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Passacaglia 06-13-2025 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3464607)
I would say 98% of the US is oblivious to the underlying sentiment in the lyrics of Born in the USA. And that's probably being charitable.


Whoops, got beat to it.

Ksyrup 06-13-2025 09:24 PM

A guy named James Donald Vance Jr was indicted for threatening to kill ... JD Vance.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 08:11 AM

Someone dressed as ICE has shot two different state legislators and their spouses in Minnesota. Names haven't been released and suspect is still at large.
https://www.fox9.com/news/brooklyn-p...onating-police


Edit: Names are released. Sen. John Hoffman and Rep Melissa Hortman

PilotMan 06-14-2025 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3464635)
A guy named James Donald Vance Jr was indicted for threatening to kill ... JD Vance.



I think it's very telling that you had this stuff going on nearly daily when Obama was president, and they always hid behind the first amendment. I think people like Ted Nugent would have been behind bars if you had someone try and emulate that in today's environment.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 09:53 AM

Rep. Hortman is dead. 4 others are injured.

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JPhillips 06-14-2025 09:55 AM

Worth noting that the MN House and Senate are basically evenly split.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 10:00 AM

Little more: He was not dressed as ICE but a regular police, in a police-like SUV with lights. He hit the Senator and his wife, and while police responded to that, they also went and checked on Rep. Hortman. The suspect was there, returned fire and ran. This whole thing is crazy.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 11:40 AM

trump may have well pulled the trigger himself.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464662)
Little more: He was not dressed as ICE but a regular police, in a police-like SUV with lights. He hit the Senator and his wife, and while police responded to that, they also went and checked on Rep. Hortman. The suspect was there, returned fire and ran. This whole thing is crazy.


That detail was the one that really had me scratching my head.

JPhillips 06-14-2025 12:22 PM

It's only a matter of time until a real cop is killed because of the way ICE is running around with masks and no identifying name tags.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:26 PM

If the shooting suspect being identified on social media is accurately named, then it appears that he runs a security service and that might explain the access to what appeared to be a patrol car.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 12:38 PM

Worth noting that the two legislators shot were among only a handful of (D) who joined with (R)s to pass a budget bill that strips state-funded healthcare from illegals immigrants.

(Hortman was the only (D) member of the house to do so)

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 01:05 PM

Over 70 names on his list. "The names included abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states, the official added."

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JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464671)
Over 70 nsmes on his list. "The names included abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states, the official added."


Nothing about this makes sense so far frankly, which is why I'm not inclined to draw any firm conclusions at this point.

Based on some of the stuff I've seen that the suspect appears to be connected to, there's a path that might connect the seemingly different dots but to travel it sort of requires a route like little Billy took to get the mail in the old Family Circus cartoons.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 01:59 PM

It is most likely going to follow the pattern most of these do. He is paramilitary, police wannabe, weird politics, and had some kind of break in his personal life. Snapped, and is going on spree.

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JPhillips 06-14-2025 02:00 PM

Yeah I've learned there isn't any point in trying to find rationality in a senseless act.

RainMaker 06-14-2025 02:05 PM

Seems like a pretty run of the mill right wing evangelical with Fox News brain. Unless there is some weird connection we don't know about, I don't think this one is hard to figure out. Its a political assassination to flip the MN House.

JonInMiddleGA 06-14-2025 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464675)
Seems like a pretty run of the mill right wing evangelical with Fox News brain. Unless there is some weird connection we don't know about, I don't think this one is hard to figure out. Its a political assassination to flip the MN House.


And a Walz political appointee, who wife appears to have interned for Walz about a decade ago.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 02:11 PM

trump has to pardon him, right? Like it's a requirement now.

PilotMan 06-14-2025 02:12 PM

In jon world, only one side of the political spectrum is allowed to exist. Those on the opposite side are silly for ever considering any sort of equal share.

GrantDawg 06-14-2025 02:12 PM

I'm tired of the "Trump pardon" thing. He is going to be up on state charges. Trump couldn't pardon him if he wanted to.

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Ryche 06-14-2025 02:51 PM

Solidly Democrat area, those seats won't be flipping. She did vote to stop allowing health care for illegal immigrants (children still covered) but she did that as the leader of the house as part of a compromise to pass the budget.

NobodyHere 06-14-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3464676)
And a Walz political appointee, who wife appears to have interned for Walz about a decade ago.


Apparently he didn't think well of Walz as Walz was on Vance Luther Boelter's hit list

JPhillips 06-14-2025 05:41 PM

Damn the military parade looks more like a small town Memorial Day parade. The bleachers in he shot I saw are almost entirely empty.

Atocep 06-14-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3464692)
Damn the military parade looks more like a small town Memorial Day parade. The bleachers in he shot I saw are almost entirely empty.



