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RainMaker 06-09-2025 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3464404)
They helping Gavin Newsom rebuild his image that has taken a beating in the last couple of months.


It's so funny because Newsom blew up his 2028 chances over the past few months and if Trump does something like arrest him, he becomes the heavy favorite overnight.



Newsom has to be praying for this.

GrantDawg 06-09-2025 06:22 PM

Daring them.

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Mota 06-09-2025 07:47 PM

If this was the wrestling thread, we'd be talking about how the booker is doing a great job building up Newsom for a title run.

Ghost Econ 06-10-2025 08:02 AM

There's always a tweet


Atocep 06-10-2025 01:57 PM

Trump said he plans on effectively shutting FEMA down after this hurricane season. They plan giving the minimum amount of federal funding for disasters and expect states to take care of everything else. Considering the red states often hit by natural disasters are among the poorest in the country, this should go over really well.

Edward64 06-11-2025 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3464175)
Even more goodness.

I'm not sure who holds the better hand, I'm going to assume Trump who can hurt Musk's businesses a lot, but then does Musk care about $100B here or there? This will be fascinating as it plays out real-time.


I hope Trump continues to squeeze Musk in his business contracts, his business network, his personal life (denaturalization and then deportation!) etc. I think EV, solar, AI has plenty of other options but admittedly SpaceX is still a giant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/elon...-showdown.html
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“I regret some of my posts about President @realDonaldTrump last week. They went too far,” Musk said on the X social media platform.

Ghost Econ 06-11-2025 06:35 AM

Generally, the men who think masculinity is being destroyed are the weakest of them all.

Ghost Econ 06-11-2025 09:44 AM

Can someone with a business degree from Wharton please parse Trump's tweet about his latest "deal" announcement with China? It seems like what we had before, but with more tariffs.

BYU 14 06-11-2025 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3464454)
I hope Trump continues to squeeze Musk in his business contracts, his business network, his personal life (denaturalization and then deportation!) etc. I think EV, solar, AI has plenty of other options but admittedly SpaceX is still a giant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/elon...-showdown.html


Musk walking back his comments on Twitter, so the threat has likely already been relayed, fucking Clowns

Ghost Econ 06-11-2025 07:42 PM

Trump going to see Les Mis while sending troops into an American city is beyond parody

BishopMVP 06-11-2025 11:34 PM

This dude is making me ashamed to be white. Way to stand up against naming bases after Dwight D. Freaking Eisenhower you tool US Army to bring back names of 7 bases that once honored Confederate leaders | CNN Politics

JonInMiddleGA 06-12-2025 06:14 AM

The ... creativity ... inspired by having to find candidates with matching names.
{eyeroll}

Those of us who realize they never should have been changed in the first place can only mildly appreciate that they names at least sound right again, but at the same time we disgusted at the lack of judgement, character, or will to put them back to their rightful namesakes.

It's literally a "solution" that feels more like a hollow gesture than anything else.

Ghost Econ 06-12-2025 06:24 AM

Why would we want army bases named after losers? Do we name monuments after Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis?

JonInMiddleGA 06-12-2025 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464514)
Why would we want army bases named after losers? Do we name monuments after Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis?


Most were for specific battlefield acumen rather than outcomes. (I'd have to go through the list in detail to find the exceptions and let's face it, it's too fn early in the morning for that kinda detail work)

And we do have a certain tradition in the country for naming things after tragic figures.

HerRealName 06-12-2025 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3464515)
Most were for specific battlefield acumen rather than outcomes. (I'd have to go through the list in detail to find the exceptions and let's face it, it's too fn early in the morning for that kinda detail work)

And we do have a certain tradition in the country for naming things after tragic figures.


Yeah, right. The military acumen of Braxton Bragg :lol:

JonInMiddleGA 06-12-2025 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName (Post 3464516)
Yeah, right. The military acumen of Braxton Bragg :lol:


I said most ;)

edit to add: There's also Fort Polk, which was named in what feels like it had to be intentional shade. A man so inept on the battlefield that the Union shell that killed him was described as one of the most unfortunate -- for the North -- ever fired.

(He's considerably responsible for some of Bragg's worst moments, quite possibly intentionally)

Ghost Econ 06-12-2025 07:10 AM

It just seems odd we honor people who fought against the US under a different flag.

Of course, I also find it odd people are so upset about Columbus Day being changed when he literally never stepped foot in the (future) country. If anything it should be Ponce de Leon day, but I assume that name isn't Anglican enough.

HerRealName 06-12-2025 07:11 AM

Here are some more:

Pickett - famous for the horrible decision of REL on day 3 at Gettysburg but what isn't as well known is that he left his troops to attend a Shad bake at Petersburg. This directly led to the Union breakthrough at Petersburg.

