly isn't talking about Putin. He's talking about Greenland, about Mexico, about Canada, but he's strangely silent on his country's actual enemy.

He specifically mentioned wanting Greenland because of Russian ships and that being bad for us. Kinda surprised me, actually, which is why I remembered it from watching the news last night.

The only way to be tough on Russia is to launder billions of dollars to connected defense contractors at the expense of countless innocent lives.

I did find this pretty funny.

Canada Lawmaker Suggests Letting 3 US States Join, Get Free Health Care

The funny thing is that it's likely the only way the Democrats could take control of the Senate any time soon. Make each province a state. Would guarantee the House too. 40 million new residents who are used to national health care.

Why are Democrats angry about his plan again? And why do they think Republicans would actually want to do it?

So it's a "plan" now?

Didn't take the Dems 4 years to get on board either.

Lowering the costs of what - cruises in the Gulf of America?

This whole Gulf name issue did make me think - who has naming rights to bodies of water, and how hasn't a corporation approached the government about an official rights deal?

Gulf of America, powered by Facebook.

Or, what if the US renamed the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans as the Eastern Conference and Western Conference Bodies of Water brought to you by Deer Park?

I think a group in the Interior can change the name after they've spoken to all local governments involved. It happens regularly but not normally with something as big and notable as the Gulf of Mexico.

re: Greenland

Wiki has a summary of events/thoughts stretching back to Trump 1st term.

Proposals for the United States to purchase Greenland - Wikipedia.

Greatly simplified but from what I've read ...

1. Greenland wants to be independent from Denmark and is working towards that goal. There is some sort of understanding that Greenland is allowed to work towards independence, timeline is not well defined
2. Denmark is providing financial support/subsidies. Article hints that they are not providing too much (e.g. for airports, infrastructure) because they want to keep Greenland dependent on them
3. Greenlanders aren't that hot on Denmark either
4. Greenland has lots of natural resources (e.g. rare earth metals). They are also in a strategic location to monitor, stop etc. Russian/Chinese subs, ships etc.
5. Greenland doesn't want to be a US state but open to US investments and protection
6. Greenland will play the US interest against Denmark to see what she can get.

Still not sure how serious, serious Trump is but a scenario I can see playing out ...

I can't imagine the US militarily "invading" and occupying Greenland but can definitely see US "supporting" Greenlands independence (e.g. replacing Denmark's support/subsidies with US $) and helping push it through. Once, that is done, Greenland & US are free to negotiate more seriously. While Greenland remains an independent country, I can see the US becoming BFF with her.



FWIW, interesting thought exercise below on how much Greenland, if they sell, might sell for.

$42.6B is pretty cheap. But $533B to $1.7T seem more likely. For 57,000 Greenlanders ...

$42.6B / 57,000 = $747K
$533B / 57,000 = $9.3M
$1.7T / 57,000 = $29.8M

Yeah, if I lived in an independent Greenland, I'll take between $9.3M - $29.8M to be part of the US.

We just need to explain that we're here to liberate them from the evils of free Healthcare.

From what I’ve read, healthcare in Greenland isn’t all that great. Maybe a good compromise as part of the negotiations is insist US setup a Ramstein-like hospital and free access.

https://traveltrade.visitgreenland.c...nland-2024.pdf

What is the fascination with Greenland anyway besides someone explaining who Polk was to Trump?

How much would anyone bet that Trump would probably spell it Golf of America?

It's a land full of a GREEN!

I'd put halfway decent odds that he doesn't know Greenland is actually mostly covered in ice.

I bet Don Jr. knew that but thought it was a different kind...