I told my wife it looks like a Kid Rock concert. I knew the crowd was small, but I wasn't ready for how small.

kingfc22 06-14-2025 06:51 PM

Should have held the parade in Florida or some Midwest MAGA farm if he wanted an audience.

RainMaker 06-14-2025 07:53 PM

lol

RainMaker 06-14-2025 09:14 PM


Passacaglia 06-14-2025 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464695)
lol


Giving "having a bake sale to buy a bomber" vibes

RainMaker 06-14-2025 10:52 PM

Two really funny things were them continuing to cut to aerial shots showing how pathetic the turnout was and all the sponsors. Hegseth needed to get up and say sponsored by Carl's Jr to complete the humiliation ritual.

JPhillips 06-15-2025 04:51 PM

Looks like Trump has effectively nationalized US Steel.

Good thing the communists didn't win the election.

RainMaker 06-15-2025 05:25 PM

Looks like there was a mass shooting attempt in Salt Lake City yesterday. Details are fuzzy but it sounds like a security guard shot the suspect when he pulled out his rifle but also hit an innocent bystander.

Two terrorist attacks in a day.

Ksyrup 06-15-2025 05:48 PM

I keep seeing video of a guy sneaking away with a shooting suspect's backpack because he saw a gun, preventing a possible mass shooting. I think that was in SLC. Not sure.

GrantDawg 06-15-2025 08:16 PM

The Senator and wife that survived the assassin's attack took a combined 17 bullets. The mom shielded their daughter from the rain of bullets. Amazing.

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GrantDawg 06-16-2025 01:44 AM

They caught the guy. I still haven't seen details other than he is in custody.

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Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464730)
Looks like there was a mass shooting attempt in Salt Lake City yesterday. Details are fuzzy but it sounds like a security guard shot the suspect when he pulled out his rifle but also hit an innocent bystander.

Two terrorist attacks in a day.


There also a couple instances of people driving cars through the protests. But Florida said that's fine so I guess we can't count that.

Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 06:03 AM

I think it's pretty clear the Trump and the people in his administration are actively pushing for a Civil War.


RainMaker 06-16-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464747)
They caught the guy. I still haven't seen details other than he is in custody.


He apparently went to 4 lawmakers homes but they weren't home. Pretty crazy stuff and meticulously planned.

Also found it odd that his wife was caught with passports, cash, and guns during a traffic stop. His brother and supposed co-worker at his security firm used to work for the FBI. Other than that, the gist seems to be he was a MAGA fanatic and Christian nationalist who had fallen on hard times.

miami_fan 06-16-2025 12:30 PM

‘Extremely disturbing and unethical’: new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats, unmarried veterans | Trump administration | The Guardian

Sure I guess.

Atocep 06-16-2025 01:29 PM

More ways for MAGA to spend their life savings propping up a billionaire, but the next time a dem is in office prices of everything will be a problem again.

reuters.com

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Donald Trump's family business licensed its name to launch a U.S. mobile service and a $499 smartphone on Monday, calling it Trump Mobile, in the latest deal brokered by the president's children to capitalize on his last name while he is in office.

RainMaker 06-16-2025 01:49 PM

There is no way these will be made in America.

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The announcement also promoted the launch of a "sleek, gold smartphone" that will be "designed and built in the United States."

Passacaglia 06-16-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464773)
There is no way these will be made in America.


Well, let's just say there won't be any tariffs paid on it.

Also...the phone doubles as the long awaited TrumpCare! Talk about burying the lede.

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"We are going to be introducing an entire package of products where people can come and they can get telemedicine on their phones for one flat monthly fee, roadside assistance on their cars, unlimited texting to 100 countries around the world," said the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.

Ghost Econ 06-16-2025 02:17 PM

That sounds a lot like socialism...

GrantDawg 06-16-2025 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464776)
That sounds a lot like socialism...

No, I'm sure they are going to make a huge profit and provide little to no service. That is classic late-stage capitalism.

RainMaker 06-16-2025 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3464774)
Well, let's just say there won't be any tariffs paid on it.

Also...the phone doubles as the long awaited TrumpCare! Talk about burying the lede.


Saved MAGA $350 if they want to buy direct.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807130553740.html

RainMaker 06-16-2025 03:54 PM

An insane deep dive into DOGE.
nytimes.com

Passacaglia 06-16-2025 08:29 PM

We talked about apartheid in Israel, but I guess it's headed here too..

‘Extremely disturbing and unethical’: new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats, unmarried veterans | Trump administration | The Guardian

RainMaker 06-17-2025 12:22 PM

nytimes.com

BYU 14 06-17-2025 12:27 PM

So what puts Israel in a position to pressure the US to do their bidding when they rely on us for most of their support?

RainMaker 06-17-2025 12:35 PM

The massive amounts of money they give to our politicians for the past few decades.


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