Hood - Peter principle incarnate. Disastrous charge at Franklin led to the end of any significant Confederate presence in the West.

Gordon - nothing comes to mind other than his opposition to Reconstruction

Lee - Good at tactics, bad at strategy. Cruel slaveowner that watched as black people were stripped and beaten in front of him. After the brutal whipping (50 lashes), he ordered brine to be poured over the wounds to continue the torture. Fought in court to keep people enslaved that his wife inherited even though the will specified that they should be set free. I think he may have had a weird relationship with his daughters. Something is off there...

Polk - Horrible general in the West under the even worse general Bragg. They fought constantly and their inept leadership led to Rosecrans taking Chattanooga and Sherman taking Atlanta. Complete failure of a general.

AP Hill - Middling general at best. At least Stonewall Jackson had some success even if he was a total weirdo. Hill was just a douchebag with mediocre performance.

JonInMiddleGA 06-12-2025 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName (Post 3464520)


Polk - Horrible general in the West under the even worse general Bragg. They fought constantly and their inept leadership led to Rosecrans taking Chattanooga and Sherman taking Atlanta. Complete failure of a general.


I'd still probably argue that Polk was worse. One of President Davis worst errors was befriending this mfer.

Ghost Econ 06-12-2025 12:17 PM

A SC house rep was arrested for sharing kiddie porn. He used the name joebidennn69.

These people would be funny if they weren't so evil.

RainMaker 06-12-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464514)
Why would we want army bases named after losers? Do we name monuments after Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis?


Considering our lack of success in recent wars, it sort of seems fitting. Losing culture leads to losses.

It is still so funny to me that they named something after Bragg and Polk. Like that is shit you'd do as a prank. I thought even the South despised those guys. They used to think Polk was working secretly for the Union because he was so incompetent.

RainMaker 06-12-2025 01:10 PM

Anyone here with some legal background can answer this? My gut says that a pardon would just qualify for the crime that they were convicted of, not any other crimes that were discovered in the process of that. Or would it be part of that "fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine?


GrantDawg 06-12-2025 01:29 PM

Can you fix the link?


edit: Thanks

JPhillips 06-12-2025 02:01 PM

CA Sen Padilla was forcibly removed and arrested after showing up at a public press conference to ask Sec. Noem some questions.

Lathum 06-12-2025 02:05 PM

The footage is crazy and the GOP is full on defending it. We’ve gone completely authoritarian.

GrantDawg 06-12-2025 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3464533)
Anyone here with some legal background can answer this? My gut says that a pardon would just qualify for the crime that they were convicted of, not any other crimes that were discovered in the process of that. Or would it be part of that "fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine?

Not a lawyer, but I have watched a lot of Law and Order. :)
No, the pardon will not protect him here. The search warrant was legal at the time it was served. The pardon does not change that. Lots of chutzpah to try that, though.


flere-imsaho 06-12-2025 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3464515)
Most were for specific battlefield acumen rather than outcomes.


Whatever, they were literal traitors. We shouldn't be naming anything after literal traitors.

The almost-Union-equivalent would be renaming Atlanta "Granttown". Which, honestly, we should do, just to send a message to people who still claim the Confederacy as their "culture".

RainMaker 06-12-2025 03:00 PM

We're a few years out from breaking ground on Fort McVeigh

RainMaker 06-12-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464528)
A SC house rep was arrested for sharing kiddie porn. He used the name joebidennn69.

These people would be funny if they weren't so evil.



Checks out. These folks are a wee bit too invested in children's genitals. Now we know why.



GrantDawg 06-12-2025 04:51 PM

Judge Breyer (brother of former SCOTUS Steohen Breyer) just heard the case on the CA NG being nationalized. Considering how many times he compared the President's position on the case to that of a monarch, I don't think he is inclined to side with the government.

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Ghost Econ 06-12-2025 05:46 PM

How could Biden continue to let hard working immigrants be deported?


RainMaker 06-12-2025 06:14 PM

I know Biden was cooked mentally but there is really not enough attention being brought to the fact that Trump seems like he's on the same path. Listening to his posts and him talking, his mind is just mashed potatoes at this point.

BishopMVP 06-12-2025 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464556)
How could Biden continue to let hard working immigrants be deported?


I hate these criminals and killers who are FLOODING into our country and TAKING OUR $9/hour JOBS PICKING FRUITS AND VEGETABLES IN THE HEAT or working MOPPING FLOORS AND CLEANING BATHROOMS

GrantDawg 06-12-2025 08:02 PM

Judge Breyer does order the NG being returned to the Governor's command. Expect an immediate appeal.

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bronconick 06-12-2025 08:42 PM

Or just ignoring the ruling.

Ryche 06-12-2025 09:36 PM

Oh boy. Israel attacks Iran. Trump will be meeting with his National Security Council...at 11 am tomorrow

bhlloy 06-12-2025 10:02 PM

From ending the war in Ukraine in 24 hours to basically being told where to go by Israel as they start the biggest crisis in the middle east in a generation. Couldn't even give him the courtesy of finishing out his negotiations this weekend.

Mota 06-13-2025 10:20 AM

It seems like this presidency is going exactly how people feared it would go. This last week in particular seems to have taken a dark turn.

NobodyHere 06-13-2025 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryche (Post 3464579)
Oh boy. Israel attacks Iran. Trump will be meeting with his National Security Council...at 11 am tomorrow


Hope the weather is nice for their golf outing.

Ghost Econ 06-13-2025 11:30 AM

I finally came across on one those people. Was walking the dog and walked by a lady in a Mercedes blasting Killing in the Name of. After she passed I turned around and her car had a Trump sticker and a Thin Blue Line sticker.

Ksyrup 06-13-2025 11:39 AM

Fuck you just do what Trump tells you!

Lathum 06-13-2025 12:21 PM

I've seen a lot of people on Dropkick murphys boards lately be like "I love their music, just leave politics out of it"

See it with Bruce also (we are from the same home town so a lot of it comes from local groups)

It's like people don't listen to the lyrics.

BYU 14 06-13-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3464602)
I finally came across on one those people. Was walking the dog and walked by a lady in a Mercedes blasting Killing in the Name of. After she passed I turned around and her car had a Trump sticker and a Thin Blue Line sticker.


Oh to be that out of touch......Obviously her sugar daddy bought her the car.

RainMaker 06-13-2025 12:28 PM

Can't beat the Punisher logo with the blue lives matter flag.

Ksyrup 06-13-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3464604)
I've seen a lot of people on Dropkick murphys boards lately be like "I love their music, just leave politics out of it"

See it with Bruce also (we are from the same home town so a lot of it comes from local groups)

It's like people don't listen to the lyrics.


I would say 98% of the US is oblivious to the underlying sentiment in the lyrics of Born in the USA. And that's probably being charitable.

flere-imsaho 06-13-2025 12:37 PM

Fortunate Son is another good one.

Edit: Rockin' in the Free World

Lathum 06-13-2025 01:25 PM

DKM and Rise against both do awesome covers of Fortunate Son

flere-imsaho 06-13-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mota (Post 3464598)
It seems like this presidency is going exactly how people feared it would go. This last week in particular seems to have taken a dark turn.


The second post of this thread, which was from Edward, has a pretty good list of "hopes", which could be turned around into "fears", if you wanted. Or, at any rate, let's analyze:

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  1. Secure the borders and reform immigration
  2. Grow the economy & stock market
  3. Reduce the deficit & stabilize the debt, fix Social Security/Medicare
  4. Continue building & strengthening alliances in Asia, bring down the temperature in the region (e.g. Taiwan)
  5. Resolve the Ukrainian & ME wars
  6. Continue the Abraham accords progress and somehow, help/resolve the Iran issue
  7. Invest/bring strategic capabilities/assets into the US or allies (e.g. building TSMC plants, rare earth metals, oil etc.). Continue building out EVs & infrastructure
  8. Resolve the "culture wars"


1. There's no particular evidence that the borders are more secure than before, despite all the deportation activity. Legal tourism is down and bookings for the future are cratering, though, so that's great. And absolutely zero movement on reforming immigration.

2. Economy is shrinking, anything from another recession to stagflation is now a serious concern for this administration, especially when Powell's term is up. Stock market is OK for now.

3. LOL No, going in the opposite direction.

4. Trump managed to get countries in Asia to strengthen alliances with each other and with China which I'm not sure was the goal.

5. LOL No, going in the opposite direction.

6. LOL No, going in the opposite direction.

7. LOL No, going in the opposite direction.

8. LOL No, going in the opposite direction.

The Trump Administration is a failure for all Americans, save those few who just want to see other people hurt, billionaires, or those heavily invested in the defense industry.

RainMaker 06-13-2025 02:31 PM

Now lets see which members of Congress bought defense stocks a week ago.

Passacaglia 06-13-2025 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3464604)
I've seen a lot of people on Dropkick murphys boards lately be like "I love their music, just leave politics out of it"

See it with Bruce also (we are from the same home town so a lot of it comes from local groups)

It's like people don't listen to the lyrics.


I figure most people still don't know what Born in the USA is about. Probably people in your hometown are more likely to know it though.


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